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leatherette -> RE: Sub cums too much to get Dom off Help! (10/4/2007 2:03:26 PM)

amber:
So the "problem" is only when you ride on top of him correct?

I a multi too.   Never has been a complaint or problem. Easy peasy.

Doesn't he enjoy other positions? "Places"?
What if he nails you down? Then who cares if you cum?




SexyBlackMan2 -> RE: Sub cums too much to get Dom off Help! (10/4/2007 5:57:22 PM)

I don't know about your Master but I LOVE it when my slaves cum....especially when I am practicing orgasm control with them. It's so intense and that's something I love. I've learned their bodies and know how to not break the rythym.




RRafe -> RE: Sub cums too much to get Dom off Help! (10/4/2007 6:04:38 PM)

Hmm....wouldn't be an issue for me.

I'd just bind the girl on her belly on the bed, legs together............ and sodomize her.

It's easy enough to just slide in to the hilt, and stop moving when she's orgasming. And tight bonds in that position don't let her move-at all. Especially with my full weight pinning her hips to the bed.

And I LOVE the feeling of a strong sphincter flutttering around the base of my cock.[;)]




NightWindWhisper -> RE: Sub cums too much to get Dom off Help! (10/4/2007 6:23:22 PM)

With a reasonable amount of patience you can be encouraged, and then trained to orgasm with no exterior muscular movement.  I have a delightful clip of a woman orgasming with no exterior movement--you can see her abdomen spasming but she is neither flailing about, or acting spastically.  She is perfectly receptive until her man has cum--she orgasmst with him, then he allows her to "buck back," on a second orgasm.  The control is delightful.

I believe that often men and women in general "work too hard," meaning that an intense orgasm can be experienced with the arms/legs/neck/back ect. in a totally relaxed state.   I'm sure that some here will identify with the "trying too hard get over the edge."  This reminds me of the frequent bodybuilder benchpressing quite a lot of weight, and making amazing facial movements and noises.  At times I comment: "you know, your facial muscles are not connected to the pectorals, nor is your voice--those movements do nothing to help you achieve what you are trying to achieve."  Often they do learn to relax the muscles that they have used "by habit," but which do nothing to aid them.

I suggest that you try masturbating, on your own, and trying to orgasm with your non-internal muscles relaxed--you might be amazed at what happens.  Work towards an orgasmic release in the most relaxed state possible--don't worry, at the right time your organs will know what to do. 

My preferred method of orgasming is having her orgasm, upon command, with appropriate foreplay, doggie style, but with no external movement.  No external movement does not detract from the orgasm.  During coitus the penis "crowns" when it is ready, this causes up to a 35% increase in the diameter of the glans penis.  If you doubt this, watch some clips or perform some slow hand jobs.  This crowning signals to the tissues of tha vagina which become engorged with blood, thus tightening the grip on the man's penis.  When he starts to orgasm, or when she orgasms, the vagina communicates with the glans penis intitiating a sequence.  At that point of inevitability both initiate an upward spiral resulting on joint orgasm--the way, in my opinion, it should be. 

At first, work to allow yourself to orgasm with only intra-vaginal movement.  This will give him the opportunity of setting the pace.  He should be the one who orders you, when he senses that both of you are ready to orgasm.

You can cum over and over again, quetly, and non-spastically, and give him the space to dominate the time when he wants you both to orgasm co-incidentally.




YourhandMyAss -> RE: Sub cums too much to get Dom off Help! (10/4/2007 6:47:12 PM)

Just so you know, not all  expelling of bodily fluids for lack of better word is loosing control of bladder some women can female eqaculate, or spray, and spraying is not the same as peeing.
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ORIGINAL: MasterLordguru

only to fist her and then she came.. over and over and over.. losing control of her body and her bladder.M.L.G




RRafe -> RE: Sub cums too much to get Dom off Help! (10/4/2007 7:14:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss

Just so you know, not all  expelling of bodily fluids for lack of better word is loosing control of bladder some women can female eqaculate, or spray, and spraying is not the same as peeing.
quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterLordguru

only to fist her and then she came.. over and over and over.. losing control of her body and her bladder.M.L.G



It's not always the bladder-but you can threaten diapers anyhow.[;)]




Kirata -> RE: Sub cums too much to get Dom off Help! (10/4/2007 8:36:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Amber22

I'm multi-orgasmic and particularly so with my dom. It's great for me, but because I cum so often and not far apart it's more difficult for my dom to cum because he (or I) breaks while I orgasm. Well, I'm convulsing and making my "O" face-- so even if he pins me it's still breaking up his rythmn too much. Is there a way to train myself to *decrease* my sensitivity? Or perhaps a way to increase his? More foreplay beforehand? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


I have to go with MrDiscipline on this one. I find it difficult to conceive of a multi-orgasmic female as a "problem". Jeeez, what's next, a girl who is "too pretty" looking for suggestions on how to induce warts?
 
K.
 




Amber22 -> RE: Sub cums too much to get Dom off Help! (10/5/2007 12:45:16 AM)

tsatke -- he trained me to cum on command aprox. 8-10 months ago. Though his focus is typically on ample numbers or using it when we swing. I will ask if he'll use it the other way around... (except maybe for swinging. If I don't follow his instructions, punishment follows ... which isn't something other swingers necessarily want to be apart of.)
Laurell3: He's said to me twice that he wouldn't be able to cum because of it. It seemed to aggravate and irritate him at those times. I wouldn't say it's concerning to him now, but I don't want it to escalate into one either. As far as getting more, that's not a problem with either of us. But his cum is a perk. He cums on my face and in my mouth. Though he will use piss as a substitute if he chooses.
georgejames: we kinda stepped out of that though.
HollyBlue: He's brought up restrictive bondage and a gag, but hasn't tried it on me yet. I'll beg for that one.
Rohurls: I'm not a fan of slow anal. I prefer rough anal. When his balls slap my lips after orgasm from vaginal sex the hypersensitivity reignites and makes for a great blended o. He has remarked that I'm still tight after 2, 3, 4 hours so I don't think that's it. Also, he delays his cum in the beginning and then not be able to later. But as I said to tsatke, I can give delaying mine a try.
MrDiscipline44: Perhaps the conveyance is off in your message, but it seems inherently disrespectful to a dom to insinuate that they lack control of their sub. What a backwards flirt. My dom does whatever he wants to me whenever he wants and bottomline I have absolutely no control over his actions or his decisions.
AquaticSub: I've tried the grocery list thing, and it does help to an extent but I lose my focus when he gets demanding. It's like multi-tasking that can end in bruises.
Koala: That's a good tip. I'll try it.
MasterLordguru: Thanks for your perspective. The deprivation is a great idea ... I'm not ready for fisting personally but one never knows...
misoferin: To clarify the breaks -- I almost always am on top when we start. An hour in, I'm hot, sweaty, shaking uncontrollably, any tiny movement sends me back into the stratasphere and I'm begging for a drink of water. Not to mention that if I'm not facing him and he has my wrists behind my back then I've depended on the muscle in my thighs to do the work which means those are burning and sometimes will spasm. It's demanding and it's not over. I beg desperately for those breaks.
Celeste43: We could do that, but it's more mellow where he wants something more extreme. Ocassionally he will let me suck him off after he's decided I've had enough, but if that happens then he's more likely pissed and will delay his ejaculation again even moreso. That's primarily because at that point he's asserting his domination. He also knows that I really want his cum and tend to think he'll let me taste it after delaying it again and again. But it's a dom thing, so he won't necessarily give me what I want.
IamJustMe2C: I've mentioned this before, accept my dom uses it primarily to make me cum more. It's only been recently that my orgasm interfered with his. So we'll give it a go. But I was under the impression that sex itself should not be painful, especially to that extreme and it could be an indicator of some other health related problems that an OB/GYN should check out. Just an FYI. Beautiful dog, by the way ... wolf descent?
mistoferin: I've never had a painful orgasm ... not after 40, 50, or 60. When I put my ankles behind my head then I will feel discomfort in my legs after 2 orgasms.
Aubre: That takes care of birthday plans!
Annabelle: sorry, I worded that poorly. I was trying to be reserved while referring to blowing him and that specific duration. I wanted to be concise for my question, focused on intercourse, without going into a lot of unwarranted detail but I blew that a long time ago. That said, he loves to watch me play with anal plugs, DP vibrators while masturbating then has me perform oral on him, hand jobs, ocassional rim and then he switches back his focus on me... fingers, dildo, what have you, then back to oral on him. But yeah, that is stimulating me and I wonder if the best route for that would be somewhere in the middle or close to the end of intercourse? I'll try that.
leatherette: It's not actually about me cumming, it's what I do when I cum. He wouldn't care less if I cum, wherever, if I were more able to control myself.  because then his focus becomes more on restraining me, you see.
NightWindWhisper: I'll ask him to read your post and tell me what he thinks. I don't think he wants a silent, still fuck, however.
Kirata: Yeah, you may do that if you don't read the entire reason for why I asked the question in the first place. It's not about the multiple orgasms, it was about the inadvertant consequence.
To close, I had no idea there were so many women who were multi-orgasmic who could give their advice to me. It was welcoming. Equally, it amazes me that so many people in general didn't seem to take into consideration what the power and intensity of multiple orgasms equate to. But I've been given so many great ideas and am excited to try most of them. For me, it seems like the most logical solution is harsh bondage if continuity is wanted; chastity would be perfect for punishment or play; more segments of foreplay during intercourse could help acheive more balance; thinking of mundane chores often results in getting slapped; and to try not allowing permission if more verbal control is desired, and overall, men love multi-o in general.
Thank you for all you help and suggestions. It means a lot to me. I hope I didn't come across as too bitchy anywhere. Also, I'm too tired to edit this post, but I don't think there are too many errors. Once again, thanks guys!
--Amber22




SixFootMaster -> RE: Sub cums too much to get Dom off Help! (10/5/2007 3:38:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Amber22
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To close, I had no idea there were so many women who were multi-orgasmic who could give their advice to me. It was welcoming. Equally, it amazes me that so many people in general didn't seem to take into consideration what the power and intensity of multiple orgasms equate to. But I've been given so many great ideas and am excited to try most of them. For me, it seems like the most logical solution is harsh bondage if continuity is wanted; chastity would be perfect for punishment or play; more segments of foreplay during intercourse could help acheive more balance; thinking of mundane chores often results in getting slapped; and to try not allowing permission if more verbal control is desired, and overall, men love multi-o in general.
Thank you for all you help and suggestions. It means a lot to me. I hope I didn't come across as too bitchy anywhere. Also, I'm too tired to edit this post, but I don't think there are too many errors. Once again, thanks guys!
--Amber22


An excellent summary. FWIW, foreplay to me is more important than intercourse - foreplay is the mindfuck, the exhileration and manipulation, the demonstration of control and the compulsion of renewed and desperate fervent submission. It lasts all day, from the first time I touch her in the morning, broken up between chores and duties, continued through telephone and internet during work, and consumated savagely at any time I choose it. I'm not sure how your master and you define foreplay, and I don't think it would really affect your problem, just struggle to see how it could last twenty minutes.




adoracat -> RE: Sub cums too much to get Dom off Help! (10/5/2007 5:50:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin
Yup, orgasms can hurt after you have 50 of them in a row. There's also that time immediately after an orgasm when it's so intense that you just don't want to be touched or stimulated. Thank goodness though that I've been with men who just overlook all of that and continue doing what they want to do, despite my crying, begging and pleading. Pretty soon those feelings go away and the tension starts to mount for the NEXT orgasm. Then the cries start to turn to "OMG, not another one, I can't take anymore....PLEASE!!!!". And thank goodness I've been with men who delight in those pleas and continue to do what they want to do....because it really isn't all about me....and GAWD that's what makes it so fricking HOT!!!!!!


*nods*  that's Sir, too.  there is NOTHING he likes better than for me to go from begging him to stop....to begging "DONT stop, please!"

and making a right puddle of the bed makes him grin ear to ear....

kitten




LadyLynx -> RE: Sub cums too much to get Dom off Help! (10/5/2007 6:06:38 AM)

My advice to you is: you and your Master enjoy your cumming alot now, because as you get older.......the wells could dry up.  that is what happened to me




mytruth2u -> RE: Sub cums too much to get Dom off Help! (10/5/2007 1:17:22 PM)

I didn’t know that there were that many multi-orgasmic women out there. I personally have the opposite problem. It takes a lot to make me cum i have only had about 2 boy friends that were even able to get me to cum once. I am new to this scene though and i hope that with a good Dom that that will change. I so wish i had your problem want to trade? hehe




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Sub cums too much to get Dom off Help! (10/5/2007 10:29:52 PM)

It sounds like a "simple" matter of training- learning what works and what doesn't in eachothers bodies, deciding what positions you can and can't compromise on, and teaching your body to respond in new ways and specific pathways which will please him the most.




YourhandMyAss -> RE: Sub cums too much to get Dom off Help! (10/6/2007 11:49:33 AM)

I do not wish to discourage you but most likely no, having a dom will not change the difficulty with orgasming if the problem is within you, yourself. Now if the last two people were just inept maybe. Make sure any dominant you seek is interested in your sexual pleasure, not all doms are, in fact a good many are like I'll fuck you, when I want, I don't care if you cum, or if you enjoyed yourself.

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ORIGINAL: mytruth2u

. It takes a lot to make me cum i have only had about 2 boy friends that were even able to get me to cum once. I am new to this scene though and i hope that with a good Dom that that will change. I so wish i had your problem want to trade? hehe




faerielights -> RE: Sub cums too much to get Dom off Help! (10/6/2007 11:52:22 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mytruth2u

I didn’t know that there were that many multi-orgasmic women out there. I personally have the opposite problem. It takes a lot to make me cum i have only had about 2 boy friends that were even able to get me to cum once. I am new to this scene though and i hope that with a good Dom that that will change. I so wish i had your problem want to trade? hehe


Do you ever masturbate?

Thats how I learned to orgasm and eventually to multi ...




Sexynmentalinkc -> RE: Sub cums too much to get Dom off Help! (10/6/2007 11:56:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterLordguru

I feel that you are worrying he is not being pleased. Unless he has complained about the amount of times you have cum, I dont think he has an issue. I personally enjoy seeing a woman climax multiple amount of times, but thats because I know I'm doing what is necessary to keep her on edge. It also means that she is a slave to her body.. and that I am just plucking the strings that are necessary to keep her strumming.  However, if you feel that your cumming is interfering in his pleasure.. have him deprive you of reaching your orgasm. The few times I have forced the issue with the pup, she is hotter than hell but after I cum, she will lose it.. and I mean LOSE It.  I once played with a sub (one who I still play with on occassion).. and flogged, cropped, spanked and paddled her for a good 90 minutes, depriving her of her orgasm.. only to fist her and then she came.. over and over and over.. losing control of her body and her bladder. It is all recorded and it was beautiful.

M.L.G



/seconds

Well said.


*tips his hat*

- Mr. S




kittybri -> RE: Sub cums too much to get Dom off Help! (10/6/2007 12:14:13 PM)

multi-orgasms huh...very jealous...especially since i've never had 1 in my life




sexyred1 -> RE: Sub cums too much to get Dom off Help! (10/6/2007 12:17:25 PM)

Sorry, I don't get it. I am multi-orgasmic and no one ever had trouble getting off with me.




faerielights -> RE: Sub cums too much to get Dom off Help! (10/6/2007 12:33:31 PM)

I don't get it either but 'm not a guy so I don't know what it takes for a guy to get off ... I know I can get a guy off but I always figured I was just good like that.




domiguy -> RE: Sub cums too much to get Dom off Help! (10/6/2007 1:06:37 PM)

Don't get it.....I would just keep on a pounding away regardless of what is happening to your snatch or going through that little pea brain of yours......




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