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Celeste43 -> RE: Punishment Help? (10/24/2007 11:48:01 AM)

You've already been told that punishments aren't one size fit all. They must be attuned to the psyche of the sub. You're demanding a short cut, do this and they'll do that. It doesn't work that way.

Do you have siblings? If so, were you all assumed to be exactly alike? Your sister was great on the piano so you have to be too and to hell with the fact you have a tin ear and want dance lessons? That's what you're trying to do. It is a poor way to raise people to become confident, self actualized adults and it is equally a bad way to treat an adult.

There's nothing worse than someone who says "What do you mean crawling doesn't make you feel humiliated. It did for my last sub, and besides everyone online says it will work so it has to work".

You're also overlooking the point that some subs can't handle punishment at all well. So if you find one like that, and punish anyway, then you'll just punish yourself out of a sub.




ADomDoc -> RE: Punishment Help? (10/24/2007 11:58:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ARealizedDestiny.*sighs*  As stated before, I'm not looking for ideas to use on anyone.  Just simply looking to learn of other peoples' techniques, etc., just haven't gotten around to making MORE threads with other questions, and was hoping just to use this thread and spread on from that.  I DON'T have a lot of experience, I do not deny that.  Which is EXACTLY why I'm doing this.  Yes, I may be young.  But you older Doms who think you own the world because you're older and have more experience, and constantly put down younger Doms due to age alone are making me SICK.  It's no different than telling a black person they can't be a lawyer because black people are stupid.  Just another pathetic stereotype.  Stop assuming just because we're young, it means we don't know what we're doing, just into kink, or doing this to "look cool".  If I really wanted to "look cool" that bad, I'd have been a druggie or something by highschool.  I'll admit, some young Tops ARE out for that, yes.  But NOT ALL.  Once again, stop prejudging us.

I doubt if anyone believes that young equates to incapable; some beginners are naturals (such as Kenny in Austin).  It does equate to inexperienced.  But experienced Doms got where there are by being sensitive to the sub or slave & playing them, watching body language & determining where the sub/slave is at & fine tuning to play the sub/slave harder or lighter. That's play.  Punishment is something that the sub/slave does not enjoy & used to modify his/her actions.  Asking us what punishment to use is like asking us what food the slave likes ... it totally depends upon your slave.  So why the hell ask us?  Communicate with your sub/slave, show some intelligence, and use your imagination.

And whining like you do, ain't ever gonna make you a qualified Dom.





Vanatru -> RE: Punishment Help? (10/24/2007 1:44:45 PM)

ya know, Destiny, maybe it's the forum you're talking in, after all this one is called "Ask a Master"? You could try in "Ask a Mistress" and possibly get a different result. I'm sure you really are interested in becoming a female dominant instead of a male one after all, and if you don't want any men contacting you, then I'd also have to hazzard a guess you'd also not really value our input either. Which makes me curious about your choice.




southernhart -> RE: Punishment Help? (10/24/2007 1:46:54 PM)

i read your profie and it's easy to see that you have no experience. you should say that. you try to give the impression that you know what you're doing, and that can be dangerous. i saw you put down canning. Do you know how to use one? Do you know how do do any of what you listed? i hope so otherwise people can end up seriously hurt.




ARealizedDestiny -> RE: Punishment Help? (10/25/2007 8:27:22 AM)

I almost feel like stopping with posting at all.  NONE OF YOU ARE READING.  You read what the title says but are too lazy to read anything else.  I DONT HAVE A SUB.  I ADMITTED TO NOT HAVING MUCH EXPERIENCE.  I'M NOT LOOKING FOR IDEAS TO USE TO PUNISH ANYONE, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR INSIGHT INTO OTHER PEOPLES' EXPERIENCES.  FOR GOD'S SAKE, I JUST ASKED FOR A FRIGGIN LINK!!  PEOPLE, START READING POSTS BEFORE YOU ASSUME AND FLAME.  DAMN




thegirlincharge -> RE: Punishment Help? (10/25/2007 8:36:17 AM)

Sounds like a simple enough question to me. I don't know any links or have interest in reasearching that. But geez people...no need to jump the girl! It was a straight forward easy question. She didn't ask to have her motivations or experience examined. Chill.




soultoshare -> RE: Punishment Help? (10/25/2007 9:01:21 AM)

Well, this is just an observation from a sub here....but what the hell!  First of all, it appears that it is you who is not reading very well, you ARE getting advice from some very experienced masters here.  You were told how to find the requested information, you were advised in getting to know your sub/slave, no one is jumping on you for any reason.  Some very excellent points about individuality were made.  As far as punishment goes, you NEED to know your sub/slave in order to make that judgement about how to handle it yourself.  For instance, corporal punishment for me is a 50/50 thing, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.  However, one Master had me do writing assignments, by hand, no cheating by using a computer, and with a very specific time limit for completion...essentailly drive time from his house to mine..  Now THAT'S a bitch, and trust me, I didn't repeat whatever transgression it was that caused me to be punished in the first place.  He read and counted every sentence and every word, and fortunately, I was never punished for it being incomplete.....thank you, God!

Subs/slaves are NOT one size fits all.  I see that there is mention of your age, yes, unfortunately, it can be a problem, mainly because subs/slaves don't want to take a chance and get hurt by someone who doesn't know what they are doing.  Instead of slamming the Masters here, which was a) very immature for one thing, and b) just plain rude, take the information to heart.  Have you thought of seeking out a mentor?  The lifestyle is NOT necessarily a hands-on learning experience.  The first ecperienced Master that used a cane on me drew blood after just 6 strokes..that was someone with over 18 years experience!  Of course, I moved, not knowing that it wasn't something that I should have done.....subs are  inexperienced also, and he felt bad that it had happened, and that he didn't tell me to NOT move.  I look to the Master to have the intelligence to recognize things like that. 

Post this question on Ask a Mistress.......you will get different responses....mainly because Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus....it ain't just a catchy book title, it's a fact!  And a bit of advice, take it for what it's worth.....DO NOT alienate the folks here, they are great people, and while you'll need to get used to the different ways of responses, and the senses of humor, they can help you in ways that are priceless!  You think theses guys were rough????  Wait'll you talk to Domiguy, LaTigress, Lucky Albatross, Lady Ellen, Aileen68, Celeste43...OMG, the list is endless.....I have ruined 2 keyboards while reading their posts..keyboards aren't waterproof!!  Anyway, reading your last post made everyone of them, and anyone reading it afterwards, think of a little girl throwing a temper tantrum, stomping her widdle feet and crying.  That's NOT a picture you want people having...first impressions here are a tricky thing......it's hard to take anyone seriously when that's what they see in their mind's eye.

Again, just this sub's insght.....this and $4 will get you a cup of coffee.

PS...for anyone I didn't mention, I did say the list was endless!

edited cuz I missed 2 on the list right in the forum.....Ron and Fangsnfeet....sorry, Sirs!  [:D]




Vanatru -> RE: Punishment Help? (10/25/2007 6:27:13 PM)

Domiguy is a riot (I hope some woman's giving him serious head/sex regularly, cause he's quite the character)




ARealizedDestiny -> RE: Punishment Help? (10/26/2007 9:10:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: thegirlincharge

Sounds like a simple enough question to me. I don't know any links or have interest in reasearching that. But geez people...no need to jump the girl! It was a straight forward easy question. She didn't ask to have her motivations or experience examined. Chill.
thanks




laurell3 -> RE: Punishment Help? (10/26/2007 9:23:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Suck a man's dick, that looks like punishment, seeing your profile.

Shit, it ain't hard to figure out punishments, the hard thing to figure out is inspiring obedience and obeisance.

Ron



Actually, Ron did answer and his answer is a good indication of why you're not getting laundry lists for responses.  He looked at your profile, you obviously have demonstrated you are interested in females only, he chose a punishment that he felt would be fitting for you.

Punishment is about behavior modification not play, thus chosing wisely is important. What is one person's punishment is another's pleasure.  For me personally, inattention is much better than any type of corporal punishment as I am a masochist and also service oriented as a sub, the disappointment alone has rather severe impact on me.  Additionally, many of the typical essay writing, sentence writing type stuff wouldn't really have any lasting effect on me.  However, longterm inattention would make me question the relationship.

You get the point, it's rather complex and should be tailored to the person, I offer my own details merely to demonstrate that point.  People are not really trying to be evasive in their answers (for the most part), you have to look at the person you are with to determine what punishment would be appropriate.




RRafe -> RE: Punishment Help? (10/26/2007 6:35:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ARealizedDestiny

quote:

ORIGINAL: thegirlincharge

Sounds like a simple enough question to me. I don't know any links or have interest in reasearching that. But geez people...no need to jump the girl! It was a straight forward easy question. She didn't ask to have her motivations or experience examined. Chill.
thanks


The dissenters will teach you more than the sychophants-if you get past your own pride.




BlackSakura -> RE: Punishment Help? (10/31/2007 4:56:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Suck a man's dick, that looks like punishment, seeing your profile.


Freakin' awesome!




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