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Gwynvyd -> RE: Vore (10/10/2007 8:06:31 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyLynx

hmm that idea sounds like fun.  I think I will save it.  total mind fuck

Gwyn, you sound positively evil! **grins**


*Curtseys* thank you, thank you.. you have no idea... *winks*

well the steak switch out was Bita's idea.. stroke of genius that...
Zebra butt is mine. *smiles* it also works well when you have more then one sub about.. lock a room, and whip them all up into a panicked frenzy. *oh the fun!* (taps her nail on her lips... Hmm it's been a while)

them all cute, huddled in a corner... gripping onto each other... *happy evil sigh* sweet little whimpers as you reach out with that evil grin that says "Oh you will enjoy this" them not knowing which one will be taken first..

Damn I need playtime bad... Thankfuly I am going to see my girl this weekend.. she is still down in Naples.. and my slave will be here on Friday to see me.  The poor dears. *Big Grin* say a little prayer for them both.

Gwyn




chellekitty -> RE: Vore (10/10/2007 9:17:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Gwynvyd

I used to be an abuse councilor.. so I know the mechanics behind the how to get through to folks.. but he is an odd bird.. and the usual doesnt work with him. How do you get through and give consequences to someone with whom punishment means nothing, and guilt is a non factor. Damn hard.

Gwyn,
Vexed mother to equaly evil son.


something that has helped with my scarily similar younger brother who enjoyed in school suspension and did things to get suspended and expelled on purpose in 5th grade....equine therapy...and last year his therapist said he couldn't come back...cause he graduated....i was so proud of him...he's a much higher functioning 6'2-could-kill-you-with-his-bare-hands-and-probably-enjoy-it 17 year old now...but he is doing a lot better...something about doing therapy with horses...you can't force them to your will....and if you try they will hurt you...and you can't blame them....you knew what you were doing and they were just acting on instinct and they will tell you with body language what they are gonna do...and if the therapist is good, if the kid is too mad to work with the horses that day, he gets to shovel horse shit to work out agression or sit there and do nothing the whole time...it did amazing things...i totally recomend it...and our insurance paid for it...you should check it out...

umm now back to your regularly scheduled perverts-r-us




Gwynvyd -> RE: Vore (10/10/2007 9:48:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: chellekitty

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ORIGINAL: Gwynvyd

I used to be an abuse councilor.. so I know the mechanics behind the how to get through to folks.. but he is an odd bird.. and the usual doesnt work with him. How do you get through and give consequences to someone with whom punishment means nothing, and guilt is a non factor. Damn hard.

Gwyn,
Vexed mother to equaly evil son.


something that has helped with my scarily similar younger brother who enjoyed in school suspension and did things to get suspended and expelled on purpose in 5th grade....equine therapy...and last year his therapist said he couldn't come back...cause he graduated....i was so proud of him...he's a much higher functioning 6'2-could-kill-you-with-his-bare-hands-and-probably-enjoy-it 17 year old now...but he is doing a lot better...something about doing therapy with horses...you can't force them to your will....and if you try they will hurt you...and you can't blame them....you knew what you were doing and they were just acting on instinct and they will tell you with body language what they are gonna do...and if the therapist is good, if the kid is too mad to work with the horses that day, he gets to shovel horse shit to work out agression or sit there and do nothing the whole time...it did amazing things...i totally recomend it...and our insurance paid for it...you should check it out...

umm now back to your regularly scheduled perverts-r-us



I had forgotten about that.. he was much better when we had our equestrian outlet. He loved working with Bear. ( the horse I went flying off of and seriously srewed up my back 7 ways to Sunday on My fault not his..) When he got shitty with me.. off to the barn he went to shovel poo... and lots of it. It does help. I know caring after Ginger my horse when I was a young girl settled me right down. He has asked me about doing it again so I really should check into a local place.

Thank you so much for bringing this up!

Gwyn,
Back in the saddle again




Prinsexx -> RE: Vore (10/10/2007 10:06:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: EvilGeoff

Vore is purely fantasy...


No there is this most infamous case...(from Wiki) which was also made into an insightful television programme shown on British TV about two months ago:
Armin Meiwes (born December 1, 1961) is a German who achieved international notoriety for killing and eating a voluntary victim he had found via the Internet. After jointly attempting to eat the detached penis,
Meiwes killed his victim, and continued to eat a large amount of his flesh. Because of his deeds, Meiwes is also known as the "Rotenburg Cannibal" or "Metzgermeister" (The Master Butcher). Armin posted an advertisement on the Internet, looking for a willing victim. The post stated that he was "looking for a well-built 18 to 30-year-old to be slaughtered and then consumed". Bernd Jürgen Brandes responded to the advertisement.
Bernd Jürgen Brandes was known for his interest in mutilation and his activity in the homosexual prostitution scene of his home city. As is known from a videotape the two made when they met in March 2001 in Meiwes' home, Meiwes amputated Bernd Jürgen Brandes's penis and the two men attempted to eat the penis together before Bernd Jürgen Brandes was killed. Brandes had insisted that Meiwes attempt to bite his penis off. This did not work, so Meiwes used a knife. Brandes apparently tried to eat some of his own penis raw, but could not because it was too tough and, as he put it, "chewy".
Meiwes then sautéed the penis in a pan with salt, pepper, and garlic, but by then it was too burned to be consumed.[3] According to journalists who saw the video (which has not been made public), Brandes may already have been too weakened from blood loss to actually eat any of his penis. Armin Meiwes read a Star Trek book for 3 hours whilst his victim was bleeding to death in the bath. Meiwes apparently gave him large quantities of alcohol and pain killers, and then killed him in a room that he had built in his house for this purpose. After stabbing Bernd Jürgen Brandes to death in the throat, he hung the body on a meathook and tore hunks of flesh from it, he even tried to grind the bones to use as flour.
The whole scene was recorded on the 2-hour video tape. Meiwes ate the body over the next few months, storing body parts in his freezer under pizza boxes and consuming up to 20kg of the flesh. Meiwes was arrested in December 2002, after a man in Innsbruck phoned the police after seeing new advertisements for victims and details about the killing on the Internet. Investigators searched his home and found body parts and the videotaped killing. Meiwes was later convicted of manslaughter and sentenced to eight and half years in prison. The case attracted considerable media attention and led to a debate over whether
Meiwes could be convicted at all, given that Bernd Jürgen Brandes had voluntarily and knowingly participated in the act. Meiwes has admitted what he has done, and expressed regret for his actions. He added he wanted to write a book of his life story with the aim of deterring anyone who wants to follow his steps. Surprisingly, a number of websites dedicated to Meiwes have appeared, with people advertising for willing victims. "They should go for treatment, so it doesn't escalate like it did with me," said Meiwes. He believes there are about 800 "cannibals" in Germany. In April 2005, a German court ordered a retrial after prosecutors appealed his sentence.
They believed he should have been convicted of murder, not manslaughter, and given a life sentence. Among the questions courts answered is whether Brandes agreed to his killing, and whether he was legally capable of doing so at the moment of killing, taking into account his apparent mental problems as well as his significant intake of alcohol and other drugs. Other aspects of the retrial determined whether Meiwes killed to satiate his own desires (in particular sexual desires), and not because he was asked to, which Meiwes has repeatedly rejected during testimony.
At his retrial a psychologist stated that Meiwes could reoffend and still "had fantasies about devouring the flesh of young people." On 9 May 2006, a court in Frankfurt
convicted Meiwes of murder and sentenced him to life imprisonment.


Abd the TV documentary, which was exceptional was:
 Five to air cannibal documentary Leigh Holmwood in Cannes
Wednesday October 10, 2007
MediaGuardian.co.uk
Channel Five is to screen an interview with the German cannibal who made headlines around the world after being convicted for the murder of a man he met on the internet, who consented to being killed and then eaten. The case of Armin Meiwes caused a worldwide sensation because his victim, Berlin engineer Bernd Brandes, had agreed to being killed then eaten after the pair made contact through a chatroom. Meiwes was eventually convicted in May 2006 of the murder of Brandes after prosecutors appealed against an earlier conviction for manslaughter. Five is expected to air an hour-long German documentary, The Cannibal of Rotenburg, later this year. It will feature interviews with Meiwes in prison, where he is serving a life sentence. RDF Media, which is reversioning the film made by German company Stampfwerk Medienproduktions for the UK, said it was a "truly gripping documentary". Meiwes first made contact with Brandes in 2001 after advertising for a "young well-built man, who wanted to be eaten". In March that year, Brandes visited Meiwes at his house in the small town of Rotenburg where he swallowed 20 sleeping tablets and half a bottle of schnapps. Meiwes famously then cut off Brandes' penis - with the man's agreement - and fried it for both of them to eat. In the early hours of the morning, Meiwes then killed his victim before chopping up the body parts and slowly eating them over several months. "With unprecedented and exclusive access to Meiwes in prison, the life history of the perperator, his background and the motives for his deed are illuminated for the first time," an RDF spokeswoman said. "In addition to the face-to-face interviews with Meiwes, the producers gained unique access to never seen footage from inside his house in Rotenburg, home videos, the crime scene and close friends of the victim." Five is expected to air the programme as part of a mini-season of three documentaries on cannibalism, which will also include Cannibal Superstar, about Japanese man Issei Sagawa, who murdered and ate his girlfriend and has since become a bizarre celebrity. The hour-long programme is made by independent production company Visual Voodoo.    




Gwynvyd -> RE: Vore (10/10/2007 10:48:52 AM)

*blinks* wow.... ya know I knew there were some realy freaky people out there.. and I know about snuff films and all.. but to willingly go to some ones house under the guise of wishing to be killed and eaten... now that takes guts. (bad pun.. I know... I know.. egads.. spank me later )

Meiwes had to so totaly remove his human emotions from the whole thing, not to mention queasyness while doing that. For those of you who have not been around a lot of dead human bodies it is not a pretty smell, sight, or picture. Esp. if there is much blood. Simply put we reek. Since he basicaly bled him out, and butchered him whilst on a meat hook (efficent at least I must say) it was the least messy of options but still human beings when dead reek. That amount of blood is a bitch kitty to deal with unless you would have the proper facilities. It says he had a room set up.. so I am not sure why they did not get him on premeditated murder. I guess Germany is more laxed on crimes like this. In the US he would be concidered a monster.. not a celebrity. Boggles the mind.

eww.. just ewww...

I dont mind dying for a good cause like my family, or freedom, or something I realy believe in.. but so some jackass can get his rocks off.. um hells no.

Gwyn




chellekitty -> RE: Vore (10/10/2007 11:14:42 AM)

ok...so, my second hand stories/fantasies on the subject......
i know a couple who i am friends with and he bit a chunk out of her boob....she proudly rubs the scar still....
and i've heard of a scene (from a guy who watched it happen) where a girl had her labia surgically removed and fed to her...
and then theres the one i want to do...where we each remove pieces of skin off eachother, then hand them to eachother and feed them to eachother...would be in a long term relationship...with someone who seriously wanted to do it for the right reason....and after being educated in doing it in the safest way possible....




Neala -> RE: Vore (10/10/2007 11:48:43 AM)

Wow, just..wow. This is incredibly interesting.

I'm curious as to what the young man's mental state was that he wanted to be slaughtered. Hm, things to ponder.




Najakcharmer -> RE: Vore (10/10/2007 11:51:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Gwynvyd
Meiwes had to so totaly remove his human emotions from the whole thing, not to mention queasyness while doing that. For those of you who have not been around a lot of dead human bodies it is not a pretty smell, sight, or picture. Esp. if there is much blood. Simply put we reek. Since he basicaly bled him out, and butchered him whilst on a meat hook (efficent at least I must say) it was the least messy of options but still human beings when dead reek. That amount of blood is a bitch kitty to deal with unless you would have the proper facilities.


Butchering is much less messy than most people think, if you're good at it and know exactly where to cut.  Some people think that the strong smell of guts and freshly exposed organs is unpleasant.  I think of it as a "food smell" and consider it quite appetizing unless the stomach or intestine is actually punctured, which makes the smell too sharp, acidic or fecal to be tasty.  Dealing with the blood is really not difficult if you make the cuts properly and position the carcass correctly. 

Never butchered a primate but I hear it tastes like "long pig".  [8D]




Gwynvyd -> RE: Vore (10/10/2007 12:30:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Gwynvyd
Meiwes had to so totaly remove his human emotions from the whole thing, not to mention queasyness while doing that. For those of you who have not been around a lot of dead human bodies it is not a pretty smell, sight, or picture. Esp. if there is much blood. Simply put we reek. Since he basicaly bled him out, and butchered him whilst on a meat hook (efficent at least I must say) it was the least messy of options but still human beings when dead reek. That amount of blood is a bitch kitty to deal with unless you would have the proper facilities.


Butchering is much less messy than most people think, if you're good at it and know exactly where to cut.  Some people think that the strong smell of guts and freshly exposed organs is unpleasant.  I think of it as a "food smell" and consider it quite appetizing unless the stomach or intestine is actually punctured, which makes the smell too sharp, acidic or fecal to be tasty.  Dealing with the blood is really not difficult if you make the cuts properly and position the carcass correctly. 

Never butchered a primate but I hear it tastes like "long pig".  [8D]



having hunted big game, and butchered and dressed it my self it can be easy if you know how.. however with the homicides I have seen with "butchering" most did not do it so methodicaly. It usualy looked quite messy to me. But then if they had been methodical then that would make them serial killers most likely. *shrugs*

your typical cut a body open kinda person doesnt have enough knowledge to not open up the bowels, or anything else they shouldnt. (goobers)

I gotta hook up with someone this fall who has a source of venison dang it.

Gwyn




gcarlos -> RE: Vore (10/10/2007 3:50:35 PM)

tayjon:

Not that this will help you....but Master and i went to the Museum of Sex in NYC over the weekend.  They have a Kink exhibit right now and they had a section on vore.  I found it very erotic...

--Master G's {girl}




Prinsexx -> RE: Vore (10/10/2007 4:03:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: gcarlos

tayjon:

Not that this will help you....but Master and i went to the Museum of Sex in NYC over the weekend.  They have a Kink exhibit right now and they had a section on vore.  I found it very erotic...

--Master G's {girl}


This got me thinking that we are just  far far too sanitised these days....I know post aids the whole aspect of blood has become the new taboo....
but i love fucking when menstuating and actually think it feels so much more connected and animal and instinctual......so if we are simply talking BLOOD as opposed to eating then that surely opens the discussion somewhat....
I want to be cut and licked also and yes I agree it has to be part of a LTM.....it would be hard to top the trust required to be cut and then to have a dominat lick at that........see it's got my mind working over time....





LadyLynx -> RE: Vore (10/10/2007 4:45:03 PM)

i have bit of a blood fetish as well, and would love to be cut (alittle.) and having someone lick the blood. mmmmm erotic




Gwynvyd -> RE: Vore (10/10/2007 7:29:10 PM)

I have to agree blood is the new *huge* taboo. I have a rather large blood fetish. I have all of my nessasary medical and sanitary equiptment to do blood play safely with a partner whom I have tested regularly... and whom I trust as much as they trust me.

My girl and I have been doing bloodletting for years now, and she simply loves it. How many people do you know are willing to bleed for thier submission? The reverance, and act of drinking from another the essence of what they are is very powerful. That in and of it's self carries a lot of energy. It is so much more personal then anything else I can think of. Especialy when it is shared both ways.
I buy scaples regularly, the kind in the one use sealed packages. Totaly sterile. A good knowledge of Greys Anatomy ( the book not the dumbassed show ) is a Dom/mes best tool IMO. There are tons of saftey tips. Best done in another thread. My poor slave saw the package of scaples in my nightstand, and I thought he was going to faint on me. They scare, but intrigue him. I suppose we shall see. [sm=evil.gif] 
I think the irrevocable damage of ripping and rendering flesh that will not grow back.. not to mention the consuming thereof is what trips me up with vore. It certainly isnt the blood.

As Prinsexx said when I am on my moon time I am insatiable ( like they can tell the differance) but actualy it is much much worse.. and that is the time when I not only want penitration.. but I seriously *Need* it. Someone will must fuck me now. ~Act like you are trying to go through to the other side of my body kinda hard. Pull my hair, bite me, claw me, growl, call me names.. do it all... but do it hard, fast, deep and forever.

Gwyn




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