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RP Pets can not speak to unsafe Dom - 10/16/2007 4:09:11 PM   
bbrent0


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What can a sub, who is role playing as a pet who can't speak, refrain from doing unsafe things a Master wants without getting whipped?
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RE: RP Pets can not speak to unsafe Dom - 10/16/2007 4:12:25 PM   
chellekitty


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stop roleplaying

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RE: RP Pets can not speak to unsafe Dom - 10/16/2007 4:32:58 PM   
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I am not trying to be insulting, so please don't take it so. This is the kind of question that makes me think you need a little more experiance with someone you trust.

If you need to ask this question, and I am glad you did, you need to think a little harder about setting limits and boundries. No matter whatkind of submissive you are, you have the right to be safe.

The short answer is Yes, because it violates safe sane and consentual. Find someone you trust, and go slower.

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RE: RP Pets can not speak to unsafe Dom - 10/16/2007 4:35:13 PM   
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He's using the scene to get around you "safewording". Call him on his bullshit tactic. And if he proceeds to do it anyway, get up and walk out.

< Message edited by MrDiscipline44 -- 10/16/2007 5:34:32 PM >


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RE: RP Pets can not speak to unsafe Dom - 10/16/2007 4:59:45 PM   
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If you can't trust him to not ask for unsafe things, you probably shouldn't be doing this type of thing around him.

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RE: RP Pets can not speak to unsafe Dom - 10/16/2007 5:09:15 PM   
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Negotiate ahead of time as to what you will and won't do. If he goes beyond what you agreed on, stand up yelling RED, and walk out. Personally I wouldn't see him even one time after he deliberately broke my limits unless this was something you hadn't discussed. However, if you are upset enough to need to stop play, he has no right to inflict punishment. Instead he has the responsibility, if he's a responsible dominant, to listen to you and talk about what he meant, and to apologise for hurting you.

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RE: RP Pets can not speak to unsafe Dom - 10/16/2007 5:13:21 PM   
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Meow three times as a safeword? If not then just end the scene.

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RE: RP Pets can not speak to unsafe Dom - 10/16/2007 8:05:25 PM   
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Speech restrictions should not apply to safewords or safety issues in my opinion.  The fact that you've characterised this Dom as "unsafe" means you probably already have answered your own question.
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RE: RP Pets can not speak to unsafe Dom - 10/16/2007 8:22:19 PM   
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Sounds like a no-brainer to me..A sub once told me that if she was gagged, and if things were a little too intense for her, she would pinch me twice..thankfully it never became an issue, but bottom line, if your Dom is trying to do unsafe things to you, and he's not respecting your limits, you may want to either have a serious talk, or find a new Dom who you can trust not to do that..

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RE: RP Pets can not speak to unsafe Dom - 10/16/2007 8:32:07 PM   
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In ANY scene I've EVER done with speech restrictions, I ALWAYS remind My sub that safe words are ALWAYS available.

The only exception is breath play / drowning where safe "words" are not easily available. Here I instruct the sub with a very simple physical safe "word" which is really a "safe action" . For instance I'll have her hold onto My arm (I need both of my hands after all) and at the SLIGHTEST squeeze all play stops immediately, there is no room for a distinction between yellow and red here. This is of course on top of VERY careful monitoring. Usually I'm holding My breath with her (though I'm pretty good at it so I NEVER rely on that.

I've heard of some people doing breath play and including a "struggle" as part of it. I'm either not that daring or not that careless...

DON'T try this at home kids...

Christopher

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RE: RP Pets can not speak to unsafe Dom - 10/16/2007 8:32:34 PM   
Estring


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You aren't really a pet. Speak up.

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RE: RP Pets can not speak to unsafe Dom - 10/16/2007 8:44:42 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MrDiscipline44

He's using the scene to get around you "safewording". Call him on his bullshit tactic. And if he proceeds to do it anyway, get up and walk out.
WOW!..I agree with Mr.D!... OY!!!..Tempting

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RE: RP Pets can not speak to unsafe Dom - 10/17/2007 2:18:11 AM   
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~FR~

Himself and I dropped off the dog at the groomer on Saturday for his bath, ear cleaning and what not. We went shopping then out to dinner and within 30 mins of eating, it was clear that I had food poisoning. Normally, when we go pick up the dog, I'm the one who runs in, pays the fee, takes him to the grass for a pee before bringing him back to the car. Because I was ill, Himself went in for the dog and when they got outside the dog promptly peed on the shoes of Himself, clearly demonstrating his disapproval of the change in habit .. all with out speaking and without getting whipped.

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RE: RP Pets can not speak to unsafe Dom - 10/17/2007 5:44:22 AM   
gentlestarZR


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i wouldnt ever want to RP that .. i dont have safe words anyways i trust and love my Master very much and even trying to RP an unsafe Dom i think would be creepy .. i would never want to associate Master with being unsafe ..

it doesnt sound like a fun game to me .. so i think you should talk to him about this and set rules he  cant break during play and if he does .. leave .. you dont have to be walked all over because your a submissive.. and dont do anything you dont want to do.. unsafe has no buisness even being in a scene .. my take on it atleast 

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RE: RP Pets can not speak to unsafe Dom - 10/17/2007 6:01:08 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: TemptingNviceSub

quote:

ORIGINAL: MrDiscipline44

He's using the scene to get around you "safewording". Call him on his bullshit tactic. And if he proceeds to do it anyway, get up and walk out.
WOW!..I agree with Mr.D!... OY!!!..Tempting
Becareful, that seems to be going around lately. I suggest you wear a mask for a while so you don't spread it to others. Next thing you know people'll start liking me around here.

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RE: RP Pets can not speak to unsafe Dom - 10/17/2007 8:52:12 AM   
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Agrees with Pryderloup on this one. Why wasnt limitations set before you started to RP? Putting your safety first should be his no 1 rule. His lack of respect for you is evident. If you discuss your limitations and safewords and it happens again, bite the bastard, then haul ass.

Peace to you

elle

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RE: RP Pets can not speak to unsafe Dom - 10/17/2007 8:52:44 AM   
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Role play shitting in his shoes as a safeword-no whipping allowed for safewording-or you get to whip him.

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RE: RP Pets can not speak to unsafe Dom - 10/17/2007 8:57:51 AM   
slaveelle


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Well crap, that sure made me laugh RR.

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RE: RP Pets can not speak to unsafe Dom - 10/17/2007 9:06:27 AM   
RRafe


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ORIGINAL: slaveelle

Well crap, that sure made me laugh RR.


I tend to associate with fairly self assertive women elle. Who would DO stuff like that if you were stupid enough to ignore a safeword-or play games like the nincompoop dom in the example. You gotta sleep SOMETIME-best to do the right thing.

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RE: RP Pets can not speak to unsafe Dom - 10/17/2007 6:53:35 PM   
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bbrent,

ditto to the comments above. Just set up a limit!

CP

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