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Raechard -> RE: Loud Motorcycles (10/20/2007 3:38:05 PM)

It’s definitely and approach that’s for sure.[:D]




RapierFugue -> RE: Loud Motorcycles (10/20/2007 3:38:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RapierFugue

COMES



“Come”
 
Excuse me.  It's late, we've lost the Rugby World Cup, and appear to have drunk 2 bottles of champagne and 3/4 of a bottle of Kahlua.
 
It's not easy being me, you know.




Raechard -> RE: Loud Motorcycles (10/20/2007 3:41:56 PM)

I had a feeling we’d loose I have this feeling Hamilton will have his worst race this season tomorrow also. I’m a pessimist in that respect.




RapierFugue -> RE: Loud Motorcycles (10/20/2007 3:47:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Raechard

I had a feeling we’d loose I have this feeling Hamilton will have his worst race this season tomorrow also. I’m a pessimist in that respect.


Considering that, at the start of the tournament, I thought we’d be lucky to make it through the opening ceremony without dying on our arses, I think England did very well.
 
But SA were the better side tonight, though not by much.
 
I don’t watch F1 anymore; too boring and processional; I watch Moto GP, WSB, BSB instead.  Much more like it.  My problem with F1 is, I grew up watching the likes of Hunt, Lauda, Villeneuve, Prost, Senna … when F1 was worth watching.  Uncle Bernie’s Motorised Whist Drives don’t do it for me.
 




Raechard -> RE: Loud Motorcycles (10/20/2007 3:51:08 PM)

I’ve not watched F1 for a couple of seasons including this one as it happens. I only mentioned it because everyone is going on about the double. These days you could probably put the worst driver in the best car and they’d do well so I agree with you there.




RapierFugue -> RE: Loud Motorcycles (10/20/2007 3:55:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Raechard

I’ve not watched F1 for a couple of seasons including this one as it happens. I only mentioned it because everyone is going on about the double. These days you could probably put the worst driver in the best car and they’d do well so I agree with you there.


Well indeed; have you seen an F1 steering wheel of late?
 
http://www.mclaren.com/features/technical/images/interactive_steering_wheel.jpg
 
I mean, FFS – another 2 buttons and it could do coffee & croissants!
 




Raechard -> RE: Loud Motorcycles (10/20/2007 4:01:04 PM)

Yep and strangely there is always a button there denoted ‘slow down the car at the last minute so you loose the race’ abbreviated ‘TO’. It also made me laugh when Hamilton said he hadn’t even trained for the Japanese grandprix on his playstation yet because it wasn’t in the season last year.




RapierFugue -> RE: Loud Motorcycles (10/20/2007 4:16:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

All of that being said............I live with one of those reformed yuppies that wanted a harley since he was a little shit. After he came back from his last tour in Iraq and retired from the military I finally got pissed and pushed him over the edge. I was sick of seeing him run to the window, gazing wistfully up at the road on those gorgeous summer days as the bikes cruised by. Sick of stopping by Metro Harley after work (we carpool) to drool over that beautiful black dyna. I put my foot down. The 4 seasons porch can wait until we are old enough to actually spend time sitting on it. "Buy the bike." "ohhhhhhh I shouldn't spend the money." Me...."Buy the bike or else!" After several months of futzing, he bought the bike.

Truth be told, he is still one of those fair weather yuppie riders. I tease him all the time about his perfect weather requirements. Also, he doesn't want to change the sound, make it louder. He likes the quieter rumble. "It still sounds like a harley" he says. So yeah, as far as the big tough biker image goes.........not a chance. But his heart is still a biker. He adores that bike, it is a dream come true for him.



Good on him, and good on you for encouraging him; there’s SO much macho bullshit talked about bikes by so-called “1%-ers”; I’ve been on bikes for almost 30 years now, starting with MX bikes at 13 and going on to road stuff thereafter, with a fair bit of track time latterly.  I’ve ridden and owned god knows how many bikes.  I’ve ridden in all weathers and all times, and I’ve averaged 40,000 bike miles a year at certain points in my life.  These days, when it’s cold and wet, I drive a car.  It’s called affluence, and commonsense.
 
It’s all about what the individual gets out of it.  When I hear patronising talk of “yuppies” and “fair weather bikers”, I always wonder why it is that bikers, a small enough group at the best of times, must somehow seek to still sub-divide itself still further.
 
If you ride a bike, you’re a biker.  Whether you're young and dumb, or whether you engender “respect” from older, more grizzled or just plain dumb bikers is neither here nor there, and though these days I’m closer to the latter point (old, grizzled, dumb) than I am the former, it’s of no consequence; ride a bike, be a biker.
 
What does interest me is that, in the US most of all, but also in the UK to a lesser extent, being a “biker” seems to put you outside certain social norms; it’s seen as being “wrong” by certain sections of the populace; in mainland Europe it’s much different; biking is seen as simply an individual way to have fun and be yourself, and a much nicer attitude flows as a result.
 
To any US bikers thinking of taking a break in Europe; do it.  Fly in, hire something (for short term hire, the Ducati factory, among others, will willingly find you something to hire if only you’ll call them, elsewhere numerous bike tours places have adverts here and there), and go have some fun, and see how gleefully people respond to you.
 
I guarantee you’ll love it.
 




RapierFugue -> RE: Loud Motorcycles (10/20/2007 4:19:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Raechard

Yep and strangely there is always a button there denoted ‘slow down the car at the last minute so you loose the race’ abbreviated ‘TO’. It also made me laugh when Hamilton said he hadn’t even trained for the Japanese grandprix on his playstation yet because it wasn’t in the season last year.


Yep.  Driving by numbers.
 
Sadly, with the introduction of traction control and launch control, Moto GP (bikes) is going much the same way.
 
Good it certainly is not.  We want to see people racing, not bloody computer programmers.
 




CuriousLord -> RE: Loud Motorcycles (10/20/2007 4:21:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RapierFugue

No, absolutely not.
 
Heaven forefend that you might adjust to your environment, rather than your environment always having to adjust to you.
 
The world is what it is.  It isn’t going to alter overmuch for you, or me, or anyone else.  Either move lithely through it, or stand still and berate it.
 
The only one that suffers is you.


Until they're banned.

Thanks for showing me that some people just don't care how annoying they are.




CuriousLord -> RE: Loud Motorcycles (10/20/2007 4:27:34 PM)

Neat story.  Yeah, biking can be dangerous.  I'm glad you agree that being louder isn't necessary, and that there are inherient risks.  So long as they don't pass their risks along, that's fine.

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ORIGINAL: spanklette

And as far as the OP...you'll just have to deal. Sounds like some idiot just being rude, but get some earplugs or a white noise machine. College is a time to learn coping skills, in addition to your other studies. [;)] 


Coping can include more than just sticking things in your ears, trying to block things out.  Instead, they can be as simple as trying to reason with people, or as harsh as forcing people to cease causing others problems.  The first would entail asking those bikers who are rather loud to take it down a notch.  The second would entail taking legal action over it to see it doesn't happen.  Both have shown varying levels of effectiveness across the States.




RapierFugue -> RE: Loud Motorcycles (10/20/2007 4:27:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CuriousLord

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ORIGINAL: RapierFugue

No, absolutely not.
 
Heaven forefend that you might adjust to your environment, rather than your environment always having to adjust to you.
 
The world is what it is.  It isn’t going to alter overmuch for you, or me, or anyone else.  Either move lithely through it, or stand still and berate it.
 
The only one that suffers is you.


Until they're banned.

Thanks for showing me that some people just don't care how annoying they are.


You’re young.  You’ll get over it.




RapierFugue -> RE: Loud Motorcycles (10/20/2007 4:29:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CuriousLord

Coping can include more than just sticking things in your ears, trying to block things out.  Instead, they can be as simple as trying to reason with people, or as harsh as forcing people to cease causing others problems.  The first would entail asking those bikers who are rather loud to take it down a notch.  The second would entail taking legal action over it to see it doesn't happen.  Both have shown varying levels of effectiveness across the States.



And soon you’ll have the world you yearn for …
 
… and it’ll serve you right.




CuriousLord -> RE: Loud Motorcycles (10/20/2007 4:35:46 PM)

Yeah, I suppose so.  Being young, one is inclined to have this crazy idea that you can talk reason into people.  That, ultimately, sensible people can get along, and that, at some level of another, most people can be reasoned with.  Growing up seems to be disillusionment towards this notion, realizing that not everyone is sensible, that, in some cases, you have to force them to respect your rights, even if that right's as simple as the right to sleep without them making a racket in your bedroom.  And, in ways, it's even found in ways of beginning to hate those that cause you problems without care.




RapierFugue -> RE: Loud Motorcycles (10/20/2007 4:39:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CuriousLord

Yeah, I suppose so.  Being young, one is inclined to have this crazy idea that you can talk reason into people.  That, ultimately, sensible people can get along, and that, at some level of another, most people can be reasoned with.  Growing up seems to be disillusionment towards this notion, realizing that not everyone is sensible, that, in some cases, you have to force them to respect your rights, even if that right's as simple as the right to sleep without them making a racket in your bedroom.  And, in ways, it's even found in ways of beginning to hate those that cause you problems without care.


*snort*
 
Have you thought about entering Miss World?
 
You’ve got the “personality interview” stage sewn up.
 




DianeB269 -> RE: Loud Motorcycles (10/20/2007 4:39:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SeeksOnlyOne

loud pipes save lives........and the vibes ya feel between ya legs aint so bad either


Yes, to both...I agree 100% that loud pipes save lives...


Diane




spanklette -> RE: Loud Motorcycles (10/20/2007 4:41:40 PM)

As I've matured, it's not so much that I've become disillusioned but more that I've learned to pick my battles.




CuriousLord -> RE: Loud Motorcycles (10/20/2007 4:42:50 PM)

The ironic part is that, between us, you're the only one who knows enough about "Miss World" to know what "the 'personality interview' stage" is.




RapierFugue -> RE: Loud Motorcycles (10/20/2007 4:44:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DianeB269

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ORIGINAL: SeeksOnlyOne

loud pipes save lives........and the vibes ya feel between ya legs aint so bad either


Yes, to both...



For years, one of the most popular “larger than 125cc” class bikes for women, in Europe, was the Guzzi V50 Monza, a V-twin.
 
Journos used to criticise it for its buzzy vibes, which were present at almost all parts of the rev range.
 
I’ve never met an unhappy female V50 owner.
 
Coincidence?  I think not.
 




DianeB269 -> RE: Loud Motorcycles (10/20/2007 4:47:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RapierFugue

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ORIGINAL: DianeB269

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ORIGINAL: SeeksOnlyOne

loud pipes save lives........and the vibes ya feel between ya legs aint so bad either


Yes, to both...



For years, one of the most popular “larger than 125cc” class bikes for women, in Europe, was the Guzzi V50 Monza, a V-twin.
 
Journos used to criticise it for its buzzy vibes, which were present at almost all parts of the rev range.
 
I’ve never met an unhappy female V50 owner.
 
Coincidence?  I think not.
 




I like four stroke thumpers (dirtbikes and supermotos)...



Diane




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