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ORIGINAL: domiguy ...They are not protecting my freedoms or the American way of life.... I'd disagree here, DG. When they step up and put that uniform on, they're defending our freedoms. They never have to fire a weapon to do so. Level, I love you like a brother. A slow, Cowboy, Kevin Costner blowing brother, but a brother nonetheless. I got in more fights trying to protect you than I care to recall....Oh yeah, Mom never loved you. She said she could never bear the thought of breast feeding you....Cuz when you stared at her tits she said the whole thing just creeped her out. Anywhoooo.... The uniform does not make the man or the woman.....The action does....People's response to the call to arms is varied, some found the military as a court of last resorts, others got roped in by trying to find a career or pay for college...Others got duped under the patriotism of 9-11....And then there are those who find a military career to be a noble and courageous occupation. It is unfortunate that our current predicament in Iraq probably has little bearing at all on our freedoms at home....The lives lost there will turn out to be meaningless....There is no nobility or divine purpose in our being there. We as a Country have been misled and the lives and legs and arms and eyes of our men and women who have chosen to serve have been lost in vain. It is all such a damn shame. Our armed services are necessary, how they are to be utilized is ultimately how they as soldiers will be viewed. Not to become redundant, but I wonder if you could ask the Tillman's whether their son died protecting our freedoms... I wonder what their response might be? quote:
Suzanne said: I'm sorry Level, but aside from perhaps defending our "freedom" to keep wasting oil like it is in infinite supply, that statement is simple, feelgood, wishful delusion. These are honorable, brave and well-meaning young men and women, but if they are protecting anything other than Dick Cheney's deferred payments from his Halliburton stocks by being in Iraq, then I am really Queen Elizabeth of Windsor, finding an outlet for her unexplored fetishes here. Why is it so hard for Americans to realize when they've had their patriotism exploited by a corporate cartel looking to make money off of the blood and taxes of others? I guess it's like when it first dawns on you that your parents are flawed human beings rather than the godlike figures you imagined them to be. Hard, I know, but we all gotta grow up sometime. My statement was simple, in an effort to make my point, which I obviously didn't do. I'm not just talking about Iraq. If every man and woman wearing an American military uniform, in Iraq, in Germany, on submarines in the Pacific, in radar stations in Alaska, etc, took off those uniforms and went home, what would we be? Vulnerable. By virtue of every man and woman in the United States military putting on those uniforms, this nation is being defended. And for that, I'm grateful to them.
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