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boy46 -> Formula 1 circus, not sport....lets read (10/11/2007 7:48:32 AM)



To denounce the irregularities which have taken place during the 2007 F1 championship
As witnesses of the events which have taken place during the 2007 F1 championship, and as admirers of this sport, we feel obliged to publicly denounce the irregularities which have occurred, clearly showing that the driver, L. Hamilton has benefited from the favors of his team, generating serious damages for his companion F. Alonso, whose career has suffered from the lack of interest of both his team and the International Federation of Automobile.
The proven facts and presumed irregularities are the following:
G.P. of Barhein (15-04-07) Strangely, F. Alonso’s car encountered troubles in night conditions, on a statement of his own team, which prevented him from following the rhythm of his companion, whose car was functioning perfectly. L. Hamilton changed his trajectory several times, which is absolutely prohibited, but he was not sanctioned.
G.P. of Monaco (27-05-07) A few laps from the end, the team ordered both drivers to go below 19.000 r.p.m. L. Hamilton, refused to obey his team and tried to overtake his companion. Not succeeding in doing so, he complained to the FIA and the British Media after the end of the race, provoking an investigation and a high pressure on F. Alonso. The team took no measure whatsoever towards L. Hamilton, and did not support F. Alonso. Moreover, during the race, L. Hamilton frequently stepped over the continuous line when exiting the pit lane, which is totally prohibited. But he was not sanctioned in any way by the FIA
G.P. of Canada (10-06-07) Strange behavior of F. Alonso’s car. Once more, the number one car was not in the same mechanical conditions than L. Hamilton’s car.
G.P. of the USA (17-06-07) Once more, the pit stop strategies were in favor of L. Hamilton and detrimental to F. Alonso.
G.P. of France (01-07-07) Strangely, before the rain forecast, F. Alonso faced problems with his gear case during Q3, ending up on the tenth position of the starting grid whereas his companion L. Hamilton encountered no problems at all. De La Rosa explained during the race that this spare part had been perfectly identified and removed.
G.P. of Germany (22-07-07) Peculiar reaction of the race controllers when facing L. Hamilton’s slip off the track, a crane put him back on the track, creating risks of collision with other pilots. Even more peculiar is that the other drivers were not placed back on the track regarding the moment they slipped off; only L. Hamilton benefitted from an immediate return on the track. Although the rules clearly specify that a driver must turn off his engine and get out of his car, like the rest of the drivers did, he was not penalised.
G.P. of Hungary (05-08-07) A supplementary lap was given to F. Alonso in Q3. L. Hamilton disobeying his team’s orders entered the boxes to change his tyres on his own will, right behind F. Alonso, who was given used tyres. The following moment, L. Hamilton was equipped with a brand new pair of tyres. Nevertheless, F. Alonso succeeded in earning the pole position, to the apparent disappointment of Ron Dennis. Thus, L. Hamilton denounced F. Alonso again to the FIA and, consequently, he lost 5 positions on the starting grid, following the application of an inexistent rule, and McLaren also lost its constructor points earned during this race. Unexplainably, no sanction was applied to L. Hamilton after this race.
G.P. of Italy (09-09-07) L. Hamilton placed his car diagonally when positioning himself on the starting grid, and made several trajectory changes without being sanctioned.
G.P. of Belgium (16-09-07) Presumed sabotage attempt on F. Alonso’s car. His manager declared that during the free practice sessions, F. Alonso discovered that something was wrong with his power unit, asking his mechanics to revise his car, and then discovering that the top of his oil tank was missing. It is common knowledge that it only needs a simple lap to destroy a motor in such conditions.
G.P. of Japan (30-07-07) Inexplicably, F. Alonso encountered new tyre problems during Q3, as he stated himself after the qualifications. Once more, L. Hamilton obtained a supplementary lap with new tyres and a small quantity of gas, permitting him to earn the pole position. During the race, both drivers were victims of a collision. However, only the driver who collisioned with L. Hamilton was sanctioned, whereas it was F. Alonso who suffered serious damage in his car. He was not warned of the damage on his car, which led him to crash without much reaction from the members of his team. After the accident, when behind the safety-car, L. Hamilton played once more with the rules, provoking an accident between Weber and Vettel, without being sanctioned during or after the race, even when new evidence was given to the FIA.
G.P. of China (06-10-07) Once more, F. Alonso encountered problems in Q3, after having been faster than his companion during the free practice sessions, and the first two qualifying sessions. When F. Alonso was on the podium to celebrate his second position, after L. Hamilton resigned, only one mechanic from McLaren was there to celebrate the victory. After the race, Ron Dennis publicly declared that the struggle during the race was not against Ferrari, but against F. Alonso, who is now considered by his team as an opponent.
Once these facts have been analyzed, we consider there is enough evidence to confirm that the equal treatment between the two drivers has not been respected by McLaren or by the FIA with the application of the Formula 1 rules.
Consequently, with the signatures located at:
http://www.petitiononline.com/fealonso/petition.html
we publicly denounce all these irregularities and express our deepest rejection of all that has happened during this 2007 F1 Championship.
All this information has been gathered by the Safety-car forum members at:
http://www.safety-car.net.
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sappatoti -> RE: Formula 1 circus, not sport....lets read (10/11/2007 8:03:40 AM)

Welcome to the world of automobile racing, dude. It's not just Formula 1 where these "conspiracies" or "inconsistencies" happen. ;)




seeksfemslave -> RE: Formula 1 ....lets read..italiano (10/11/2007 8:06:22 AM)

I reckon you are putting the "boot in" on L Hamilton. lol
In 4 languages too. Thats not the behaviour of  un esclavo, is it ?

Post in Japanese, then  we will all know that you feel "pissed off"




boy46 -> RE: Formula 1 ....lets read..italiano (10/11/2007 8:13:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

I reckon you are putting the "boot in" on L Hamilton. lol
In 4 languages too. Thats not the behaviour of  un esclavo, is it ?


LOL, no mate, am not putting anyone my foot on, only putting the things in its right place. Have nothing against Lewis H. but is not as good as Fernando,,,not still.
Besides, the thing that made this interest born in me was seeing Alonso living that mobbing situation. Yeah i know that someone that has a salary of 25 million $ his suffering will be less, i agree too, but is so public that i cant avoid feel uncomfortable with that. Arent you?




boy46 -> RE: Formula 1 circus, not sport....lets read (10/11/2007 8:30:19 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sappatoti

Welcome to the world of automobile racing, dude. It's not just Formula 1 where these "conspiracies" or "inconsistencies" happen. ;)


Yes, yes,,,so true. :)




FullCircle -> RE: Formula 1 circus, not sport....lets read (10/11/2007 12:24:18 PM)

I read you were from Spain in your profile and I didn’t bother to read anything else, thanks[:D]




meatcleaver -> RE: Formula 1 ....lets read..italiano (10/11/2007 12:27:40 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: boy46

quote:

ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

I reckon you are putting the "boot in" on L Hamilton. lol
In 4 languages too. Thats not the behaviour of  un esclavo, is it ?


LOL, no mate, am not putting anyone my foot on, only putting the things in its right place. Have nothing against Lewis H. but is not as good as Fernando,,,not still.
Besides, the thing that made this interest born in me was seeing Alonso living that mobbing situation. Yeah i know that someone that has a salary of 25 million $ his suffering will be less, i agree too, but is so public that i cant avoid feel uncomfortable with that. Arent you?



If Hamilton isn't as good as Alonso, why is Hamilton, a rookie at that, winning him and proving to be the better driver. You can't fiddle what you see on the track, Alonso is second best by far.




boy46 -> RE: Formula 1 ....lets read..italiano (10/11/2007 1:31:06 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

quote:

ORIGINAL: boy46

quote:

ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

I reckon you are putting the "boot in" on L Hamilton. lol
In 4 languages too. Thats not the behaviour of  un esclavo, is it ?


LOL, no mate, am not putting anyone my foot on, only putting the things in its right place. Have nothing against Lewis H. but is not as good as Fernando,,,not still.
Besides, the thing that made this interest born in me was seeing Alonso living that mobbing situation. Yeah i know that someone that has a salary of 25 million $ his suffering will be less, i agree too, but is so public that i cant avoid feel uncomfortable with that. Arent you?



If Hamilton isn't as good as Alonso, why is Hamilton, a rookie at that, winning him and proving to be the better driver. You can't fiddle what you see on the track, Alonso is second best by far.


You only have been posted here. Its not a misterious that the McLaren car has been adjusted by Alonso, Hamilton is a good driver, as many in the race that with that car would win time to time some GP. But when have you seen a rockie with the best car of the race?. Hamilton have been prefixed, long time ago, to be the next english World Championship. I can understand that is a pleasure have a champion of your country. All like it. But with fair play, not impossing at all chances one pilot. I know this isnt a problem of british or spanish people, but a problem among two persons, Alonso and the one that lied him to go to a team (the one he admired in his chilhood) that will help him to fight for the championship. He was just came from wining the championship with a renault against Schumacher with a Ferrari. McLaren was seven years without wining a World Championship till this year. No doubt Lewis is a superb driver, and so good that can be made champion with Alonsto in the same team. But how? Controlling Alonso quality with little (no need for more in this "sport") details preparing and handling his car and , more important, with the strategies on the race and qualyfing training times. On the other side the kind of mobbing he is suffering rises a high personal risk: He hadnt been informed of his car damage the day that had the accident
But perhaps this is a cronic situation, and F1 its only a show that goes around the countries as the big busniss that is.
So, we will see the next race at Brasil, Lewis has 4 points more than Alonso. It is a very hard diference in the last race of the year, but there is a certain piece of lucky in the races, the same as in the life.
be well :)





boy46 -> RE: Formula 1 ....lets read..italiano (10/11/2007 1:35:30 PM)

Wonder what will happens the next year if they are in diferent teams. That could be nice.
:)




seeksfemslave -> RE: Formula 1 ....lets read..italiano (10/11/2007 3:37:21 PM)

Boy46: its obvious to me that your Mistress is allowing you too much freedom lol
If she doesn't beat your arse I will .




boy46 -> RE: Formula 1 ....lets read..italiano (10/11/2007 6:40:05 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

Boy46: its obvious to me that your Mistress is allowing you too much freedom lol
If she doesn't beat your arse I will .


Sorry, Sir :)




completenz -> RE: Formula 1 ....lets read..italiano (10/11/2007 11:51:22 PM)

Well you have done a lot research, thank god the spanish inquisition has passed lol.
Why is it that whenever Alonso gets under pressure he starts to make mistakes and fall off the track?
And why the hell would Mclaren spend the silly money they did for Alonso and then nobble him?
I just think that Lewis is a much better driver, and Alonso cant deal with it.
Cheers C




CollegeConundrum -> RE: Formula 1 ....lets read..italiano (10/21/2007 4:12:40 PM)

Well Hamilton made up for it, himself, by pissing away the championship today.




Politesub53 -> RE: Formula 1 ....lets read..italiano (10/21/2007 4:24:17 PM)

Maybe not...... It seems there has been a little fuel tampering going on.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7055644.stm




Raechard -> RE: Formula 1 ....lets read..italiano (10/21/2007 4:29:18 PM)

[:D]The things they take account of.

It’s no way to win a championship this if it is decided the Williams and BMW should be penalised.

Part of me wishes that for the sake of the sport they’d just ignore things like this because this is what ruins its credibility most: things being decided off of the track rather than on it.





Politesub53 -> RE: Formula 1 ....lets read..italiano (10/21/2007 5:10:10 PM)

Whatever else hamilton has had a great first season, i agree the title should be decided on the track rather than off though. I think with Alonso its just sour grapes, i cant recall the guys name, but on a previous team the second driver normally qualified in a faster time than Alonso.




boy46 -> RE: Formula 1 ....lets read..italiano (10/22/2007 10:36:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Whatever else hamilton has had a great first season, i agree the title should be decided on the track rather than off though. I think with Alonso its just sour grapes, i cant recall the guys name, but on a previous team the second driver normally qualified in a faster time than Alonso.


Alonso would be the champion from the midle of the championship if his own mate woulldnt have reporterd maFIA in Hungry and that wouldnt let his own team without points for that race...not talking about the points of 5 positions in the exit (a lot more points). The mistake was made for McLaren, not Hamilton. Lewis is very joung still, its a ,,,,rocky. He made two serious mistakes and pay for it. The best driver on the F1 is Alonso, all people knows it. And the evidence of the results talks about it.
good luck the next year...




boy46 -> RE: Formula 1 ....lets read..italiano (10/22/2007 10:38:04 PM)

Anyway,,,congratuations Kimi!!! ,,,,,, He deserves the champioship... and mainly Ferrari. They worked like a true team!!!
:)




boy46 -> RE: Formula 1 ....lets read..italiano (10/22/2007 10:40:54 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Raechard

[:D]The things they take account of.

It’s no way to win a championship this if it is decided the Williams and BMW should be penalised.

Part of me wishes that for the sake of the sport they’d just ignore things like this because this is what ruins its credibility most: things being decided off of the track rather than on it.




Yes i agree. Too much intervention of maFIA in the races.... and very poor balance among the teams favouritism,,,, clearly shows their preference,,,
:)




boy46 -> RE: Formula 1 ....lets read..italiano (10/23/2007 6:25:41 AM)

On other side, Ron Denis is a clear case of "toxic boss"... everyone had one.. you know, that person with responsabilties in a team that has other personal targets than the well being and the good work of their people. That saying "we dont fight against Kimi, but against Fernando..."
So he probably is happy with this results!!! Awesome!




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