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RE: Real Kink Factor ~ What is Normal? - 10/29/2007 1:36:58 PM   
BitaTruble


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Himself and I 'play' pretty much every day that we're both feeling well. (I'm allowed to jump his bones, so none of that 'slaves can't initiate activities stuff for us).We 'scene', (that fairly heavy, intense and serious stuff) about once a week (actually, probably more accurate to say 3 - 4 times a month) usually on the weekend.

Every 4 or 6 weeks we engage in a focus or high protocol weekend in which all the formal rules are trotted out (and they're written down so I don't forget what they are!) and a couple of times a year we do a week to ten days in a row of high protocol. The thing is, we make such a priority because we both love it and are really in to each other.

We both come up with things which are unusual and fun to help keep that honeymoon feel. Right now we are doing a criminal/mock trial role play that has a 30 day specific time limit (which ends on Nov 15) and depending on whether or not I get caught, things will progress from there. So far, I haven't been caught.  

We want things to be fresh, so we put that as a priority in our lives. There are also enough activities in the arsenal, that nothing gets stale because there's always something different to do or something which hasn't been done in a long time. We allow ourselves to be inspired by.. well, damn near anything. Television shows, video games, news, emails, road trips, the forums, even a crisis ... you name it, we pretty much kink it up and have fun with it.

If I had wanted to go without sex and play, I'd have stayed married to my first husband. ::laughs:: Bottom line, I can't keep my hands off him and he can't keep his hands off me. We love talking to each other about everything under the sun, but BDSM is one of our favorite subjects so we talk alot about it and that usually leads to doing something about it because talking about it gets us both hot for it.

Now, all that said, we are still honeymooners .. it's only been 12 years, so in another 30 or 40, things may slow down a bit. I'll have to get back to you on that one.

As far as playing once a month.. I mean, holy shit. Steel, that's just .. I don't know, not nearly enough! If engaging in your kink is getting stale because of familiarity, change what you're doing! Think outside the box and go places that you don't normally go! We play strip me, beat me Monopoly. When I win, it get to pick the toy that he'll use on me and I get a stroke (for example) for every dollar I win by. If he wins, he picks the toy and sometimes doubles what he wins by. Rat Bastard. ::grins:: We do Doom Kills on the Playstation2 (he ALWAYS wins that one ) and for every monster defeated, something will happen to equate to the number. Cards are great.. I mean we are talking plaaaaay.. entertainment here! How often to you watch televison together or go for a drive in the car? That's entertainment as well, but you can incorporate even the mundane into your kinky life. Just twist things up! If you're not in the 'mood' that's because you've chosen not to be in the mood and you can certainly make a different choice! We adjust the environment to suit our lives .. we don't adjust our lives to suit the environment. This weekend, Himself cut 4 inches off the legs of our bondage table because we're getting older and it's harder for him to play with me since it was so high and it was getting harder for me to climb up on it  .. so he cut those suckers off and is putting it back together. That's an example of adjusting things to suit us rather than just stopping things because they were getting difficult. Once a month. ::shakes head:: Keep that up and you'll be doing something fresh and exciting with a new girl, because the old one won't be staying around for 'nothing'.

Celeste

P.S. Oh, and it's only fair to add that all our children are grown and out of the house so that's not a concern and the dog doesn't mind us playing in front of him. Well, he did at first, but he got used to it.  Also, Himself has a home office and not everyone has such ready access to their partner, so I do think that makes a difference as well.

Double PS: I just read Opal's post and your response to her. And I'm going to leave my own post in place because maybe it will help someone else who actually wants to motivate themselves to play. As long as your own the same page as your woman (and that's something you should take into serious consideration if she's asking you for play) then it's all good. You don't have to be okay with how things are if you don't want to be okay with them, though. Change it if you don't like it .. and be prepared for the consequences of doing nothing if the compatibility with your partner falls to the wayside from not playing and especially if it's something she is requesting and that she was used to getting in the beginning (even if it was sporadic). Sometimes, as relationships evolve, the two people involved start walking in different directions. Just something to consider.

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RE: Real Kink Factor ~ What is Normal? - 10/29/2007 1:56:13 PM   
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First off, I hope that your kid gets well soon.

Secondly, while not in a 24/7 or ever planning to...What is the cut off line exactly? I know you said the tying down bit, but that...Typically doesn't take much work in my case. Do you mean a pre-negotiated scene? Mostly Kink? A really extended scene?

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RE: Real Kink Factor ~ What is Normal? - 10/29/2007 3:58:50 PM   
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I would say it's extremely uncommon for a live in 24/7 relationship to scene almost every day over any extended period.

It's also extremely common to not be in the mood- for a day or some long period.

However, it's ALSO common that people build up "playing" into a big deal rather than just enjoying.  Snuggling and play can happen at any time no matter what is going on- doesn't have to be a big full blown scene to be fun and enjoyable.

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RE: Real Kink Factor ~ What is Normal? - 10/29/2007 6:59:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah

The Purpose of this post was to ask if anyone in a 24/7 TPE/live in style relationship has the same issues I have with making time for play and the like.
 
Before I got involved in a relationship I had play partners that I would meet two times a week or so to play at a play party or maybe just for a session in my home.
 
I just wonder if anyone else ever has isses with the lack of play after they have gotten adjusted to a regular relationship.
 
It's just a question for common knowledge not looking for advice however if you have some I'll listen, I am just wondering if it is common in other peoples relationships or not.
 
As Always
 
Steel


Two years ago, Master and I moved from our own house to live with his mother.  Our reasonings for doing such was to take care of her (she was talking about selling her house and moving into a retirement center, which she really didn't want to do, but she could no longer live alone in her home). 

It's put a BIG crimp in our time to play.

Add to that, we don't have privacy anymore.  Even though our area is in the basement (yes, I know, stereotypical), she calls for one of us (usually me) all the time for stuff (when I'm not staying up in 'her' part of the house). 

Then add to that a job that has him changing shifts every 4 weeks (four weeks on first shift, second shift, "bastard shift" -- which has him working 1 first, 2 second, and 2 thirds each week for the month --and third shift) AND add to that the fact that until this month, after 1.5 years of working for this company, he FINALLY gets more than 3 traditional (sat/sun) weekends a year.  Yes, I said a YEAR.  (He now finally gets 12.)

It's made finding time to do the play part of our relationship very difficult.

But we still somehow manage to do it.  Not as often, but we still play. 

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RE: Real Kink Factor ~ What is Normal? - 10/29/2007 7:06:42 PM   
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"Normal" is just whatever you decide it is for you.  There are no limits or guidelines on what normal is.  What you would consider normal for you and whatever makes you happy is your "normal."  Don't worry so much about what others would consider "normal" besides if your heart is not in it at that moment, its hard to really play sometimes. 

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RE: Real Kink Factor ~ What is Normal? - 10/29/2007 8:23:09 PM   
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Everyone who's replied here has a valuable point to make, and in one way or another, I agree with everything everyone has written so far. But let me add my own two cents, just my opinion, mind you, based on only my own experience. Two things.

One, I've heard Sunny say that "Subs are greedy little things!" and while I think she means it in a good way, there is a kernal of truth to that. The sub, being the focus of all the attention and activity, naturally enjoys being sent to space. The Dom, on the other hand, is physically exerting himself or herself AFTER having planned out the details (the where and what and how) and the possible pitfalls (safety, nighbors or ums hearing, and all that) and gathered or obtained the needed props, etc. Not to say that I don't get something out of it, because I sure do, but manhandling someone is not the same thing as being manhandled (or womanhandled!); binding someone is not the same as being bound; and creating a mindfuck is not the same as experiencing one. The dirty little Dom secret is that it's a lot of work, even if you love it. So day after day, week after week, month after month, unless you have a service submissive (God love 'em!), Domming in a scene sense is going to be a greater outlay of energy than subbing. If the exchange is working right, yes, there is definitely a payback. But it's my humble opinion that submissives don't have a good grasp of just how much work it can be. Yeah, I know I'll probably get some mail for saying so! And I do acknowledge that a Dominant doesn't really know what a submissive goes through, either. But still....just trying to answer your question honestly.

The second thing is that your sub's needs are your sub's needs, and everyone's needs deserve some consideration. If she wants some more play, there are some things you can do. Put some thought into rituals that you might enjoy, things that she can do for you, perhaps, in a very specific and ritualistic way, or if she's refering to impact play, then maybe there should be something like a bedtime spanking every night. Once you set these in motion, the two of you will be engaged in a form of play that will keep her actively involved and you pampered/ amused/ aroused/ satisfied/ whatever it is you desire.

I've tried to live Ds full time, and even though it's like others have said - it ebbs and flows - I found it to be very difficult to sustain the level of energy needed to create the lifestyle I wanted when we firstmoved in together. If you only see a person once a week, it's not hard to whip up the energy (pun intended!) for an intense scene on the weekend. But day in and day out, it's mostly a fantasy. If you're very very lucky, you get what Celeste describes... but it does take some effort and most people would consider themselves lucky to have what she has.

Regards,

DS

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RE: Real Kink Factor ~ What is Normal? - 10/29/2007 8:34:32 PM   
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Different people have different play needs. I still love him, even when we don't play, but truth is I need to be tied up and used about every three weeks or my submissiveness wanes. I need the physical manifestations of his dominance for an hour or so every couple of weeks. Without it, I get bitchier and less interested. But if he's not ill or overloaded with worries, then I would get upset if he couldn't put aside the tv remote for ten minutes to make my ass red. Hell, he's been known to take ten to tie me up, blindfolded and gagged, and then just leave me there with a light blanket on while he sat next to me and read a book, until he could tell how horny I was at which point he usually gave me an earth shattering orgasm. Ten minutes of work for him, and I put away the ropes once I'm back to normal.

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