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Lashra -> What would you do if... (10/5/2007 1:37:40 PM)

Your a Dom/me and you take your sub/slave to a play party. Your sub/slave has an intense dislike for submales, it is so bad in fact that she purposely singles them out to start arguments with. Mind you others at the party are watching what is happening. The submale may have a Dom/me at the party who isn't at their side at the moment. He (the submale) may decide he isn't going to allow your sub to treat him badly.

What do you as her Dom/me do? Let her continue because you also view all submales as worthless worms who gave up their "natural" dominance to grovel at someones feet? Do you yank her back into line and force her to apologize plus enforce some form of discipline? or do you stand by and do nothing? Do you step up to the plate if he (the submale) decides he isn't going to take anymore of her lip and verbally blasts her? Just what would YOU do in this instance?

Disclaimer: I in NO way consider submales weak, worthless or worms. Most are some of the strongest men I've ever met. The language just seemed to fit the scenario.

~Lashra

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Bobkgin -> RE: What would you do if... (10/5/2007 1:40:42 PM)

Were this me (and I can think of several reasons why it wouldn't be) she would never have talked out of turn to begin with.

I do not tolerate rudeness in my slaves, ever.




AquaticSub -> RE: What would you do if... (10/5/2007 1:46:50 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lashra

Just what would YOU do in this instance?



Chastise her in front anyone who happens to watching and make her ask for forgiveness. Possibly make her ask the submale's owner for forgiveness. If I am her dominant, doing that and the knowledge that she has disappointed me and embarrassed me by her outrageous and completely unacceptable behavior should be more than enough punishment for her.




hisannabelle -> RE: What would you do if... (10/5/2007 1:47:06 PM)

greetings lashra,

i would deal with the issue this slave seems to have with learning when it is appropriate to open her mouth and what it is appropriate to say. in my humble opinion, unless they have consented to it and know that is what the party is about, it is inappropriate to make someone else uncomfortable in their position at a play party just because you have an intense dislike for the particular category they fall under. if the slave in question could not keep her mouth shut on the subject, i'd take her out of the play party, if i were in the dominant position, and not bring her back to any play party until she learned how to act appropriately. i would also not in any way, shape, or form fault the sub male in question for retaliating and being offended by such inappropriate behavior (although their dominant may have their own views on the matter).

respectfully,
annabelle.




Owner4SexSlave -> RE: What would you do if... (10/5/2007 1:49:27 PM)

If this was TPE slave, there would be hell to pay for rule breaking.  In terms of a D/s with partial power exchange, there would be one hell of a sit down talk and/or punishment as well. 

I would simply step up to the plate and subdue or restain the sub/slave in question before it got any more out of control.  Locate the male sub/slaves owner if need be, take things private for apologies or whatnot.  Basically remove the whole situation from the public sight.   It's a play party and others need to be respected as well.

If the male sub/slave managed to make his point and dish it back out, I might secretly be smiling inside for a bit about it.  I would most certainly would enforce some form of discipline.   




SunNMoon -> RE: What would you do if... (10/5/2007 2:00:18 PM)

Depending on how long we have been dating I have two different out comes in mind. And I do have problems grasping viewing submales as “worthless worms,” so I’m just going to ignore that point.
 
If we’d only been together for a couple of months, I’d say the relationship is over. Following from the saying “how they treat the wait staff is how they will treat you;” if they can’t treat people in a polite manner and had this judgment. We’d just be done.
 
Now if we’d be together longer. I would make her apologize to both the submale and his D-type. And say if she continues this she’s out on her butt.
 
If he stood up to her, oh I’d be rooting for him. She would deserves everything he says to her (if it goes further then talk I’d step in).
 
I would not be in a relationship with a person with her opinion.
 




BitaTruble -> RE: What would you do if... (10/5/2007 2:00:36 PM)

~FR~

I wouldn't associate with someone who was so socially inept as to intentionally create scenes because they couldn't control their own distaste for another human simply based on their orientation. On-line, I block such characters, in person, I leave them.

Celeste




littlesarbonn -> RE: What would you do if... (10/5/2007 2:02:05 PM)

I'd personally lose all respect for the Domme/Dom who is in charge of this submissive because I'd be shocked that someone's dislike for submales is even allowed to erupt at a social gathering. If this was a male submissive throwing a hissy fit over female submissives, I guarantee there would be an army of people attacking the guy for being intolerant, and possibily indicating that he doesn't even deserve to have an owner.

Personally, I don't care if someone has dislikes of someone else's desires in the scene, but it drives me freaking batty when they make those dislikes verbal, specifically attacking the person who believes in that behavior. But to be honest, I would not be surprised if more than a few people excuse it because it's "a woman's choice" and we must all be tolerant of her choice to be intolerant, or whatever drivel is used to justify someone's hostility towards other people in the scene. If she doesn't like submales, she doesn't have to play with them. Pretty simple. But like I said, if I ran across a person like this who treated me like someone who didn't belong at an open function, I'd be pointing my antenni directly at the dominant, and that person would lose every ounce of respect he or she could ever have from me and anyone who ever asked me about him or her.




LaTigresse -> RE: What would you do if... (10/5/2007 2:09:55 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

~FR~

I wouldn't associate with someone who was so socially inept as to intentionally create scenes because they couldn't control their own distaste for another human simply based on their orientation. On-line, I block such characters, in person, I leave them.

Celeste


ditto




WinsomeDefiance -> RE: What would you do if... (10/5/2007 2:10:19 PM)

My symapthies are with the Host/ess and innocent bystanders of the party!  I think both subs/slaves should be held to a standard of respect that does not allow for them to create an uncomfortable atmosphere at any event.  The female should be held accountable for instigating, the male for allowing another to provoke him into inappropriate behavior. While I would sympathise with the male slaves anger, losing your temper and creating an unpleasant environment is just uncalled for.  I understand the frustrations, but it doesn't justify causing a public scene.

I would hope that both Dominants would publicly apologize for the behavior of their submissives/slaves and deal with their behavior privately.  To discipline the slaves publicly would probably increase the discomfort of those attending.  Were I the hostess, I would take all involved aside and discreetly make it clear that such behavior will not be tolerated in the future and were I the dominant of the male, I'd speak  to the host/ess (on his behalf) and let him/her know what was going on so that in the future - the girl's actions can be monitored and she and her dominant held accountable up to and including being unwelcome at future parties..

That is the IDEAL best of a bad situation.  Unfortunately, people aren't always that civil/reasonable.  If the Dominant of the female condones her behavior, there really isn't anything that can be done about it except allow for enough public outcry where that couple is ostracized.  The other alternative, would be to avoid parties this girl attends.  Which is unfortunate, I know.




Focus50 -> RE: What would you do if... (10/5/2007 2:11:25 PM)

Everything my submissive property does is representative of myself - and I'd *never* tolerate such rude and obnoxious behaviour from her.  Creating "white knight" situations in general is manipulative and damned insulting to my intelligence!
 
We all have our prejudices and we all have the judgement to manage them.  Well, I do and I'd expect any sub I own would be equally mature and compatible.
 
On the other hand, I'm also protective of my property, too!  So if some other sub (or dom/me, or anyone) was being equally rude or obnoxious to my girl, it'd get real ugly, real fast!  And if I'm not immediately present when it happens, my girl is trained to politely excuse herself and find me *pronto*!
 
Focus.




FRSguy -> RE: What would you do if... (10/5/2007 2:17:06 PM)

LOL,

That would really piss me off to the point that one stare would start the little bitch (sorry sub) shaking...LOL
In a situation like that my mind would definatly draw a very dim view of the sub. I kind of think of it as when
you take your dog to the park and it goes after another dog to fight.  Puishment would definatly take place
both public and private and it would definatly be humilliating to a strong degree. That of course would only
be if I was still willing to keep them as my sub which I would have problems with.




Tristan -> RE: What would you do if... (10/5/2007 2:39:36 PM)

I would handle this situation as I would any other other situation where I was with someone who was rude or insulting.  I would probably tell her something like her behavior is rude and insulting and reflects poorly on her.  In private, I would probably ask why she felt the need to be so insulting.  And if she were my submissive, there would be a punishment following our discussion.

Tristan




velvetears -> RE: What would you do if... (10/5/2007 2:43:29 PM)

Inivite him to a private room with you and the sub and after she apologizes grant him permission to punish her.  [sm=evil.gif]




kyraofMists -> RE: What would you do if... (10/5/2007 2:44:26 PM)

Not that I can ever imagine myself doing something like this... 

It wouldn't really matter who the other person is, whether they were dominant, submissive, etc. or where we were, if I am demonstrating behavior that he finds unacceptable he is going to say something to me and expect me to correct it.  As his slave I am expected to maintain a certain types of behaviors and if I stray outside of those behaviors he will correct me rather quickly.

Knight's Kyra




WinsomeDefiance -> RE: What would you do if... (10/5/2007 2:50:44 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: velvetears

Inivite him to a private room with you and the sub and after she apologizes grant him permission to punish her.  [sm=evil.gif]


I was thinking that were she MY submissive, I'd probably gag her at parties and not permit her the priviledge of talking, until her behavior improved (assuming I'd take her with me to them at all or even have someone that closed minded and badly behaved in my life).  I can't even envision a scenario where I would be the Dominant who encouraged the behavior by condoning it. 




Celeste43 -> RE: What would you do if... (10/5/2007 3:15:51 PM)

I detest bigots in whatever form. And I wouldn't be with one.

Assuming she's ever been in school, had a job, ever been to a party; then she's been in venues where she had to be civil to people she may have detested for much better reasons. Which means cocktail party conversation ie weather, sports, fashion. These are neutral topics which people can safely share. Any adult should be able to converse neutrally and civilly. If they can and refuse to? Walk and suggest they get rehab as there is no other reason to be horribly offensive to strangers who have done nothing to harm you.




XaviersXian -> RE: What would you do if... (10/5/2007 3:19:38 PM)

greetings to all,

if the girl was properly trained, and was actually what she claimed to be in the first place, this scenario would not be happening.

just xian's two cents...

well wishes,

xian - Property of Xavier, House of Logos.




EclipseAbove -> RE: What would you do if... (10/5/2007 3:32:01 PM)

I don't think I'd ever end up in a situation like this because I'd like to think that I am better at weeding out people who would behave in such a manner.  But if I somehow found myself in the situation, my reaction would largely depend on the relationship I have with my sub/slave.  If it was a relatively new sub/slave, I'd let them do as they wished because at that point they wouldn't be my sub/slave - they just wouldn't know it yet.  At the first moment that wouldn't interrupt the "action", I'd take back any collar, etc. and without a word, walk away and wash my hands of them.  If it was a sub/slave that I had been with for several years, I would immediately intervene and remove my sub/slave from the enviroment, physically if necessary.  I would return quickly and appologize to everyone at the party for the agregious behavior.  The sub/slave and I would then have a private discussion about the unacceptable behavior and the future of the relationship, if any.  It would most likely be a relationship ender, but I'd give anyone I had invested years with at least an opportunity to talk about it.




laurell3 -> RE: What would you do if... (10/5/2007 3:36:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

~FR~

I wouldn't associate with someone who was so socially inept as to intentionally create scenes because they couldn't control their own distaste for another human simply based on their orientation. On-line, I block such characters, in person, I leave them.

Celeste


me too
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