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Celeste43 -> RE: Mental Bondage (10/12/2007 5:31:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: laurell3

Yup and it's a hell of a lot more difficult this way, although incredibly hot in my opinion.



Although for a bondage bottom, it's just uncomfortable. He's done it to me occasionally and I get irritated, the total opposite of deeper in submission. Depends how the sub is wired, I guess.



Sabella -> RE: Mental Bondage (10/12/2007 7:26:37 AM)

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Yes that is what I've always known it to mean. I have to say that this is my favorite form of play and it allows me to really get in touch with my core submission. When there are no restraints to keep you there, when your body is screaming at you to withdraw....you really have to go deep inside yourself to find the motivations that drive you to submit and use those to override your body's natural instincts of self preservation. To me, it's submission in it's most raw form.
It's my favourite too. I love the challenge of it. Quite often when it reaches the "I can't bear this any longer" I hit a point of fury and have to wrestle it down - the release and strength on the other side of this barrier is incredibly intense. It culminates not with a whimper, but a roar - I feel invincible yet flung wide, like a stretch of ocean water with an unseen current.




Kana -> RE: Mental Bondage (10/12/2007 7:46:51 AM)

This is the heart of D/S to me. The things that we use to bind their bodies are just physical manifestations of the ties that we place in their minds. Domination and submission lie inside and the inner journey is where the struggle, and the triumph, occur.



SixFootMaster -> RE: Mental Bondage (10/12/2007 2:51:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Kana

This is the heart of D/S to me. The things that we use to bind their bodies are just physical manifestations of the ties that we place in their minds. Domination and submission lie inside and the inner journey is where the struggle, and the triumph, occur.


Exactly, and the journey is incredible. A quote comes to my mind "Oh my god! It's full of stars!"



Kellendra -> RE: Mental Bondage (10/12/2007 7:41:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross



Forget cumming on command- how about making a woman REALLY feel good and believe it when she is given a compliment about how she looks?  That's a real challenge.


Amen to that.



stylish -> RE: Mental Bondage (10/12/2007 11:02:02 PM)

I also want to point out for the OP that mental bondage need not always be used in terms of "tying someone up" while punishing him/her.  You can also use mental bondage in the following ways:

-mentally "restraining" your sub can be used for punishment, but also for pleasure.  You can tell the sub to act as though his/her hands/wrists/whatever is tied to bed/chair/whatever during sex or while giving some other kind of pleasure.  This may be pleasurably torturous to your sub who may be dying to touch his/her Dom during this ecstasy for various reasons.
-ordering your sub to keep his/her eyes closed is a form of mental bondage in that he/she remains blind without the use of a blindfold
-same can be said by telling your sub to keep his/her mouth shut and not make any noise without requiring the use of a gag
-making a sub walk around with hands clasped behind his/her back as though he/she was handcuffed for an extended period of time is mental bondage, even though it is not necessarily being used during a sexual scene

Anyways, these are just a couple of points to think about.  Hopefully they will help give you ideas as to how you can use mental bondage in the future.

If you are interested on conditioning as well, have you read about Pavlov's dogs?  Because I find that example to be the best way to summarize conditioning in a D/s relationship.



PryderiLoup -> RE: Mental Bondage (10/13/2007 4:35:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: stylish

I also want to point out for the OP that mental bondage need not always be used in terms of "tying someone up" while punishing him/her.  You can also use mental bondage in the following ways:

-mentally "restraining" your sub can be used for punishment, but also for pleasure.  You can tell the sub to act as though his/her hands/wrists/whatever is tied to bed/chair/whatever during sex or while giving some other kind of pleasure.  This may be pleasurably torturous to your sub who may be dying to touch his/her Dom during this ecstasy for various reasons.
-ordering your sub to keep his/her eyes closed is a form of mental bondage in that he/she remains blind without the use of a blindfold
-same can be said by telling your sub to keep his/her mouth shut and not make any noise without requiring the use of a gag
-making a sub walk around with hands clasped behind his/her back as though he/she was handcuffed for an extended period of time is mental bondage, even though it is not necessarily being used during a sexual scene

Anyways, these are just a couple of points to think about.  Hopefully they will help give you ideas as to how you can use mental bondage in the future.

If you are interested on conditioning as well, have you read about Pavlov's dogs?  Because I find that example to be the best way to summarize conditioning in a D/s relationship.



Thanks. This was very helpful, as were a ot of the posts. I have done a couple of these things, but never thought about it as "Mental Bondage". Like ucky Albatross said, a lot of times we just add new terms to old kinks.



PryderiLoup -> RE: Mental Bondage (10/13/2007 4:43:00 AM)

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When there are no restraints to keep you there, when your body is screaming at you to withdraw....you really have to go deep inside yourself to find the motivations that drive you to submit and use those to override your body's natural instincts of self preservation. To me, it's submission in it's most raw form.


I plan on using this next weekend on a sub that is very new to D/s. She loves to have her limits pushed (gently) and loves to try new things. She loves physical bondage, and whenever we scene without restraints, she tries to cover up.

This will be a real chalenge for her, and one that I think she is ready for, if I can prepare her properly for what she will be feeling. I assume that she will be going through a range of emotions, some positive, others scary, as well as desires?

Can you help me help her? What, if anything, do I tell her to expect?

Thanks



TreasureKY -> RE: Mental Bondage (10/13/2007 5:10:23 AM)

Try binding with a single strand of sewing thread with the requirement that it must not be broken.  [;)]



Aileen68 -> RE: Mental Bondage (10/13/2007 5:44:46 AM)

Mental bondage is perfect for all of those online only relationships.  [:D]
But seriously...I think of it as being controlled purely through specific instructions such as maintaining certain positions without being bound.



mnottertail -> RE: Mental Bondage (10/13/2007 5:47:42 AM)

You want mental bondage? I am gonna tie a hairnet on your head and own your brain, girlie.

Ron



PryderiLoup -> RE: Mental Bondage (10/14/2007 6:56:56 PM)

I am bumping this to see if I can get my question some airtime!

Thanks



BlueAngelEyes411 -> RE: Mental Bondage (10/14/2007 7:13:41 PM)

I'm going to show my ignorance here but, is it really even possible to cum on command?



PryderiLoup -> RE: Mental Bondage (10/14/2007 8:13:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BlueAngelEyes411

I'm going to show my ignorance here but, is it really even possible to cum on command?


My last sub was very willing to do this, so it was easy. I think if a person does not want to, it won't happen, even if she tries to please her dom. But if she does, it can be a lot of fun.



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