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serisa -> wot no cumming ? ! (10/3/2007 9:27:15 AM)

any one have any advice (cough, cough) for a sub who just cant, no in neither way, any shape or form, never ever in her life either alone or with help cum........... yes fraid so! !.  no, i dont worry about too much and yes, Dom is VERY good.  he is very nice about it but baffled i think ! ! (i am too as i never had it so good)  i am starting to think i will die a cum virgin !

if someone had a magic technique i think i might seriously consider secretly breaking the no DIY rule, just to get my body going....... for his own good not mine ! .  its been a fair old while now so i feel totally comfortable with him.  its defiently my problem but i wish i could make him happy.

thanks A/all x x




breatheasone -> RE: wot no cumming ? ! (10/3/2007 10:07:26 AM)

Geezus...just get some lube and rub your clit until you cum...its not rocket science! [;)] If you really suspect a problem why not go to a gynecologist?




serisa -> RE: wot no cumming ? ! (10/3/2007 10:19:00 AM)

i expected a few sniggers here and there which is why i tried to tell it in good humour to show i know its funny.  However, thanks but if i didnt already know what you said i would be totally stupid and that i am not.  as far the other idea i have already spoke to a doctor and there is nothing medically speaking that would prevent it from happening.  i am deadly serious....





adoracat -> RE: wot no cumming ? ! (10/3/2007 10:23:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: breatheasone

Geezus...just get some lube and rub your clit until you cum...its not rocket science! [;)] If you really suspect a problem why not go to a gynecologist?


that's totally unfair to the OP.

i am QUITE easily orgasmic for the most part....and i have the occasional time that i just CANNOT pop.  not for love nor money, nor whichever method i try.  fingers, vibrator, shower massage, nothing.  its frustrating.

i can imagine its that much worse to someone who wants it badly and cant get there.

kitten




TotalState -> RE: wot no cumming ? ! (10/3/2007 10:27:26 AM)

Perhaps this is a stupid question, and if so I apologize, but:  Do you masturbate?  If you don't, or if you never did it much, it could easily explain your sexual dysfunction - I know for a fact that some of my female American friends never did, and thus never learned what they needed to do in order to make themselves come.  And if you don't know how, it's unlikely that anyone else can help you.

You should be trying, solo, over and over again.  If your doctor found nothing wrong, all you may need is practice and some relaxing alone time.




Celeste43 -> RE: wot no cumming ? ! (10/3/2007 10:34:41 AM)

First, go see your ob/gyn and have your hormone levels checked. It can be simply a medical issue.

Are you on b/c pills? Because they can change your hormonal levels and thus your ability to be orgasmic.

Beyond that, there's a book called Self Love or Self Loving by Betty Dodson, PhD. Enter it into amazon books and look not just at it but at the other recommendations that pop up. There was something else about becoming orgasmic in addition to the Dodson book which was the first in the field. Couldn't get it to link.

If not physical, and the books don't help, you could contact a therapist or sex therapist to see if she can identify any psychological issues. One thing that happens with younger, more attractive women is that they learn to turn off their sexuality subconsciously as doing so gets them less inappropriate conversation. Less garbagemen shouting out nice tits for example. And then you have to learn how to turn it back on consciously which is hard to do.




pseudopsychotic -> RE: wot no cumming ? ! (10/3/2007 10:46:12 AM)

I think, you just need to relax.
Like, when you lose something and you look and look and loook for it, but it's a no show, then you finally put it out of your mind and relax, that thing always turns up?

Same thing I think.
You just worked yoursef up, and not in the good way.




breatheasone -> RE: wot no cumming ? ! (10/3/2007 10:52:02 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: serisa

i expected a few sniggers here and there which is why i tried to tell it in good humour to show i know its funny.  However, thanks but if i didnt already know what you said i would be totally stupid and that i am not.  as far the other idea i have already spoke to a doctor and there is nothing medically speaking that would prevent it from happening.  i am deadly serious....



Since its not medical...is there anything that perhaps you may need counceling for?.....any "mental blocks" maybe.




serisa -> RE: wot no cumming ? ! (10/3/2007 10:53:02 AM)

thank you.  that was really interesting what you said about turning your sexuality off.  i am not really special by any means but i do and especially did when younger get alot of attention.  my naturally shy, submissive nature meant i couldnt handle this sort of attention and i did everything to discourage it.  i didnt want it but i couldnt express i didnt, and i didnt want to make it look like i didnt have a gsoh either. 
so i became 'invisible'.  it feels like my Dom now has turned it back on, but maybe its a little more complicated than just his doing.  hmmm....... x x





Celeste43 -> RE: wot no cumming ? ! (10/3/2007 10:59:26 AM)

Did the doctor take blood and send it out for hormone level testing? Because a physical examination won't tell anything about hormone levels.

Also there are a handful of specialists in female urology and those tend to handle sexual dysfunction issues for women as male urology specialists tend to handle sexual dysfunction issues for men. But it's a new specialty and you might have to wait some time for an appointment and travel a ways as well as asking beforehand if they specialize in sexual dysfunction.

For the turn off part, what I remember reading about it is that you need to work on it, not depend on someone else to turn you on again. Bubble baths by candle light, slowly working scented creams into your body - stuff that you would do for someone you loved, and you ought to be including yourself in the list of people you love. Destressing and enjoying yourself.




chellekitty -> RE: wot no cumming ? ! (10/3/2007 11:06:49 AM)

sounds like you are having the opposite of the typical problem most women have...most women - sex without the sexuallity (the thoughts, the fantasy, the psychological, etc) just doesn't work....you (perhaps?) - sex with the sexuallity for some reason doesn't work....because for so long its just been about the mechanics, ie, this feels good, this feels really good, boom orgasm...but! don't worry...you're not alone, and you're not weird, well you may be weird... but you're not broken....one of my best friends is going through this as well right now....its going to take time and training the brain....not sure how to explain this process just yet...but look into things like cumming on command and inducing subspace...its basically in short, a form of self hypnosis...and i am not sure how to give a better explination of that...
and i could be totally off base here, so i am gonna stop and please let me know if this sounds like it could be true or not?




serisa -> RE: wot no cumming ? ! (10/3/2007 11:27:59 AM)

i dont know chellekitty but thanks, i think i will look into these things you suggest.  i do seem subspace very quickly and easily.  maybe the self hypnosis thing would be something id find easy too




mnottertail -> RE: wot no cumming ? ! (10/3/2007 11:29:36 AM)

You are born, die and cum alone (whether anyone is watching or not)

cumming is the time to get yours, ignore the nots. Really--------

Let 'er buck!!!!!!!

Ron




willowspirit -> RE: wot no cumming ? ! (10/3/2007 11:34:23 AM)

First, I commend you for your positive attitude. This is a fairly long forum entry so please forgive me?
 
I was close to 30 years old before I could cum.  My Ex husband wouldn't allow toys OR any oral sex,  and I became darn near suicidal !  I was the epitome of  Frustration ! Getting aroused was no problem. Thinking sexually was easy.
 
My doctor said, "You're not even 30 yet. Don't worry about it. It will happen when it's time." But then, my mother is in her mid-seventies and has never had an orgasm ... [but the woman IS married to my father....   ]
In the encyclopedia, under human sexuality I read, paraphrasing, "... It seems women have to learn how to orgasm, because once they start having them, they have them in increasing frequency."
 
Then I read The Hite Report and read MANY other women's accounts of what they had to do physically, emotionally and mentally. Then it hit me! I finally became determined NOT to give up on myself! I was going to cum by my own fingers, and eventually find a way to tell my then husband how I did it.
 
I also realized that every time I quit and gave up, all that  did was teach by body to hold off even longer. Which was another reason for my determination.
One afternoon, when I felt a monthly hormonal surge, I got lube and started exploring my clit and it's responses. I found I had to "hunt" for that "sweet spot". and once I found it I stayed with it. I discovered my preferences for speed, and pressure, and lube.
For me, the slimier the better.
Next I learned that if I held my body muscles more rigid in the area, instead of being "limp" I could sustain the clitoral high longer.
Then I had to experiment with where to "hold my head" -- the mental aspects of do I relax? Or  do I get angry? Or do I make myself scared?
 I learned that "relaxing" mentally didn't work... No matter what "people" said.
Without knowing then what I know now  --  I had accidentally discovered my kink -- and that "relaxing" wasn't the same as "submissive head space".
 
It took me 45 minutes to cum that first time. My fingers and arms ached. I had a puddle of  KY on the bed. But I won!  I did it!
After a few weeks and after getting it down to about half and hour, I told my husband. Even the part about how I refused to give up on myself. He took over from there and it went back up to 45 or 50 minutes. Years later, before he and I divorced, it was down to sometimes as fast as a minute and a half under his fingers. (still no other method was allowed).
 
I also read and heard that once a woman has had a baby or two, the blood vessels there expand -- permanently. This increases the amount of blood flow to the area, which is extremely important.
 
Maybe "vacuum cupping" play will help with this over time.  Anyone else have an opinion on cupping?
 
I hope I helped somehow.




mnottertail -> RE: wot no cumming ? ! (10/3/2007 11:38:16 AM)

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Well done, and well said.

Ron




MRandme -> RE: wot no cumming ? ! (10/3/2007 11:48:55 AM)

If i might add two pfenning in here...

i have always had a difficult time achieving climax on my own. Masturbation with only my fingers leaves me frustrated and often even vibrators wouldn't help. This is especially frustrating since i am multiorgasmic with a partner (and most especially with my Master!).

i did find a G-spot vibrator -- one that has two vibrating bullets, one for the shaft and one centered on the clitoris -- that worked wonders! In fact, having two vibrators has just about always been what worked best. Where you put each one is up to you. i also found that not having the two going at the same speed worked better.

you didn't mention if you had tried these types of toys before, but it couldn't hurt. There is also something out there called a Tri-gasm that has three vibrating units -- one over the clitoris, one inserted vaginally and one inserted anally.

i do think that once you have one, it will be easier afterward.  and try some mental relaxation first, so you aren't stressing about it. A long erotic massage, get all worked up and then try the toys.

Good luck to you!

angie




AquaticSub -> RE: wot no cumming ? ! (10/3/2007 11:59:45 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: adoracat

quote:

ORIGINAL: breatheasone

Geezus...just get some lube and rub your clit until you cum...its not rocket science! [;)] If you really suspect a problem why not go to a gynecologist?


that's totally unfair to the OP.



Very unfair. I can not, for the life of me, achieve orgasm on my own. I have LOTS and LOTS with Valyraen (we go for insanely high numbers of mutiple orgasms) but I just can't do it on my own. I have the 115 dollar jackrabbit, I have the lube, I even have the damn DVD of "How to wank".  I even got a lovely friend to try and teach me how! Just ain't happening. I think I've pulled it off twice and it just wasn't worth the effort.

My advice to the OP: Just relax and learn to enjoy the ride even if you don't get the big O. Talk with him about it, see about adding more prep time, try different things to stimulate your mind from watching porn to reading erotica together.




serisa -> RE: wot no cumming ? ! (10/3/2007 12:04:30 PM)

wow willowspirit.  this is all great stuff, dont apologise for such a long post.  you did great for getting there, it sounded like alot of work but well worth the effort.

thank you




Mercnbeth -> RE: wot no cumming ? ! (10/3/2007 12:28:25 PM)

maybe you just aren't physically wired for it.  there are folks who never will cum and don't get sexually aroused, folks who cum this way or that way, and folks who train to control constant arousal and endure spontaneous orgasms.
 
the big "O", little "o" or series of "OoOoOo" is not the same for everyone.  just because you are female and identify as submissive doesn't mean you are going to get aroused or orgasm from the same things that other females who identify as submissive do.  maybe there is no "O" for you.
 
this slave's experiences are the exact opposite of yours...and there have been times when there was NOTHING this slave could do to stop from cumming, without any physical or mentally sexual stimulation preceding it.
 
imagine trying to get "help" for that, from partners or medical professionals...folks either insist it can't happen or ask what the hell are you complaining about. there have been times in this slave's 40 years when it was something that left her feeling very help-less and frustrated....why?  because, for a time, she wanted to be something other than how she was designed...y'know, "normal", like the others that need and enjoy warm-up and foreplay and vibrators.
 
this slave finally abandoned her quest for "normal", left "self" at the door on the way in, and would suggest that you do too.[:)]




sweetnurseBBW -> RE: wot no cumming ? ! (10/3/2007 12:53:25 PM)

Sometimes is a psychological block from performance anxiety whether it be alone or with others. If you stress too much about having one during activity sometimes your mind freaks and it won't happen. I don't know if you can try different toys, areas etc to see what works, and relax and don't stress about worrying about having one.




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