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Hergirl0824 -> In need of some advice or support... (10/31/2007 5:03:17 PM)

my Ma'am suffered a mild stroke over the weekend and i have been beside myself with worry. Since we are not 24/7 and both have our own families to deal with i have been unable to be there to take care of her like i want to be....and on top of worrying abut Her physical state, now i am deeply worried about Her emotional one also. When we spoke today by phone(which is not easy for her as most of her motor skills have been somewhat effected by the stroke), She was more concerned about me than Herself. She spoke about how She no longer thinks She can be a good Domme to me anymore because of Her physical limits and that maybe She should release me so i can find someone who can. i tried to reassure Her that my love and complete devotion is for Her alone, but She only wants to talk of what is best for me.

my question is has anyone dealt with anything similar to this? Any suggestions as how i should handle the situation? i do not want to leave Her but i also do not want to upset Her more and put Her recovery in jeopardy from the stress of worrying about me.




Squeakers -> RE: In need of some advice or support... (10/31/2007 5:17:03 PM)

How about saying---Do we really need to worry about how our relationship is going to change at this point?    Your recovery is most important and perhaps we can take things one day at a time for right now.
I know for me, that not being able to do all the things we physically could have before would not change the feeling we have for each other.   For me, D/s is like a sundae, it's mostly ice cream  with some real good toppings on for flavor, some like hot fudge syrup and peanut butter syrup, some hate the cherries and the peanuts and some like more whipped cream than others and no matter what you put on the top, it's still a sundae but without the ice cream it's just a whole bunch of toppings.   For me the ice cream is the 'vanilla' part of my life, D/s is the toppings.    Without that good vanilla ice cream foundation, I'm left with just a bowl of toppings and it simply doesn't taste as good, and if I was totally out of toppings, a bowl of just ice cream will work.  




Mercurialdame -> RE: In need of some advice or support... (10/31/2007 5:19:07 PM)

Your Mistress is not feeling adequate, or upto being a Domme right now. Her own image of what a Domme is, does not compute with her stroke affected body.
She is going to have a period of rehab, and a whole heck of adjustment.
I would take anything she says with a grain of salt right now.
A friend of mine, had a similar experience. And was left partially paralysed. For months, he begged each of us, to bring him a overdose for him to take, as he could not get out of the bed, let alone hospital. He could not 'envisage' himself, within the body he was left with and wanted to die and shouted loudly at me often. A year later, back at work, his life is different, and adjustments were made, to his home, his self image, his self esteem. I just offered encouragement and support, and politely refused his adamant request to be allowed to suicide. He's is still my mate, no different. Our relationship is still the same. He's still a stubborn bastard. But it really knocked him, to have his body, robbed of its full functioning. He had no point of reference for living his life in this new body. He was scared. Terrified at times. And felt useless in life. But that passed. Some of his body functioning came back. But her remains in a wheelchair. But he's happy, self achieving in new areas of acedemia, living as rich a life as before. But that took time, and rehab and friends and loved ones supporting him. Sounds fine, but really tricky when you mate doesnt want you anymore! Coz you wont do the one thing he requests. Ive literally visited to 'fuck off, i dont want you in my life anymore'. Its tough, but hang in there.
To not be nearby, to lend a hand must be killing you though honey.
But there are things you can do. Ask her to respect your wish, to not discuss release, as it hurts too much right now. That is something you can both talk about later. Meanwhile, write, send gifts, send flowers, being someone's domme, is not the same as being a whipping machine. Its the person that you submit to, not the physical prowess. Her mind is the same, her personality is the same, all the reasons you wish to serve her are the same.
Tell her to give you a call when she's finished with her pity party. Whatever you think will help, work for you both.
Good luck




Hergirl0824 -> RE: In need of some advice or support... (10/31/2007 5:33:37 PM)

Squeakers..thank you so much for this...i love the way you describe D/s..it describes how i feel exactly




Hergirl0824 -> RE: In need of some advice or support... (10/31/2007 5:37:55 PM)

Mercurialdame   thank you    yes not being able to be there to take care of Her is absolutely killing me....after talking with Ma'am today, all i could do was sit and cry..i want to be there to take care of Her...if She could never spank me again it would not matter to me...it is Her that i care about..the rest matters not




batshalom -> RE: In need of some advice or support... (10/31/2007 5:48:32 PM)

Aba is in Israel and I am back in the US, and I found out today that he is in hospital for an ongoing relatively serious illness that affects his heart. Emotions run high during such times, both for Dom/me and sub. One thinks s/he cannot do what the sub needs / wants or what s/he once did (it is fear of course, and it is very natural), and the other feels helpless because of the distance.

The only thing to do, Hergirl, is to be solid and give back to her the stability she gave to you as her sub, remain steadfast and sure. She will feel your energy and it will help, even if you do not think it will. Make as few waves as possible, shed as few tears (in her presence) as possible, and do not freak out. It will all be ok.

~squeezing Hergirl's hand, gritting her teeth, refusing to cry~ We'll get through it, eh?




Hergirl0824 -> RE: In need of some advice or support... (10/31/2007 5:56:32 PM)

oh thank you so much batshalom....it means the world to me that you would take time to reply to me when you are suffering through so much yourself....stay strong and know that i am there for you if you need me...yes we WILL get through this




Squeakers -> RE: In need of some advice or support... (10/31/2007 6:16:03 PM)

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~squeezing Hergirl's hand, gritting her teeth, refusing to cry~ We'll get through it, eh?
  I'll add my hand to that pile of squeezing.   I've been there, and my thoughts are with both of you ladies.  




Hergirl0824 -> RE: In need of some advice or support... (10/31/2007 6:30:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Squeakers

quote:

~squeezing Hergirl's hand, gritting her teeth, refusing to cry~ We'll get through it, eh?
  I'll add my hand to that pile of squeezing.   I've been there, and my thoughts are with both of you ladies.  


thank you to all of you ladies
the support means the world to me




octavia -> RE: In need of some advice or support... (10/31/2007 8:23:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Hergirl0824

my Ma'am suffered a mild stroke over the weekend and i have been beside myself with worry. Since we are not 24/7 and both have our own families to deal with i have been unable to be there to take care of her like i want to be....and on top of worrying abut Her physical state, now i am deeply worried about Her emotional one also. When we spoke today by phone(which is not easy for her as most of her motor skills have been somewhat effected by the stroke), She was more concerned about me than Herself. She spoke about how She no longer thinks She can be a good Domme to me anymore because of Her physical limits and that maybe She should release me so i can find someone who can. i tried to reassure Her that my love and complete devotion is for Her alone, but She only wants to talk of what is best for me.

my question is has anyone dealt with anything similar to this? Any suggestions as how i should handle the situation? i do not want to leave Her but i also do not want to upset Her more and put Her recovery in jeopardy from the stress of worrying about me.



She is in shock atm.  I would also take into account that when the brain suffers trauma, it tries to par down any stresses it can.  She is not capable of being there for you at this time, although she feels that you need someone, so her response will be to direct you elsewhere to get your needs met.  The response that I would be likely to have would be to remind her that she is still knee deep in crisis and to reasure her that no decisions need to be made today. 
Best of luck to you both,
and hugs,
oct




MidnightMaiden -> RE: In need of some advice or support... (10/31/2007 8:44:31 PM)

Your post touched me deeply, and my thoughts are with you both.

There are many ways in wich a D/s relationship can work.  Many people do it online without any physical interraction.  It may be that Her physical abilities are limited... but D/s is not all about the whippings and physical domination.  I am sure it is Her mind that you love more than anything, you can both find a way to adjust to any limitations and adapt your relationship accordingly.  Her thoughts speak to me of the deep love she has for you, try and feel comforted by that.




Hergirl0824 -> RE: In need of some advice or support... (10/31/2007 8:51:36 PM)

thank you octavia
yes as always Her only thoughts are of what is best for me and i am sure you are right that She is still in shock
thank you for your words they have helped me greatly tonight




Hergirl0824 -> RE: In need of some advice or support... (10/31/2007 8:55:10 PM)

thank you maiden
yes i am positive of the love She has for me..i have spent the night rereading every email and letter She has ever sent to me..and remembering special moments that we have had together..trying to bring some peace and comfort to my mind...my devotion to Her will never waiver, no matter what limits this places upon Her.
thank you for your words of comfort
they mean more to me than anyone will ever know




adoracat -> RE: In need of some advice or support... (10/31/2007 11:59:42 PM)

*hugs batshalom and hergirl snuggly*

last year this time, we knew that Himself was on "limited lifespan".  i was there physically with him as much as possible, talked to him on the phone whenever he wished, stood up to doctors (to his infinite amusement), held his hand, cried with him, cried without him, did everything i could to show him of my love....

up to and including telling him "if the first two rounds of chemo did nothing, why torture yourself with a third?"  and my heart breaking at the look of relief on his face at me telling him it was ok to die.  i plan on having a spectacular drunk christmas morning, when it will be a year since his passing.

you tell them you love them, you do everything you can, you dont stop telling them you care and that you still want to be there and still want to be theirs.

the whole reason i came to collarme?  his final wishes were to not be alone, that he knew me and that i would not thrive without someone to take care of me.  yes, i'm married and wolf DOES take care of me....but he doesnt take care of the submissive me.  in late february,  i met Daddy.  in march, we agreed to see how this might work between us.

in august he gave me his permanent collar.

kitten, who is crying, but happy at the same time.




agirl -> RE: In need of some advice or support... (11/1/2007 5:10:55 AM)

I don't know if this helps but my daughter, who's only 23yrs and a single mother of a 5yr old, had three strokes in June this year, two small ones on the right and a larger one on the left.

At first she was paralysed down her right-hand side, couldn't walk, talk, eat , drink, tell the time or pee etc. Today, five months later, she can do all of those things, though not as well as before, to date.

The most difficult thing for the sufferer, especially in early days, is the shock and the sense of loss of *who they were before* and feelings of helplessness. These things DO diminish over time, and you really ARE in early days.

As Mercurialdame mentioned in her post about her friend,  my daughter had thoughts and feelings of wishing the stroke had killed her rather than leaving her disabled in the way she was, but now, months later, is finding  positive aspects to life again. Even five months on, it's STILL early days for us.....recovery continues for years.

The brain damage that occurs through stroke varies HUGELY and it can take quite a time to notice what is affected. The cells that are destroyed don't recover, so the brain has to make use of slightly less efficient cells to accomplish tasks and this takes time, and effort.

In my daughter's case, she's left with problems with memory, concentration and priority. The biggest problem, by far, is the acceptance, not only by her but by those that love her, that she will not be the same person she was before.

Some of the manifestations can be bewildering and upsetting. Stroke affects every single person differently and the uncertainties surrounding it and the lack of concrete  answers make it uncharted territory, to a degree, in each case. I have read and read about stroke until I was dazed; informed myself about every possible outcome/recovery and STILL don't have FIRM conclusions. No-one can have those.

As Mercurialdame said, listen, but take what's said to you with a grain of salt, for now and remember that you have strengths that can carry you. for now, even if it's auto-pilot.

I'm a writer and wrote this a few days ago about my daughter and the experience of stroke.

Brain Attack at 23 yrs old 

It didn’t hurt at all; the brain attack.
The sneaky insult to your mind
Robbed you of the life you knew
And left a mess of deficits
With a painless stroke.
Now you’re partly you, recovering,
And partly someone else, emerging,
Who can’t remember phone calls
Or appointments, and lets the washing up
Pile high with crusted debris,
And buys a necklace while the fridge
Stands empty, and can’t explain
No cereal for breakfast
Or clean knickers for your child.
Streams of caring experts
Chart your progress in a code
You struggle to decipher
From the letters flying back and forth.
Striato-capsular infarct is, in fact,
As bewildering as it sounds.

With regards, agirl







laurell3 -> RE: In need of some advice or support... (11/1/2007 7:36:22 AM)

Wow to all of you, my sympathies on some very difficult situations and best wishes to you.

Op hang in there and wait and see.  Right now she's overwhelmed and feeling inadequate and in shock.  Only time will tell how much damage she will have longterm.  Remember to take care of yourself, often times we don't in crisis and it doesn't help the person we are concerned about.  Good luck to you and your Misstress.
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Hergirl0824 -> RE: In need of some advice or support... (11/1/2007 8:19:09 AM)

adoracat
thank you so much   it does help to see how others have handle situations like this
i am struggling with this so much but am trying not to let Her see my struggle and tears  i want to be strong for Her now as She has always been for me




Hergirl0824 -> RE: In need of some advice or support... (11/1/2007 8:21:30 AM)

agirl
thank you it helps to see how others have bounced back from something like this
your daughter must be a remarkable woman
my best to both of you




Hergirl0824 -> RE: In need of some advice or support... (11/1/2007 8:23:28 AM)

laurell

thank you so much
everyone's support both here and in private messages has been wonderful..it helps more than anyone could ever know




Dnomyar -> RE: In need of some advice or support... (11/2/2007 7:10:15 AM)

As I have been where most of you have been I would like to throw in my support. Patience is the key word for you . Hang in there and be stubborn yourself.




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