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Rover -> RE: you think you are what again?!? (10/26/2007 8:09:26 PM)
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ORIGINAL: SixFootMaster
Then paint me a more conservative flavor.
There's nothing wrong with being relatively conservative. I'm quite so myself. Though I'm more than willing to observe the more edgy activities that people engage in, as I find them fascinating. It's kind of like having a live version of National Geographic.
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I still see no harm in holding or expressing an opinion of any flavor.
Perhaps you don't, but others do. Share your opinion with a group of Marines that they're cowardly baby killers, and despite your right to that opinion, it may have some undesirable consequences. Tell your local football club (yeah, the Australian version) that you think they're all a bunch of wooses and girlie men, and it's not likely that they will celebrate your opinion and the freedom to express it without impaling you on the nearest signpost and dancing around your twitching body (while consuming vast quantities of beer, no doubt).
Point is, while you have the right to say things that others consider offensive, there is often a price to be paid for that right. Say whatever your heart desires, and live with the consequences.
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I do believe when it comes to that, that SSC is priori uno - and so long as they limitations and safety concerns are both understood and respected, that anything pretty much is fine. I would say, in reflection, that it is more the question of whether those limits and concerns are being respected or not that causes me to question.
I think that's a reasonable interpretation. Though SSC is not a universally accepted concept in the BDSM world. Even Slave David Stein (often credited with having coined the phrase, though he says it was a collaborative effort) is not so pleased with SSC these days. He, like others, feels that there are those misinterpreting it as if there is some list of activities that are SSC, and those that are not SSC (rather than recognizing that what is SSC is relative to the individual).
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Twistedkytten described a situation where the dominant (used loosely) involved demonstrated absolutely no concern for her safety or the respect of the physical limits of the body, nor of her mind.
In a different Gorean thread, for example, a slave expressed that her master enjoyed having her cut herself, which I supported since it was evident that it was SSC and that went for her heart and mind as well as her body in his use and demands of her.
I try not to put myself in the place of being the SSC judge and jury for others. Particularly with the limited information available over the internet.
John
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