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RRafe -> RE: Energy people (10/31/2007 10:06:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrSpectacular I am a little confused also - Is the energy you describe you actually just making a connection? If your hands are getting hot during a scene are you not just getting turned on? Heart beating faster, sweating etc. It seems to me you are re-interpreting some normal 'scene' reactions into something else - for you it is called energy. That's fine - but it seems to me to get interpretted at an almost paranormal level, whilst it all could be explained in other ways. Shrugs.........could be. Only know what it feels like-to me. What you feel is about you.

missturbation -> RE: Energy people (10/31/2007 10:18:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mistoferin I used to believe that we feed off of each other's energy but something that KnightofMists said has me rethinking it just a bit. He said that the two people (and even others in attendance can contribute to) create an energy together that they feed from. This makes more sense to me because if indeed we fed directly from each other, the weaker of the two would end up empty. As a submissive and a masochist, I know that I feel very empowered after a good scene, and I don't believe that I would feel that if the sadist was feeding directly off my energy rather than feeding off of the energy we create together. i'm with mist of erin on this one [:D] Those of you who have read some of my rather extreme erotica, may have wondered " Why is this fellow so evil in his methodology?" Haven't read your erotica (hint) but i personally think of you as fluffy dom not evil dom, in a good way of course [;)]

RRafe -> RE: Energy people (10/31/2007 10:22:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: missturbation quote: ORIGINAL: mistoferin I used to believe that we feed off of each other's energy but something that KnightofMists said has me rethinking it just a bit. He said that the two people (and even others in attendance can contribute to) create an energy together that they feed from. This makes more sense to me because if indeed we fed directly from each other, the weaker of the two would end up empty. As a submissive and a masochist, I know that I feel very empowered after a good scene, and I don't believe that I would feel that if the sadist was feeding directly off my energy rather than feeding off of the energy we create together. i'm with mist of erin on this one [:D] Those of you who have read some of my rather extreme erotica, may have wondered " Why is this fellow so evil in his methodology?" Haven't read your erotica (hint) but i personally think of you as fluffy dom not evil dom, in a good way of course [;)] laughs, probably true. I like to restrain and tease, humiliate and control-but do harm? No.

Phoenix2raven -> RE: Energy people (10/31/2007 10:26:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SmokingGun82 quote: ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64 some people have the gift of premonition. quote: ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64 some people are healers. Unless you mean "doctors" then again no, they aren't. quote: ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64 Those that are mind readers it is like everyone shouting at once in your head totally sucks can drive you in sane. No one can read minds. To repeat- no one can predict the future, no one can dowse, no one can heal with a touch, no one can "manipulate your chakra," and no one can read minds. If you can do any of these things, please, go get your million bucks from the Randi Foundation. If you don't need/want the money, seriously, there are about a million worthy charities that could use it. Until and unless someone offers scientific evidence that any of these things exist, they're just the mental masturbation of the easily amused. Here is a science that proves the existence of thought energy. It's as real as science gets and its not just new age crystal twinky woo woo. http://www.life-enthusiast.com/twilight/research_emoto.htm It makes sense to me that if we are made mostly of water and thought affects water this may be an explanation as to why there is that empty feeling when a D/s couple break up.

SmokingGun82 -> RE: Energy people (10/31/2007 10:59:47 AM)
I'm not sure what your definition of good science is, but the fact this doctor claims the temperature of the body goes to zero degrees Celsius upon death makes me question anything else he's said. To prevent this becoming a distraction to the original thread, I'm just going to gracefully bow out... thank you for assuming I simply don't understand, or that I'm too close minded to understand.

chellekitty -> RE: Energy people (10/31/2007 11:59:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RRafe Is your intimacy based on your energy? clarification please...what do you mean by intimacy...because i am not sure that is the word you are looking to use exactly, because of its broad meaning: 1.the state of being intimate. 2.a close, familiar, and usually affectionate or loving personal relationship with another person or group. 3.a close association with or detailed knowledge or deep understanding of a place, subject, period of history, etc.: an intimacy with Japan. 4.an act or expression serving as a token of familiarity, affection, or the like: to allow the intimacy of using first names. 5.an amorously familiar act; liberty. 6.sexual intercourse. 7.the quality of being comfortable, warm, or familiar: the intimacy of the room. 8.privacy, esp. as suitable to the telling of a secret: in the intimacy of his studio. i believe only 3, and perhaps 7 and 8 are not relevant... and i am intimate with my mother....and i am intimate with my pastor at church....but not in the way that you are referencing....and i am really not trying to be difficult, it's just....i could write for days on the subject (i kind of did on the psychic thread)...and i am trying to figure out what you are wanting to know more about...

RRafe -> RE: Energy people (10/31/2007 12:21:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: chellekitty quote: ORIGINAL: RRafe Is your intimacy based on your energy? clarification please...what do you mean by intimacy...because i am not sure that is the word you are looking to use exactly, because of its broad meaning: 1.the state of being intimate. 2.a close, familiar, and usually affectionate or loving personal relationship with another person or group. 3.a close association with or detailed knowledge or deep understanding of a place, subject, period of history, etc.: an intimacy with Japan. 4.an act or expression serving as a token of familiarity, affection, or the like: to allow the intimacy of using first names. 5.an amorously familiar act; liberty. 6.sexual intercourse. 7.the quality of being comfortable, warm, or familiar: the intimacy of the room. 8.privacy, esp. as suitable to the telling of a secret: in the intimacy of his studio. i believe only 3, and perhaps 7 and 8 are not relevant... and i am intimate with my mother....and i am intimate with my pastor at church....but not in the way that you are referencing....and i am really not trying to be difficult, it's just....i could write for days on the subject (i kind of did on the psychic thread)...and i am trying to figure out what you are wanting to know more about... The baselines feeling and connections you have with a person you care for,and spend time with. In a sexual and romantic manner.

chellekitty -> RE: Energy people (10/31/2007 12:39:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RRafe The baselines feeling and connections you have with a person you care for,and spend time with. In a sexual and romantic manner. wow RRafe...the grammatical structure and spelling of that...whatever that was...dumbfounds me....even if you spoke that out loud, i would tell you to rephrase it... and uhhh now that we have that straightened out...you still didn't ask a question...really....so i am rinsing and repeating LA's answer...everything is energy...how can our intimate sexual and romantic relationships be any different?

RRafe -> RE: Energy people (10/31/2007 1:20:49 PM)
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RRafe -> RE: Energy people (10/31/2007 1:31:30 PM)
I'll think about some more-when you come ascross to me as a bitch,I lose interest in being nice.

PsyVamp -> RE: Energy people (10/31/2007 2:30:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross quote: ORIGINAL: PsyVamp As a side note LA, they shouldn't even try to feed on you without your permission. -Psy Well people shouldn't rape physically either, doesn't stop a lot of people. Vampires can be the worst in terms of thinking they are "above" or "outside" the realm of ethics and morals, specially as it's nearly impossible to impose immediate direct negative consequences on their actions (if the victim even is aware) unless you know what you're doing. Some can you are absolutely correct... I choose not to associate with such...immature people. And they will continue to act like that unless someone takes them to task. I think a lot of people are unaware...disbelief can be wonderful cover for them. I hope you have had some positive experiences...not all of us are jerks Psy

RRafe -> RE: Energy people (10/31/2007 2:32:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PsyVamp quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross quote: ORIGINAL: PsyVamp As a side note LA, they shouldn't even try to feed on you without your permission. -Psy Well people shouldn't rape physically either, doesn't stop a lot of people. Vampires can be the worst in terms of thinking they are "above" or "outside" the realm of ethics and morals, specially as it's nearly impossible to impose immediate direct negative consequences on their actions (if the victim even is aware) unless you know what you're doing. Some can you are absolutely correct... I choose not to associate with such...immature people. And they will continue to act like that unless someone takes them to task. I think a lot of people are unaware...disbelief can be wonderful cover for them. I hope you have had some positive experiences...not all of us are jerks Psy It's also stupid to try and take energy from people you don't know, it can make you sick. Ever been in the presence of someone who just creeped you out? made you shudder, even when they didn't do anything?

PsyVamp -> RE: Energy people (10/31/2007 2:37:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RRafe quote: ORIGINAL: PsyVamp quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross quote: ORIGINAL: PsyVamp As a side note LA, they shouldn't even try to feed on you without your permission. -Psy Well people shouldn't rape physically either, doesn't stop a lot of people. Vampires can be the worst in terms of thinking they are "above" or "outside" the realm of ethics and morals, specially as it's nearly impossible to impose immediate direct negative consequences on their actions (if the victim even is aware) unless you know what you're doing. Some can you are absolutely correct... I choose not to associate with such...immature people. And they will continue to act like that unless someone takes them to task. I think a lot of people are unaware...disbelief can be wonderful cover for them. I hope you have had some positive experiences...not all of us are jerks Psy It's also stupid to try and take energy from people you don't know, it can make you sick. Ever been in the presence of someone who just creeped you out? made you shudder, even when they didn't do anything? And stupid to take from the sick or the elderly...I think the ones LA was talking about don't care who they feed from....idiots. Its been a while since anybody creeped me out... I avoid people like that as much as possible. Oh, and on a side note... make sure they aren't on drugs either... twitches

chellekitty -> RE: Energy people (10/31/2007 2:43:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RRafe I'll think about some more-when you come ascross to me as a bitch,I lose interest in being nice. i'm assuming that was a general you and not a specific you....?

Prinsexx -> RE: Energy people (10/31/2007 2:46:05 PM)
quote: I know that there have been times that I just gave up that sort of thing to my image of the divine. RRafe this is where I find my peace...in the inner sunshine as I call it....I have had it fly through the air in a very physical form emiitted from one guy I knew...had it through closness in a nearby and had it ina touch...but meditation is a slow and laborius self-discipline for me to get there and the most powerful way is through a mind fuck orgasm which isn't tied into the actual physical connection in any exact way.....I know it's the dreaded Love word but there are so many barriers people put up when together to stop that energy flowing. I was reading about FLOW in the work of Mihaly (something unintelligible that sounds like Chick sent me high hee as a surname oh yeah Csikszentmihalyi about peak experiences)...and he talks about the difference between excitement and pleasure. Where excitement creates pleasure which then creates excitement we get Flow. Now I assume dominants get excitement from controlling a scene and the sub draws pleasure.....for me the energy exchange happens when enough of my pleasyre switches the energy flow from my pleasure to His pleasure which makes me feel really excited, pleased with ,yself, successful....in that moment when my Dom 'gives in' .....gives his energy up..... but anyway two people or more than two people are a beautiful way for the flow of energy to shift its values. bdsm is always a peak experience for me. In my darkest moments I forget or lose faith in a power greater or higher than myself (stupid bitch)............

RRafe -> RE: Energy people (10/31/2007 3:05:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: chellekitty quote: ORIGINAL: RRafe I'll think about some more-when you come ascross to me as a bitch,I lose interest in being nice. i'm assuming that was a general you and not a specific you....? If you feel you can diss me-you can find someone else to talk to.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Energy people (10/31/2007 4:19:24 PM)
It's also stupid to try and take energy from someone who not only knows exactly what/how it's going on, but CAN impose those immediate direct physical consequences on their dick presumptuous asses. You know, just like vampires get surprised by the cute blonde Buffy... As for "is it energy/paranormal or is it just normal"? That is an excellent question! I am the FIRST one to try and say "This isn't a big deal!" One thing to remember that energy is energy- your heart beating is electrical impulses, the thoughts you have are electical impulses surging through physical cells in your body. Sweat happens due to chemical reactions in the body which manifest into biological ones. The deeper you get into biology, the more it becomes chemistry. The deeper you get into chemistry, the more it becomes physics. The deeper you get into physics, the more it becomes quantum physics and that's just some freaky fucked up shit. But it's still all happening- all those levels. Somehow an electrical impulse becomes a "thought." That doesn't make thoughts paranormal, it just means we've accepted them as normal. Feeling energy/connection from someone is really as normal as having thoughts, and not at all a big deal in terms of comparison to other things. But just like breathing, if it's not there, you miss it really fast.

Prinsexx -> RE: Energy people (10/31/2007 4:43:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross But it's still all happening- all those levels. Somehow an electrical impulse becomes a "thought." That doesn't make thoughts paranormal, it just means we've accepted them as normal. Feeling energy/connection from someone is really as normal as having thoughts, and not at all a big deal in terms of comparison to other things. But just like breathing, if it's not there, you miss it really fast. I love this way of viewing it...purely feeling and beaytifully explained.

RRafe -> RE: Energy people (10/31/2007 4:43:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross It's also stupid to try and take energy from someone who not only knows exactly what/how it's going on, but CAN impose those immediate direct physical consequences on their dick presumptuous asses. You know, just like vampires get surprised by the cute blonde Buffy... As for "is it energy/paranormal or is it just normal"? That is an excellent question! I am the FIRST one to try and say "This isn't a big deal!" One thing to remember that energy is energy- your heart beating is electrical impulses, the thoughts you have are electical impulses surging through physical cells in your body. Sweat happens due to chemical reactions in the body which manifest into biological ones. The deeper you get into biology, the more it becomes chemistry. The deeper you get into chemistry, the more it becomes physics. The deeper you get into physics, the more it becomes quantum physics and that's just some freaky fucked up shit. But it's still all happening- all those levels. Somehow an electrical impulse becomes a "thought." That doesn't make thoughts paranormal, it just means we've accepted them as normal. Feeling energy/connection from someone is really as normal as having thoughts, and not at all a big deal in terms of comparison to other things. But just like breathing, if it's not there, you miss it really fast. Humans run on eletrical impulses. The way the cells generate power-the way that power is translated into nerve impulses. Eletrical impulses create fields-no matter how minute. We seem to be wired to sense these fields-and that was the whole gist of this-what you feel-not what you can prove scientifically-because science is not yet able to measure things like this with any redundancy.

chellekitty -> RE: Energy people (10/31/2007 5:43:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RRafe If you feel you can diss me-you can find someone else to talk to. wow...i'm sorry you were so offended at my inability to understand what you were saying...i had to reread your statement 20 times to attempt to understand what you were saying because it was so improperly written...and if you had said it like you had written it, i would have asked you to rephrase it as well....because, honestly, i still don't fully understand what you were saying....because either you were saying there are two baselines, in which there are feelings and connections, or the baseline is feeling and connections....and the comma between for and and is unnecessary, there should have been a space instead....and the period and start of a new sentence (which was a fragment because there is no subject) was also unnecessary....it was not a diss, just a critisism....as in "a serious examination and judgment of something; "constructive criticism is always appreciated""....it is not innately negative.... is there something else we need to talk about?

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