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RE: USA used tactical Nukes on Syria? - 11/2/2007 4:22:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sanity.... Thanks for the answer, i did say i thought the report was b/s, while i was reading it i just wondered if it was possible for the device to have detonated in any other way.

The device was mentioned in the original topic you posted, my question was about that. How is that off topic ?

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RE: USA used tactical Nukes on Syria? - 11/2/2007 4:35:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		It wasn't off topic, I just wasn't sure that I understood your question properly. Did you see the before and after pictures of where the strike occurred? Something hit that area, but there have been conflicting reports concerning just what it was, and who it was. I personally don't know, I just thought the report that it might have been the USA with a tactical nuke was of interest.

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RE: USA used tactical Nukes on Syria? - 11/2/2007 4:43:04 PM   
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A question for anyone that knows...... If its true, and my view is its b/s, would a plane being shot down have set off the nuclear device it was carrying  ?


There are a lot of redundant safety systems built in to most any kind of a significant modern explosive device, and so it's highly unlikely if not impossible, but I'm not sure what your question has to do with the topic.


Not 500% impossible but extremely unlikely.

There is one gaurded set of switches in the cockpit to arm, then a second to select, yet anothewr on the bombadeirs handle to drop


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RE: USA used tactical Nukes on Syria? - 11/2/2007 4:54:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Either way i doubt the whole truth will ever emerge. I just think carrying nuclear devices into a battle zone is a dangerous step.

Adds...Thanks guys, i was thinking of an anti aircraft missle getting a lucky strike on the warhead.

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RE: USA used tactical Nukes on Syria? - 11/2/2007 7:54:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think one of the things everyone is missing is the absolute inherent anti-Jewish slant within the Arab media in general and the Radical Islamist media in particular. the underlining sentiment is this; "Jews could have never pulled this off so it must have been really done by the United States"
 

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RE: USA used tactical Nukes on Syria? - 11/2/2007 8:08:41 PM   
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If you want to determine if an explosion was nuclear in origin you need to look for various isotopes that will be anomolously present at the site or downwind not looking for mechanical effects of any large explosion.


It wouldn't be a good idea for your average "journalist" to just jump in a Toyota and waltz into a suspected nuclear zone to pick up some samples though, like some here seem to be suggesting.

The Syrians don't want it to be known what happened, and it doesn't look like anyone else is too eager to let the truth be known either. I don't know. I've seen pictures of the site, before and after:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/07/middle_east_enl_1193412299/html/1.stm

But was it the USAF that did it, with a tactical nuke? Who knows.

That after photo is very telling. The "reactor" building is leveled, either by the blast or by cleanup work, while the structure about 200 meters away is seriously damaged  the pumping station less than a mile away appears completely undamaged. Also essentially unchanged in the two photos are the hill tops and road beds around the valley that contained the two structures. This looks a lot like what you would expect from a precision guided conventional munition and not the sort of indiscriminate damage to be expected from even a tiny 1 kton nuclear device. I'm willing to bet quite a bit that the site was not nuked.

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RE: USA used tactical Nukes on Syria? - 11/2/2007 8:09:41 PM   
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Honestly I have no idea who you think THEY are.


Bush Administration and Overzealous Staffers and Supporters.


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RE: USA used tactical Nukes on Syria? - 11/2/2007 8:11:48 PM   
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It wouldn't be a good idea for your average "journalist" to just jump in a Toyota and waltz into a suspected nuclear zone to pick up some samples though, like some here seem to be suggesting.

The Syrians don't want it to be known what happened, and it doesn't look like anyone else is too eager to let the truth be known either.


Isn't the ENTIRE POINT of Journalists, that they don't GIVE A SHIT what the Syrians or Anyone Else wants people to know about the Truth?

They go and do Journalism.

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RE: USA used tactical Nukes on Syria? - 11/2/2007 8:12:57 PM   
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It wasn't off topic, I just wasn't sure that I understood your question properly. Did you see the before and after pictures of where the strike occurred? Something hit that area,



Ever hear of "Photoshop"?



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RE: USA used tactical Nukes on Syria? - 11/2/2007 9:19:54 PM   
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That after photo is very telling. The "reactor" building is leveled, either by the blast or by cleanup work, while the structure about 200 meters away is seriously damaged  the pumping station less than a mile away appears completely undamaged. Also essentially unchanged in the two photos are the hill tops and road beds around the valley that contained the two structures. This looks a lot like what you would expect from a precision guided conventional munition and not the sort of indiscriminate damage to be expected from even a tiny 1 kton nuclear device. I'm willing to bet quite a bit that the site was not nuked.


There is nothing telling about that photo at all.  Its doesnt have times or dates just 2 different monts and it looks like it was taken in 2 different seasons

The second building looks damaged, (maybe), or who knows?

If the pic was a next rev pic I am listening. (but its not)


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RE: USA used tactical Nukes on Syria? - 11/2/2007 9:49:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Farg so you think the THEY is simply confined to the Bush admistration?  interesting...  And you think Bush would have to go to crazy theatrics like that to get a hold of a nuke?  I could come up with dozens of scenarios that would be much easier and actually work to accomplish it.  So I still think your theory is just simple crap at about the level of a bad TV movie.  But it does tell us a lot about the way your mind works....

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RE: USA used tactical Nukes on Syria? - 11/2/2007 10:10:52 PM   
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RE: USA used tactical Nukes on Syria? - 11/2/2007 10:30:53 PM   
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So I still think your theory is just simple crap at about the level of a bad TV movie.


President and Cabinet commit Criminal Fraud to get Congress to authorize the use of the Military to settle The President's Old Scores ( And steal a LOT of money! )

Hmm.. It does read kinda hacky... Which just goes to show you, Truth is Stranger than Fiction.


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RE: USA used tactical Nukes on Syria? - 11/3/2007 1:09:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		No your theory that flying the live nuke accross the country was a trial run to steal one.  Nice of you to try to pass my quote off in relation to something else.  The same level of honesty you use in most of your arguments.

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RE: USA used tactical Nukes on Syria? - 11/3/2007 1:22:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hypothesis, actually. And given the crazy antics of the Alleged Felons At Large, plausible if unlikely.

We're still back to "How the fuck to all those people just overlook the warhead" problem, which for me, is reason enough to just shut the fucking airforce down, and give the Army whatever planes they need for their own uses.

Well, that and the whole, "Raping your classmate" thing at the Academy...



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RE: USA used tactical Nukes on Syria? - 11/3/2007 8:46:38 AM   
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RE: USA used tactical Nukes on Syria? - 11/3/2007 8:49:35 AM   
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That's all assuming the entire story isn't just bullshit.




I think you hit the nail square right here FB.

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RE: USA used tactical Nukes on Syria? - 11/5/2007 4:22:49 PM   
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farglebargle wrote: So, when did Congress declare War against Syria, and appropriate any money for operations against that Sovereign nation?

The United States hasn't formally declared war on anyone since 1943 or 1944 (Thailand, as I recall).

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RE: USA used tactical Nukes on Syria? - 11/5/2007 4:53:19 PM   
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RealOne wrote: We always have a bombers floating around loaded with live warheads, just because they have a lkive warhead is no reason to assume it is connected to a specific target.

No longer the case.  For a while in the 1960s, the US would have nuclear-armed bombers in the air 24/7 but that sort of thing stopped a long time ago; I think even before the collapse of the Soviet Union.

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RE: USA used tactical Nukes on Syria? - 11/5/2007 5:07:17 PM   
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RealOne wrote: We always have a bombers floating around loaded with live warheads, just because they have a lkive warhead is no reason to assume it is connected to a specific target.

No longer the case.  For a while in the 1960s, the US would have nuclear-armed bombers in the air 24/7 but that sort of thing stopped a long time ago; I think even before the collapse of the Soviet Union.



i would be curious as to where you got that from?


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