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sweetcreeangel -> So dont want to be a good girl no more (10/12/2007 9:14:42 PM)

is it normal to want to rebel,yell kick and scream or just throw a plain old tantrum if so does any Master out there have any suggestions on how to remain being that good girl who are known to be or better yet how to bring out the naughty side you want to bring out soooooooooo much?




laurell3 -> RE: So dont want to be a good girl no more (10/12/2007 9:17:53 PM)

How does your partner feel about it?  Some like the "stuggling sub" or SAM, others really do not.  Like all things, it's a matter of what two people desire from each other.
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sweetcreeangel -> RE: So dont want to be a good girl no more (10/12/2007 9:19:23 PM)

i no longer have a partner laurell this is why i wish to rebel W/we broke up and i feel lost and think that if i had maybe been more good or naughty for Him W/we would have stayed together *sighs*




laurell3 -> RE: So dont want to be a good girl no more (10/12/2007 9:20:47 PM)

Let it go.  You can't change the past.  Beating yourself up about it won't help.  Hang out and learn and then when you're ready, try again. I'm sorry about the breakup though.

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sweetcreeangel -> RE: So dont want to be a good girl no more (10/12/2007 9:24:02 PM)

thank-you as am i,*nods* yes i know i have to let it go and am slowly doing that one day at a time thank-you for advice though much appericated
be well




laurell3 -> RE: So dont want to be a good girl no more (10/12/2007 9:27:19 PM)

Chocolate helps, although the one thing I've found really helps me process grief faster is strenuous exercise, which in turn helps with the chocolate.

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sweetcreeangel -> RE: So dont want to be a good girl no more (10/12/2007 9:29:40 PM)

*grins* i love chocolate and is thinking of going and getting some thanks again




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: So dont want to be a good girl no more (10/12/2007 10:11:07 PM)

I think you're still on the frenzy roller coaster.  Slow it down.  Get some perspective.

Most subs need about a year before they calm down enough to really "get into submission."  Not that they don't get it before then, or enjoy it, but when you spend most of your growing life NOT being in secure relationships, NOT being with people who are actively dominant, NOT just letting go- well it's not like falling off a log. 

Learning HOW to relax, learning HOW to just be calm, secure, happy, some might say "boring" is an essential skill, specially as a submissive.  Learning how to surrender is a big piece of the puzzle.  It doesn't get discussed often because everyone's too busy making it into some fantastical ideal, crying over how they aren't reaching it...and just generally making it a big dramatic mess as a distraction from the fact that they aren't actually SURRENDERING at all- not to their doms, not to their sense of self, and certainly not to admitting they honestly need to take a chill pill.

Some people are worse than others- but if you take the time to really examine what you want, really focus and deal with yourself on your terms, really use good judgement and find a secure path in life, you can teach yourself how to surrender- completely.




sweetcreeangel -> RE: So dont want to be a good girl no more (10/13/2007 7:55:16 AM)

thank-you all for the advice




Celeste43 -> RE: So dont want to be a good girl no more (10/13/2007 8:39:12 AM)

Instead of wishing you had changed, that you had not played the role of a good girl, or conversely had not rebelled enough to keep his interest try finding someone who likes you just the way you are. Someone who doesn't want to change you, someone who just thinks your brand of submissiveness is fabulous and you're just what he's been looking for. Don't be like Cinderella's stepsisters cutting off their toes to fit into the slipper, just be with the person you fit as is.

It's sad that your ex wasn't the right one. Take time grieving the death of the dream and figure out what makes a man the right one for you. I find that the more you know of what you do and don't need, the easier it is to discover early on if you're talking to someone you might have a future with instead of those with whom a relationship is doomed to fail.




DMFParadox -> RE: So dont want to be a good girl no more (10/13/2007 2:20:43 PM)

I'm tempted to view this as an personals ad.  The woman you say you are is so close to my personal ideal--submissive and fiery at the same time--that it's hard to see this as a question that needs answering.

Too bad you're Canadian.  ^_^




Hergirl0824 -> RE: So dont want to be a good girl no more (10/13/2007 2:49:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

I think you're still on the frenzy roller coaster.  Slow it down.  Get some perspective.

Most subs need about a year before they calm down enough to really "get into submission."  Not that they don't get it before then, or enjoy it, but when you spend most of your growing life NOT being in secure relationships, NOT being with people who are actively dominant, NOT just letting go- well it's not like falling off a log. 

Learning HOW to relax, learning HOW to just be calm, secure, happy, some might say "boring" is an essential skill, specially as a submissive.  Learning how to surrender is a big piece of the puzzle.  It doesn't get discussed often because everyone's too busy making it into some fantastical ideal, crying over how they aren't reaching it...and just generally making it a big dramatic mess as a distraction from the fact that they aren't actually SURRENDERING at all- not to their doms, not to their sense of self, and certainly not to admitting they honestly need to take a chill pill.

Some people are worse than others- but if you take the time to really examine what you want, really focus and deal with yourself on your terms, really use good judgement and find a secure path in life, you can teach yourself how to surrender- completely.


Thank you so much for saying this..As a brand new sub this is the best piece of advice that i have read anywhere.




phoenixinchains -> RE: So dont want to be a good girl no more (10/15/2007 4:12:04 AM)





  i play fight with my Mate. i bite, slap, kick, scratch, and my Mate is ammused at my attempts to challenge Him. of corse, should He tire of it, it stops, normally with a hard bite to my neck.  docile as a kitten i go in no time flat. 
but i don't think you have to turn in your sub-papers[:)] feeling a need to fight back is just a part of the human-animal. submitting makes your heart race and all your sences go fritzy, i bet rebellion isn't the oddest feeling to ever come out of sub-space.
hope this helps- phoenix






Focus50 -> RE: So dont want to be a good girl no more (10/15/2007 11:30:48 PM)

D/s is a dynamic of *two* complementing opposites (Dom & sub) so, no, you can't do it all by being a "good girl" when you clearly have the urge to rebel.  When subs get bratty, it's usually a case of testing boundaries; that maybe Master hasn't been on top of things as he should.  It happens occasionally, so I'd qualify it as "normal". 
 
If my girl is misbehaving a bit too much, I don't just default to the easy option of blaming her for it, even though I generally hold her to be accountable for her actions.  There's a msg in her being too bratty; esp because the average sub isn't inherently "bad"....  D/s is a *dynamic* of Dom controlling sub, so I also reflect on my actions (or inactions) that may have contributed to this abnormal behaviour!  A sub's tantrum can be a cry for help, for eg?
 
Focus.




littlebitxxx -> RE: So dont want to be a good girl no more (10/16/2007 4:42:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sweetcreeangel

is it normal to want to rebel,yell kick and scream or just throw a plain old tantrum if so does any Master out there have any suggestions on how to remain being that good girl who are known to be or better yet how to bring out the naughty side you want to bring out soooooooooo much?


Hugs to ya, angel.  I'm sorry about your breakup but all the woulda shoulda coulda 's in the world won't help, except to give you a headache.  Maybe just step back a little, go inside for awhile and figure out who you are.  If you are a "good girl", be a good girl.  If you are a SAM, be a SAM.  Be whoever you are comfortable being.  There is someone out there looking for exactly who you really are.  And you'll just know when he finds you.




Sabella -> RE: So dont want to be a good girl no more (10/16/2007 5:12:46 AM)

I think if you feel the genuine need to throw a fit from time to time then yes it's normal - you're trying to express something that perhaps you can't wrap words around.

Some people have a hard time discussing or expressing valid feelings & frustrations. Sometimes just writing it down is helpful when you can't get anything to come out of your mouth. Journaling & maybe beating the hell out of something or taking up some vigorous exercise can help release some energy. Don't beat YOURSELF up tho, and assume the reason it didn't work was 100% your fault. Perfectly great people aren't always compatible, y'know? let it go.

Also take some time to do something that makes you happy, a lil self care goes a long way.




Sheetal -> RE: So dont want to be a good girl no more (10/16/2007 5:26:53 AM)

New Slave in Collar me




Sheetal -> RE: So dont want to be a good girl no more (10/16/2007 5:29:00 AM)

want to be collared and USED




Sabella -> RE: So dont want to be a good girl no more (10/16/2007 5:32:07 AM)

Great! Go fetch me some coffee & clean the catbox. Then you can get started on the yard.




littlebitxxx -> RE: So dont want to be a good girl no more (10/16/2007 7:03:25 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sheetal

New Slave in Collar me


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