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In Need of a Little Guidance - 10/2/2007 7:44:15 PM   
Arastella


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Okay.  I've got a slightly complicated question.  I'm having some dramatic changes in my life.  For YEARS, due to a lot of really bad experiences, I've built up this wall for myself, I never let people in.  All of a sudden, within a matter of 1 or 2 weeks, that wall has been completely obliterated.  And I'm frightened.  Because, I'm happy, I'm enjoying all this, my guy says this is wonderful.  But shouldn't someone be afraid, or doubtful when a wall that took years to build has been crushed and you built it not to let people in, not to get hurt, and that wall comes down so suddenly and you're enjoying it?  Is that normal?  Has anyone else experienced anything similar?  Is it okay to feel good about something so extreme?
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RE: In Need of a Little Guidance - 10/2/2007 7:58:14 PM   
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If it's justified, then yes.

If it's a matter of a guy who just learned how to dig UNDER the wall and you being so needy for someone to finally honestly connect with you that you ignore the bad stuff- then no.

Time will tell, life will force you to go back and make up the steps you skip no matter how slow or fast you go, so for now I would say it simply is what it is.

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RE: In Need of a Little Guidance - 10/2/2007 8:12:54 PM   
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Life is not about living in fear of being hurt, life is not waiting for the other shoe to drop....always remember, you will be hurt and yes the other shoe will more than likely drop.....the difference is in how you deal with such when it happens..do you wall yourself back up, afraid to actually "live" and thus not really experience life in all its ups and downs and monotones?...Or do you lick your wounds,and go back out and try again?...as I have heard mentioned..one does not die with regret for things done ,but for those things one has not done...Tempting

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RE: In Need of a Little Guidance - 10/2/2007 9:04:35 PM   
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Taking chances is all about living and enjoying life.

Yes, I've been hurt in the past but what would I have learned if I took it back? I wouldn't be who I am today.

Ofcourse, being hurt again is a risk. However, you must always use your judgement when it comes to choosing if it's a risk worth taking. Just know that it's better to live than to hide under a rock for you entire life.

I personally believe that we should all live doing or alteast trying the things we like before we die. Atleast then, you'll know that you had a life and wasn't afraid to live.

Best wishes.

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RE: In Need of a Little Guidance - 10/2/2007 9:46:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Arastella

Okay.  I've got a slightly complicated question.  I'm having some dramatic changes in my life.  For YEARS, due to a lot of really bad experiences, I've built up this wall for myself, I never let people in.  All of a sudden, within a matter of 1 or 2 weeks, that wall has been completely obliterated.  And I'm frightened.  Because, I'm happy, I'm enjoying all this, my guy says this is wonderful.  But shouldn't someone be afraid, or doubtful when a wall that took years to build has been crushed and you built it not to let people in, not to get hurt, and that wall comes down so suddenly and you're enjoying it?  Is that normal?  Has anyone else experienced anything similar?  Is it okay to feel good about something so extreme?

Sorry, but I vote for listening to your head on this one.

I'll bet your "wall" dropped because you don't need it with this guy. I don't mean because he's so wonderful and caring. I mean because he has one, a wall so damn high and strong that you don't need yours. I'd guess you've found someone with whom you are just as much or even more protected from real emotional contact as you were before, only now the energy you used to invest in keeping your own wall up is available for you to enjoy.

That feels wonderful, of course, but magic it ain't.

Incidentally, I'll go further and guess that it feels like you do have real emotional contact with someone, maybe for the first time in forever. But if what I've said so far is right, that "someone" is you. One of the problems with walls is that they don't just wall us off from other people, they wall us off from ourselves. So you might care to contemplate what a damn nice person you've just met. 

K.



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RE: In Need of a Little Guidance - 10/2/2007 10:31:23 PM   
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I don't want to be quite as pessimistic as Kirata , but I'll agree with LA. Generally big things like that don't happen all at once, because they require change from inside you, not from someone you're in a relationship with. I'll say in my experience with people having "overnight" conversions of the kind you're talking about, it's often a sign they're getting played by someone who is very good at reading others and feeding back to them exactly what they want to hear/see/feel.

But hey, you're 20 -- don't get pregnant, an STD, or a tattoo, and you'll be fine. Just be aware that there are few shortcuts in life, and that your walls aren't protecting you from the bad people, only the good ones.

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RE: In Need of a Little Guidance - 10/3/2007 4:55:29 AM   
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RE: In Need of a Little Guidance - 10/3/2007 7:10:00 PM   
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Ok some of that helped a little but I still dont quite have it lol

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RE: In Need of a Little Guidance - 10/3/2007 9:20:30 PM   
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Well, if you need to drive to Austin and join my home for wayward subs, there's always a place.

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RE: In Need of a Little Guidance - 10/3/2007 11:58:01 PM   
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i too have been in your shoes... it is very scary to allow a person to come 'inside' due to the risks that come along with it. i think we, as women have a tendency to allow our emotions to get the best of us and that is something that only another woman could understand. i found that once i let my 'wall' down i found the most wonderful people in my life, not only in a relationship but friendships also.

it is hard to let go of the pain that someone has caused you by breaking you down, belittling you and disrespcting you as a human... but if you allow this to keep you from opening up your 'gate' to give another person a chance to fix what everyone else seems to have made so wrong, then how would you expect to find happiness in life? it is more than tough to say the least, i totally understand. i think that you should just open your heart and allow someone to heal the wounds that some jerk has left on it... if this man is not the one then in time you will find the right one.

always remember that happiness comes from within... you must be happy with yourself before you are able to make anyone else happy. it seems like a vicious circle, but if you do not allow yourself to risk things you are only sheltering yourself from the things that you need to know inorder to grow as a person. life is full of pain and suffering and it does not just go away! with experience one seems to overcome the 'small' things and move forward with their life... it is all a growing process and it seems almost impossible to not have to experience it!

good luck to you... i wish you all the best!


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RE: In Need of a Little Guidance - 10/4/2007 11:34:44 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: trusting

i too have been in your shoes... it is very scary to allow a person to come 'inside' due to the risks that come along with it. i think we, as women have a tendency to allow our emotions to get the best of us and that is something that only another woman could understand. i found that once i let my 'wall' down i found the most wonderful people in my life, not only in a relationship but friendships also.

it is hard to let go of the pain that someone has caused you by breaking you down, belittling you and disrespcting you as a human... but if you allow this to keep you from opening up your 'gate' to give another person a chance to fix what everyone else seems to have made so wrong, then how would you expect to find happiness in life? it is more than tough to say the least, i totally understand. i think that you should just open your heart and allow someone to heal the wounds that some jerk has left on it... if this man is not the one then in time you will find the right one.

always remember that happiness comes from within... you must be happy with yourself before you are able to make anyone else happy. it seems like a vicious circle, but if you do not allow yourself to risk things you are only sheltering yourself from the things that you need to know inorder to grow as a person. life is full of pain and suffering and it does not just go away! with experience one seems to overcome the 'small' things and move forward with their life... it is all a growing process and it seems almost impossible to not have to experience it!

good luck to you... i wish you all the best!

Thanks.  I gotta say that really did help, thanks very much.

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RE: In Need of a Little Guidance - 10/5/2007 5:28:31 PM   
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i built a wall around myself and it was there for 4 years. i met Sir and He slowly started to chip away at the wall after talking to Him for about 3 months. about 2 months ago the wall came down and W/we have been talking for over 8 months and will meet the end of the month. am i scared yes, do i have doubts yes, do i get upset and worried when things aren't the same everyday again yes. we are all human hun and yes it is ok to have these feelings. someone once told me to listen to my heart and if i would have done that i would have been hurt over and over and over again. a smart sub told me to listen to my gut and that is what i am listening to. listen to your gut and it will tell you if things are right or wrong.

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RE: In Need of a Little Guidance - 10/5/2007 7:31:24 PM   
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in reply to notsurebutsweet -- how did Sir chip away at your wall? did you ask him for help or is it something he decided needed to be done? i too have a wall built around my heart that took years to build and i don't know how to let someone in, how to break it down.........i have met someone on this site and he has told me he is now my Master and i am ready to accept that from him but at the same time i am afraid of being hurt..........i am exposing my feelings to him and on some level i pray that he will not hurt me like so many others before him because i think i could enjoy being collared by him

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RE: In Need of a Little Guidance - 10/6/2007 4:50:08 AM   
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Y'know, when I was growing up, we lived on a lake, so stuff like swimming and lots of games we could play on the water was a part of my life. Sometimes we swam in the lake. Sometimes we swam at a pool nearby. When we were at the pool, one of my favorite things to do was to jump off the high diving board. It was always so scary. You know how that feels? Your heart is in your throat the higher you climb. Once you're on that board, you look down and the water seems so far down. You worry that you'll have enough breath to be able to make the jump AND still come up for air.

There were so many times I'd climb all the way to the top of that board, and creep out in baby steps to the edge. Other people waiting their turn would be calling to me to jump JUMP! At first, and many many times, I'd creep to the edge of the board, only to lose my courage, get terribly frightened and turn around to climb back down the ladder. It never failed though. I'd get back down on solid ground and wish I was back up in the air. I'd be angry with myself for not having the courage to jump.

Finally, I simply got tired of being afraid. The day was hot, the water was blue and so cool and I was in the air again, creeping out to the edge of the diving board, my heart beating so hard I swore everyone could hear it. This time though, as I was creeping out there, I worked on remembering that I knew how to swim and that no matter what, I'd come to the surface. I looked down and saw the water below and took a deep breath and stepped off the board.

It was THE most thrilling thing I'd ever done. The whole way down, I was beyond scared. I was also so proud of myself that I'd finally overcome my fear. After I hit the water, and came back up, I was shouting and laughing and crying and bunches of other things. The lifeguard had to remind me to swim to the edge so that the next person could jump. So, I swam. I knew how. I knew I could save myself if I needed to and if I couldn't, no matter what, there were people there who would help. I ran back to the diving board to jump again.

Throughout the summer, I wanted to jump off of high places all the time. In my back yard, we had a boathouse. Some people have barns. We had a boathouse. It was as tall as a barn. The canal it overlooked was 12 feet deep. Eventually, either my brother, sister or myself got the wild idea that if we could jump off the high dive at the pool, what was so different with jumping off the boathouse roof. We spent the summer jumping.. and then holding hands with each other as we jumped, then jumping off with one of us on the shoulders of someone else, carwheels, anything we could think of, even eventually even riding small bicycles off the roof, their frames tied to our ankles like surfers tie their boards. We had a great time.

One time though, I jumped and landed in the water wrong. I got an earful of water and was in immense pain for days and days. To this day, I remember the feeling of that pain. For anyone who's ever had swimmer's ear, it's that magnified by 50 due to the pressure of hitting the water and its effects on my eardrum. It was horrible. I swore I'd never jump off the boathouse again. And I MEANT it.

Eventually though, in time, my ear stopped hurting. Eventually, without me realizing it was happening, I started to miss jumping off the boathouse and the high diving board. Eventually, when I was ready for it (and it wasn't something I could "do" to get there, it was just time that healed), I found myself climbing the ladder again.

I jumped off the board and the boathouse until I grew up and moved away. Jumping off the high diving board and that boathouse was probably the singularly most important lesson I ever learned about my life.

You can approach trust in baby steps. You can do so slowly and with great care. Eventually though, there comes a time when you finally have to just take that step off the edge. You have to decide that what you're doing is something you want far more than your fears and you have to jump.

When you jump, generally you're going to find that you're going to be ok. Sure you run risks. SURE you can be hurt, but the fact is, you have the resiliancy and the ability to take care of yourself. If things are really bad, generally there is someone nearby who can help you. And you're going to really be ok.

And if you DO get hurt, chances are there will be some time afterwards in which you're not going to want to put yourself in that situation again. That's a healthy reaction. However, as with most things. as you heal, you again find the courage to put yourself back into that same situation you were in before. This time though, you KNOW you have the resiliancy and ability to care for yourself. You have the strength to make it, no matter what is going to happen. ANd most of all, you can now remember and experience again, the thrill of being in that situation. You don't have to withhold that joy from your life again.

The walls we put up around ourselves serve purposes. They help us heal. But as with most things, we have some choices and some decisions to make. Sometimes, we don't even realize that we're going to have to make this decision. We can choose to hide forever behind our walls. We'll live our lives and seem perfectly fine, but we'll be missing the thrills we're protecting ourselves from. Or, when the time is right, even without realizing we're doing it, we can come out from behind our walls. We can climb the ladder again and we can look down to see the cool blue of the water and feel the joy that comes from having the confidence to jump in with both feet, confident that no matter what, we're going to be ok.

You're going to be ok - no matter if you get hurt again or not. You have the resiliancy, the strength and the ability to take care of yourself.

Enjoy the jump. Enjoy the ride. Enjoy your life.

juliet

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RE: In Need of a Little Guidance - 10/6/2007 5:45:19 PM   
Arastella


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Wow... that just helped things make a LOT more sense.  Thank you.  Thank you.
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ORIGINAL: julietsierra

Y'know, when I was growing up, we lived on a lake, so stuff like swimming and lots of games we could play on the water was a part of my life. Sometimes we swam in the lake. Sometimes we swam at a pool nearby. When we were at the pool, one of my favorite things to do was to jump off the high diving board. It was always so scary. You know how that feels? Your heart is in your throat the higher you climb. Once you're on that board, you look down and the water seems so far down. You worry that you'll have enough breath to be able to make the jump AND still come up for air.

There were so many times I'd climb all the way to the top of that board, and creep out in baby steps to the edge. Other people waiting their turn would be calling to me to jump JUMP! At first, and many many times, I'd creep to the edge of the board, only to lose my courage, get terribly frightened and turn around to climb back down the ladder. It never failed though. I'd get back down on solid ground and wish I was back up in the air. I'd be angry with myself for not having the courage to jump.

Finally, I simply got tired of being afraid. The day was hot, the water was blue and so cool and I was in the air again, creeping out to the edge of the diving board, my heart beating so hard I swore everyone could hear it. This time though, as I was creeping out there, I worked on remembering that I knew how to swim and that no matter what, I'd come to the surface. I looked down and saw the water below and took a deep breath and stepped off the board.

It was THE most thrilling thing I'd ever done. The whole way down, I was beyond scared. I was also so proud of myself that I'd finally overcome my fear. After I hit the water, and came back up, I was shouting and laughing and crying and bunches of other things. The lifeguard had to remind me to swim to the edge so that the next person could jump. So, I swam. I knew how. I knew I could save myself if I needed to and if I couldn't, no matter what, there were people there who would help. I ran back to the diving board to jump again.

Throughout the summer, I wanted to jump off of high places all the time. In my back yard, we had a boathouse. Some people have barns. We had a boathouse. It was as tall as a barn. The canal it overlooked was 12 feet deep. Eventually, either my brother, sister or myself got the wild idea that if we could jump off the high dive at the pool, what was so different with jumping off the boathouse roof. We spent the summer jumping.. and then holding hands with each other as we jumped, then jumping off with one of us on the shoulders of someone else, carwheels, anything we could think of, even eventually even riding small bicycles off the roof, their frames tied to our ankles like surfers tie their boards. We had a great time.

One time though, I jumped and landed in the water wrong. I got an earful of water and was in immense pain for days and days. To this day, I remember the feeling of that pain. For anyone who's ever had swimmer's ear, it's that magnified by 50 due to the pressure of hitting the water and its effects on my eardrum. It was horrible. I swore I'd never jump off the boathouse again. And I MEANT it.

Eventually though, in time, my ear stopped hurting. Eventually, without me realizing it was happening, I started to miss jumping off the boathouse and the high diving board. Eventually, when I was ready for it (and it wasn't something I could "do" to get there, it was just time that healed), I found myself climbing the ladder again.

I jumped off the board and the boathouse until I grew up and moved away. Jumping off the high diving board and that boathouse was probably the singularly most important lesson I ever learned about my life.

You can approach trust in baby steps. You can do so slowly and with great care. Eventually though, there comes a time when you finally have to just take that step off the edge. You have to decide that what you're doing is something you want far more than your fears and you have to jump.

When you jump, generally you're going to find that you're going to be ok. Sure you run risks. SURE you can be hurt, but the fact is, you have the resiliancy and the ability to take care of yourself. If things are really bad, generally there is someone nearby who can help you. And you're going to really be ok.

And if you DO get hurt, chances are there will be some time afterwards in which you're not going to want to put yourself in that situation again. That's a healthy reaction. However, as with most things. as you heal, you again find the courage to put yourself back into that same situation you were in before. This time though, you KNOW you have the resiliancy and ability to care for yourself. You have the strength to make it, no matter what is going to happen. ANd most of all, you can now remember and experience again, the thrill of being in that situation. You don't have to withhold that joy from your life again.

The walls we put up around ourselves serve purposes. They help us heal. But as with most things, we have some choices and some decisions to make. Sometimes, we don't even realize that we're going to have to make this decision. We can choose to hide forever behind our walls. We'll live our lives and seem perfectly fine, but we'll be missing the thrills we're protecting ourselves from. Or, when the time is right, even without realizing we're doing it, we can come out from behind our walls. We can climb the ladder again and we can look down to see the cool blue of the water and feel the joy that comes from having the confidence to jump in with both feet, confident that no matter what, we're going to be ok.

You're going to be ok - no matter if you get hurt again or not. You have the resiliancy, the strength and the ability to take care of yourself.

Enjoy the jump. Enjoy the ride. Enjoy your life.

juliet

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RE: In Need of a Little Guidance - 10/6/2007 7:29:14 PM   
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Be careful but enjoy the ride

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RE: In Need of a Little Guidance - 10/6/2007 7:58:51 PM   
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I am dealing with things of the same nature, though my relationship from start to current is 5 years so far- still..  I am troubled by the same type of things... though it seems when one unproductive thought is dealt with, sometimes a new one pops up though not always as quickly.
I think it all takes time.. it is much easier to break something than it is to build it. just a humble opinion from a simple girl. I do wish you luck.. and try not to be too hard on yourself.

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RE: In Need of a Little Guidance - 10/6/2007 9:05:21 PM   
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what a great story, Juliet!

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RE: In Need of a Little Guidance - 10/6/2007 9:10:16 PM   
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Holy Christ!  That was wonderful advice delivered in a enjoyable, personal and  thought provoking fashion.  I'm going to read it again!  Thanks Juliet!
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RE: In Need of a Little Guidance - 10/7/2007 3:38:51 AM   
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It was the wall around you, that kept you isolated from loving and being loved that hurt you...

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