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Punishing another or punished by another - 10/28/2007 2:56:03 PM   
Squeakers


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Status: offline 		    Sorry if this topic has been addressed.   I am far too lazy today to look through old posts.   
   Has any Dominant ever been asked to punish another Dominant's submissive?   Has any submissive ever been sent to a different Dominant other than his/her own for punishment?
   If so, why did you the Dominant choose this alternative?   If you are the submissive how did you feel about it?   Also,  for the submissives if your Dominant was asked to punish someone else's submissive what were or would be your feelings about it?
  
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RE: Punishing another or punished by another - 10/28/2007 3:01:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		at the moment in time, i wont consider sending my sub or slave to anyone,i enjoy punishing too much 

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RE: Punishing another or punished by another - 10/28/2007 3:04:53 PM   
ruri


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Status: offline 		Yes, my Dom was in the room, and it was all in fun. I was a bad girl and needed to be *punished*.

If you mean I screwed the pooch and needed to be punished, no.

My Dom told me where I messed up, and to fix it ASAP. I did. No one else was ever involved in relationship work

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RE: Punishing another or punished by another - 10/28/2007 3:10:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		When I have been punished, it has always been something taken seriously, as it means I have disappointed him and need correcting.   He doesn't play games with punishment, nor has it always been corporal punishment that was given.  I doubt he would even dream of allowing another dominant male to administer his punishments.  Once however, he said he would consider having the submissive male (who submitted to us both) administer a flogging to me if I was out of line.  He felt that would be rather effective, for several reasons.

Being as the only way he would let another dominant male even play with me unless he, my Master, directed it, it is almost inconceiveable he would allow one to punish me.  I say almost because he never ceases to surprise me.

Interesting question, though.  I have a friend who was sent to another for a whipping.  Her Master lives overseas and sent her to a dominant friend who was local to her.  But then he would send her there as favors to him from time to time as well, so she knew the man and received it well.

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RE: Punishing another or punished by another - 10/28/2007 3:10:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		personally i think that "sending to another to punish" is a cop out unless the sub/slave has made you so angry that it would be best that someone else deal out a more "fair and objective punishment"

but then again, if you are unable to be fair and objective in the face of adversity, that speaks less to your ability to master yourself in the first place

personally, i like to handle my own business. i dont need to make a public spectical of a slave and i certainly dont need to have somone else do the dirty work with the exception of asking for "opinions and advice" in order to facilitate my own growth as a master

then again, i am currently still seeking my perfect slave so i could have it all wrong lol (but i doubt it)

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RE: Punishing another or punished by another - 10/28/2007 3:20:13 PM   
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personally i think that "sending to another to punish" is a cop out unless the sub/slave has made you so angry that it would be best that someone else deal out a more "fair and objective punishment"

    I do not see it as a cop out and it does not necessarily have to be because he is angry.    I guess I saw it along the lines of the submissive did something pretty extreme.   And perhaps the Dominant was not the sadistic type or perhaps did not feel he was able to administer a severe corporal punishment, maybe he is not experienced in say caning and felt that is what she deserved and prefered to have her punished in this manner vs. terminating the relationship.  Or as someone else stated, the Dominant was overseas and had someone close by administer it. 

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RE: Punishing another or punished by another - 10/28/2007 4:09:18 PM   
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RE: Punishing another or punished by another - 10/28/2007 4:13:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Squeakers

   Sorry if this topic has been addressed.   I am far too lazy today to look through old posts.   
  Has any Dominant ever been asked to punish another Dominant's submissive?   Has any submissive ever been sent to a different Dominant other than his/her own for punishment?
  If so, why did you the Dominant choose this alternative?   If you are the submissive how did you feel about it?   Also,  for the submissives if your Dominant was asked to punish someone else's submissive what were or would be your feelings about it?
 

I can speak from past experience only. Been there, learned the lesson the hard way  Once, we went to some friends of ours for dinner ( a high school friend of my husbands and his girl ). His friend said something to me that I took offense at so I smarted off back at him... ended up with a palm across my face and on my ass for the effort... not from my husband either. When HE found out what had happened, let's just say that even to this day, I wish I had kept my mouth shut.

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RE: Punishing another or punished by another - 10/28/2007 5:37:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		M was (is) pretty well-known in the area, and a very sane rational sadist, and it was not unusual for him to get such a request. Sometimes, all it consisted of was talking rationally - the girls more often left the house in tears after just talking than when he administered corporal punishment. I was never privy to these conversations / punishments - it wasn't a spectacle for anyone's pleasure. It was more like being sent to an old-school principal.

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RE: Punishing another or punished by another - 10/28/2007 5:52:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		We were at a dungeon and I was sent over to ask a dominant friend of my owner at the time to punish me. He did it more for humiliation and was often creative with punishments so I wouldn't forget them. Needless to say I didn't get punished often at all after that one.


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RE: Punishing another or punished by another - 10/28/2007 6:45:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Definitely a "blech" reaction from me.  Once again a case of people thinking of punishment as candy they can just grab, do and be done until the next time comes along (which is usually a very short time) rather than taking behavior modification and relationship security seriously as an ongoing progression.

I could understand being asked for my advice from CLOSE FRIENDS on a situation and how to deal with it, but it's their relationship and they need to deal with these issues together.

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RE: Punishing another or punished by another - 10/28/2007 6:58:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think people just miss the positive and negitive exchange of energy. I will use simple terms some of us are hyper sentive to those around us and who they are with what they are doing shrugs  all i have to say skittles catch the rain bow

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RE: Punishing another or punished by another - 10/28/2007 7:05:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		My Dom does not like to "lend me out" to another Dom for punishment, my Dom knows what works and what doesn't and he doesn't want to go through with explaining to to the next Dom on what to do, even if the other Dom has his own ways. Second, if my Dom wants to punish another female than i'm ok with it.

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RE: Punishing another or punished by another - 10/28/2007 7:57:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Squeakers
 
  Has any Dominant ever been asked to punish another Dominant's submissive? 


Master has been asked this a few times. He's turned down the request.

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  Has any submissive ever been sent to a different Dominant other than his/her own for punishment?


Not me.
 
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If so, why did you the Dominant choose this alternative?  


I can think of several reasons why a dominant would make such a choice (and I didn't read the thread, so forgive me, please, if these have been mentioned.)

LDR either temp or perm
Newbie dominant
The dominant just feels like it
Additional humiliation to the submissive
Retribution (the submissive was rude to a dominant not her own, so the owner allowed the offended party the opportunity to punish her himself)

I'm sure there are many other reasons, but those came off the top of my head.



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 If you are the submissive how did you feel about it?


I abhore punishment and try to avoid behaving in a manner which would cause such to come about. To be punished by Himself is bad enough because it means I've fucked up somehow .. but for Himself to allow someone else to punish me, well, I can only imagine he'd make that choice instead of actually releasing me and that thought makes me ill.

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   Also,  for the submissives if your Dominant was asked to punish someone else's submissive what were or would be your feelings about it?
 


I couldn't care less. It's none of my business. Bottom line, though.. better her than me!

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RE: Punishing another or punished by another - 10/28/2007 8:05:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Squeakers

   Sorry if this topic has been addressed.   I am far too lazy today to look through old posts.   
  Has any Dominant ever been asked to punish another Dominant's submissive?   Has any submissive ever been sent to a different Dominant other than his/her own for punishment?
  If so, why did you the Dominant choose this alternative?   If you are the submissive how did you feel about it?   Also,  for the submissives if your Dominant was asked to punish someone else's submissive what were or would be your feelings about it?
 

I have not had this happen to me...as to what would be my feelings?....It would shake my faith in my Master at the LEAST.


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RE: Punishing another or punished by another - 10/28/2007 8:25:30 PM   
slaveofKaos


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Status: offline 		I can think of several reasons why a dominant would make such a choice (and I didn't read the thread, so forgive me, please, if these have been mentioned.)

LDR either temp or perm
Newbie dominant
The dominant just feels like it
Additional humiliation to the submissive
Retribution (the submissive was rude to a dominant not her own, so the owner allowed the offended party the opportunity to punish her himself)

I'm sure there are many other reasons, but those came off the top of my head.

Big Truble


I agree with you on these reasons Big Truble. I myself have been asked by a Master who was away in New York to punish his slave here in California and to look out for her since he couldnt be here to do it himself. I dont think my Master could let anyone else punish me as not many people would be able to do what he does.





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RE: Punishing another or punished by another - 10/28/2007 8:44:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have seen this happen several times, each with a different reason behind why. One was because the Dominant was still angry about it after some time and wanted the punishment administered, but didn't want to hit in anger. Another was because the lesson they wanted to convey was that misbehaving in order to get punished by the Dom didn't work. They got something totally cold and devoid of emotion from someone else. Another was because they felt the severity of the offense dictated a punishment they weren't comfortable with administering (in this case, a caning). I have been the punisher in all three of these cases. While I don't go for this kind of thing in my own relationships, I honor the relationships of my friends and, if asked, I will usually help them run them as they see fit, if it's not totally against my moral code.

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RE: Punishing another or punished by another - 10/28/2007 8:49:13 PM   
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RE: Punishing another or punished by another - 10/28/2007 11:25:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ruri

Yes, my Dom was in the room, and it was all in fun. I was a bad girl and needed to be *punished*.

If you mean I screwed the pooch and needed to be punished, no.

My Dom told me where I messed up, and to fix it ASAP. I did. No one else was ever involved in relationship work



Hate to disagree here but where does it was all in fun and punishment become the same thing???  If it was fun it definitely was not punishment.

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RE: Punishing another or punished by another - 10/29/2007 4:32:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

I have seen this happen several times, each with a different reason behind why. One was because the Dominant was still angry about it after some time and wanted the punishment administered, but didn't want to hit in anger. Another was because the lesson they wanted to convey was that misbehaving in order to get punished by the Dom didn't work. They got something totally cold and devoid of emotion from someone else. Another was because they felt the severity of the offense dictated a punishment they weren't comfortable with administering (in this case, a caning). I have been the punisher in all three of these cases. While I don't go for this kind of thing in my own relationships, I honor the relationships of my friends and, if asked, I will usually help them run them as they see fit, if it's not totally against my moral code.

Master Fire

    Thanks everyone for all the replies but this one was along the lines of what I was looking for.    The one about the submissive misbehaving in order to get punished by the Dom seems it would be effective.  
      For me a punishment is not something to be enjoyed.   

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