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mnottertail -> RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master (10/15/2007 11:40:37 AM)

What gave it away?  The spongeBobs?



MasterA56 -> RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master (10/15/2007 11:43:03 AM)

I understand and appreciate your response.

My approach in communicating with potential subs/slaves has been based on previous experience and advice from other Dom/Masters and subs/slaves (expressing what they expect to 'see' and 'hear' from a desirable Dom/Master).

I am no stranger to the internet or to cyber communications.  The major 'gap' when attempting to communicate via IM and email is the 'personal' factor.  It is next to impossible to create understanding with the inflection and mannerism normally associated with visual and audible communication.  In this particular community, I have realized it is even more difficult because of the level of trust and safety needed to create the necessary comfort required for honest, open discussion.

My responses to some comments have been defensive.  I did not realize this forum would be used for personal attacks.  Constructive criticism is always welcome and when I receive it, I am appreciative.



MasterA56 -> RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master (10/15/2007 11:44:52 AM)

Thank you, DV, I really appreciate your comments.  I will definitely make some changes.



came4U -> RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master (10/15/2007 11:47:21 AM)

I'm no master, but I have been on the other side of the fence.  I have been freaked out or turned off of someone being either too fast or too creepy and I ran like the wind.  I owe no more explaination except that it wouldn't workout and goodbye.  Simple. If I am called a 'fake' for that..fine with me, I don't care.  I would rather be called a fake than be in a relationship with boundaries that make ME uncomfortable.  That would be fake indeed. Imagine pretending to enjoy someone's company so they don't think you are a fake. HA, not for a second.

edit to add: just because someone is a Master it doesn't mean I/we are automatically 'obligated' to fall for you. Many flutter about for years before making a choice.  Would you rather you find that out later after you have invested in such submissive?  Perhaps move her to you? Absorb time and money and emotions that go beyond months and even years?  Be glad that it is done and over within these early 'internet' stages and take it all with a gain of salt.  Being all 'down' on the concept of the search only makes you bitter...bitter like MOI! lol 



MasterA56 -> RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master (10/15/2007 11:48:26 AM)

I appreciate your comments and it is always interesting to get differing view points.

Thank you!



sweetNsmartBBW -> RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master (10/15/2007 11:50:43 AM)

"My approach in communicating with potential subs/slaves has been based on previous experience and advice from other Dom/Masters and subs/slaves (expressing what they expect to 'see' and 'hear' from a desirable Dom/Master)."

And, especially at the onset, I can see where a person would want such advice.  However, the best advice I ever got was "Just be Yourself".  Especially if what You are looking for is to lead to r/t eventually; otherwise, the relationship is basically doomed from the start.    Only You can define the type of Master You are, or will become- and You need to be true to Yourself- saying the truth in Your Own words, Your Own way- not saying what You think potential subs want to hear.

I wish You the best of luck in Your search *s*...and hope that things turn around for You on here.



MasterA56 -> RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master (10/15/2007 11:54:04 AM)

Thank you, Bearlee, again I appreciate your comments.

No, I would never demand submission by mail. In fact, I don't 'demand' anything...I ask.

As far as my profile...I just removed everything that was there as a result of the feedback I have received from this topic. I have no idea what I will put there now...but until I figure that out, I just want a potential sub/slave to know they can ask me whatever questions they have.  Since I have been accused of being too forward, agressive and intimidating, I put the ball in their court and let them ask whatever they want to know about me.

It's what Eleanor Roosevelt said: "Do what you feel in your heart to be right - for you'll be criticized anyway. You'll be damned if you do, and damned if you don't."



Bearlee -> RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master (10/15/2007 11:58:59 AM)

 
Well, Sir...I'm sorry you're getting all this bashing.  For some reason some people are being really snarkey here.  I wonder if there's a full moon or something?
 
Good luck... I hope we haven't run you off.
beverly



MasterA56 -> RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master (10/15/2007 12:03:36 PM)

They are NOT "Spongebobs"....and they are GONE! 



DarkDaddyZ -> RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master (10/15/2007 12:04:02 PM)

One of the posters mentioned being strong and independent.  Personally I wouldn't be interested in someone who isn't.  I need one that can live independent but desires to submit.
Master A56: Your thread has brought a lot of people who gave you some great advice.  Just know that the boards are a good place to learn more about people in power exchange relationships, people who are interested in learning more about power exchange relationships, people who just want to get off and people who just want entertainment.  Take a step back and learn about those people as well as decide what you are looking for and take your time.  The possiblities are endless!

Good Luck,
DDZ-



MissMagnolia -> RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master (10/15/2007 12:07:39 PM)

I'm just here to hand out the happy pills to the grumble bums. Double helpings for some posters, methinks.[8|]



AquaticSub -> RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master (10/15/2007 12:11:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterA56

In my case, Bearlee, I am refering to those subs/slaves who "flee"...they get freaked out and just plain leave. As I mentioned, they either delete their profile (which I find a bit humorous), or they stop responding (which I find extremely rude and ignores a very basic rule of respect for any Master, regardless if they own the sub/slave or not).

It seems there are many sub/slaves who are here because they realize there is a deep-rooted desire within themselves, yet they cannot summon the courage to act on it. I realize this is a dichotomy within each person and acting on the desire for domination means they must FIND the courage...which is a contradiction in itself.



I must be fake. Your title of master gets you zero automatic respect from me.

Getting freaked out and fleeing is hardly mark of a fake - just someone who isn't ready to jump in. It's annoying and it's frustrating but so are many masters.



KatyLied -> RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master (10/15/2007 12:12:04 PM)

What did I miss?  spongebob boxers?  spongebox picture?  Is a "view full profile" necessary for the answer?



Celeste43 -> RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master (10/15/2007 12:12:47 PM)

Just because they're submissive doesn't mean they want to be your submissive.

The only constant in all your relationships is you. If every woman you talk to, turns and runs then it's time for some soul searching as to what you're doing to drive them off.



AquaticSub -> RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master (10/15/2007 12:14:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterA56

TRUST is earned.

RESPECT is a given...always...universally...for everyone!!



You get the bare minimium of respect I give any living being, be they slave, master, vanilla, liar or honest. You get no extra respect for being a dominant or master until you show me you have something worth respecting.



MasterA56 -> RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master (10/15/2007 12:18:33 PM)

Thank you, MM, you got here just in time!!  LOL!



MasterA56 -> RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master (10/15/2007 12:19:58 PM)

Most women I talk with ask me: "Why are you gay?"  



MasterA56 -> RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master (10/15/2007 12:24:56 PM)

Just for clarification, I have NEVER, nor would I EVER ask for any "extra" respect...the same 'ol respect that is doled out to the masses is all I need.

Specifically in your case, thankfully, I don't want or need your particular brand of respect.  YIKES!...and BBrrrrrrrrr...kinda cold all of a sudden. 



EbonyPhoenix68 -> RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master (10/15/2007 12:32:14 PM)

[sm=crop.gif]All I can say are these  two simple statements:[sm=whip.gif]
 
1) Been there, done that.
 
2) If it's not real time, it's not a relationship.



toservez -> RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master (10/15/2007 12:35:45 PM)

You have to understand that you do not write people in a vacuum. Most who you have written have had the distinct pleasure of being called a fake. Then to go on a message board and write 99.9% on the other side are fake is basically calling everyone a fake that is on here, hence people’s attitudes to this thread.

The problem is when people like you use the word “respect” it is a loaded word. People often use it on the other side as a one way order to try to make the other person talk and consider them. I might point out wanting respect and then calling 99.9% people fake is in itself not very respectful.

I do not know if in your profile or your messages you state let alone harp on the word, but in actual good faith I am telling you to do so is a mistake as the word is a coded word like discrete equals married. When someone writes or puts in their profile about respect for many it is an automatic strike one. Does not matter your intention or definition, our reality is our perception.




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