Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

Is it safe for toys to be used on Multiple partners?


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Bondage Gear and Apparel >> Is it safe for toys to be used on Multiple partners? Page: [1] 2   next >   >>
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
Is it safe for toys to be used on Multiple partners? - 11/4/2007 12:04:57 PM   
Maestro66babycak


Posts: 396
Status: offline 		Master Jess has 2 dildos that he uses. Since he has now started training another person ( which , if anyone cares , I do NOT want to be part of a poly, so I am VERY upset about this-mortifies and horrified of STD's)  is it possible for him to transfer and STD's that the trainee has to me? To clean them all he does is wash them in cold water with a little liquid soap.  I am so afraid that I am going to get some kind of fatal STD from this blankety blank trainee.He never even asked her if she was disease free. Before I would scene with Master Jess I required him to give me a report from his doctor stating that he was disease free. I don't understand why he didn't even ask her!

_____________________________

I live between the Rock and the Hard Place.
Profile   Post #: 1
RE: Is it safe for toys to be used on Multiple partners? - 11/4/2007 12:15:23 PM   
azropedntied


Posts: 1829
Joined: 7/25/2005
From: Phx AZ
Status: offline 		FIRST OFF YES  is the simple answer to the unsafe  question -the other coment i had was EWWWWWWWW .. a dildo or vib is so cheap why do you not have your own  ?and she have her own ?I know i have personal toys  that are used only on me .Also sounds like deception has angered you  rightly so if he just brought a new person  in without  communication with you . A lil soap and water is  fine  but turn on the HOT water , there are much better ways to sterile toys  -but if cross using  with multi partners  i would say his cleaning methods need upgrading  and to also add a condom to the toys use . You should have your own personal  toys aswell , including toys that may get blood contaminations  . In the end  just by your discriptions i would not put myself at risk .
Best wishes ..

(in reply to Maestro66babycak)
Profile   Post #: 2
RE: Is it safe for toys to be used on Multiple partners? - 11/4/2007 2:07:43 PM   
LadyLynx


Posts: 1098
Joined: 7/24/2007
Status: offline 		If I were in your position, I would tell him buh-bye!  Keep in mind that just because you are a sub, doesn't mean your concerns are meaningless and that needs can't be met.

_____________________________

Our community maybe openminded as a whole, but it is still made up of individuals who bring in their own opinions,baggage and agendas!

Known as SwitchWitch in my local community,and on IRC Bondage.

I also go by the nic SwitchWitch on MDS.

(in reply to azropedntied)
Profile   Post #: 3
RE: Is it safe for toys to be used on Multiple partners? - 11/4/2007 5:34:53 PM   
completenz


Posts: 315
Joined: 1/10/2007
Status: offline 		with you on this. If he is not man enough to deal with your concerns then he is not worthy of you. It may hurt at the time but i do feel you should begin to look elsewhere
hugs
chrissie

(in reply to LadyLynx)
Profile   Post #: 4
RE: Is it safe for toys to be used on Multiple partners? - 11/4/2007 5:53:31 PM   
bipolarber


Posts: 2792
Joined: 9/25/2004
Status: offline 		Well, to answer the OP's actual question: Yes, you can sterilize non-pourus materials like latex, silicone, plastics and metals by washing them. Soap and water is only half the answer, however. He might want to soak them in a sink filled with 90% water and 10% bleach.

You can't sterilize open pore materials like leather, or wood.

If I were you, I'd tell him that he'd better have a health report on his new trainee, stat, or you are asses and elbows out of his life. Either that, or the trainee and you have seperate toys for high risk activities.

Accept no comprimises where your health and saftey is concerned.

(in reply to completenz)
Profile   Post #: 5
RE: Is it safe for toys to be used on Multiple partners? - 11/4/2007 6:29:17 PM   
Lucylastic


Posts: 40310
Status: offline 		Silicone dildos can be boiled and put in the dishwasher, so can glass ones....there are antibacterial cleaners  for other types of insertible out there and they are quite good, but personally I would go for either separate toys for each orifice...and each person...or use one or two condoms as well as as much disinfectant I could get my hands on.
Of course you could just get out of the relationship,  if it is that much of a concern, Its certainly not something I would care to have foisted on me. But that is up to you:)
Good luck
Lucy

_____________________________

(•_•)
<) )╯SUCH
/ \

\(•_•)
( (> A NASTY
/ \

(•_•)
<) )> WOMAN
/ \

Duchess Of Dissent
Dont Hate Love

(in reply to bipolarber)
Profile   Post #: 6
RE: Is it safe for toys to be used on Multiple partners? - 11/4/2007 9:11:47 PM   
ladysekhmetka


Posts: 94
Joined: 12/31/2006
Status: offline 		I'd insist on seperate toys myself without the tests to show the disease free status of the parties involved.  Even then, as previous response have said, it's safest to use condoms where applicable.

But did he seriously bring in another person without asking you?  That's rather disrespectful.


_____________________________

Lady Sekhmet Ka

~ Hail, Sekhmet, Who Gives Joy, Lady of Jubilation!~

(in reply to Lucylastic)
Profile   Post #: 7
RE: Is it safe for toys to be used on Multiple partners? - 11/4/2007 9:37:08 PM   
smilezz


Posts: 2156
Joined: 6/18/2004
Status: offline
Yes.....they can be transferred.

Also....just because there is another person in this does not mean that it is actually poly....it also does not mean that you "have" to be inolved in what it is THEY do. Just because he may have another person in no way means that you have to participate or be involved in anything.

I would suggest having your own personal toys that are solely used on you.

If he is not responsible enough to take care of cleaning toys properly.....what makes you think he is responsible for taking care of you? your health? your life?

This is a no brainer for me.......but....that's me. *shrugz*

gooood luck!

~smilezz~

_____________________________

=It's not my fault that when I was a baby I was dropped in a box of Glitter & I have been shinin' ever since=

�*:-.,_,.-:* � �*:-.,_,.-:* � �*:-.,_,.-:* � �*:-.,_,-:* �

(in reply to Maestro66babycak)
Profile   Post #: 8
RE: Is it safe for toys to be used on Multiple partners? - 11/5/2007 8:09:08 AM   
MisPandora


Posts: 2911
Joined: 4/7/2004
From: Philadelphia, PA
Status: offline 		Yes it's possible to transmit diseases from person to person via a sex toy.  You can contract Hep C from sharing a shaving razor or kitchen utensils, for pete's sake.

The doctor's note isn't going to stop you from getting a yeast infection or anything else for that matter, viral communicable disease or not.  The only thing that will stop disease transmission is stopping the behavior!  Stop allowing shared toys to be used on you, period. 

Washing anything in cold water and dish soap doesn't freakin count.  A compromise on expensive ones would be to use pyrex or steel and be able to sterilize them, or use condoms and YOU take responsibility for cleaning the toys. 

The other issue at hand is your not wanting to be in a poly situation and accepting being forced into it.  Think very carefully about what you're doing....this is not good physically or mentally.

_____________________________

Pandora
Ms World Leather 2004
Ms Philadelphia Leather 2004

"Simply put, if you want a real femdom to love you, give her reasons to love you." Gloria Brame

(in reply to Maestro66babycak)
Profile   Post #: 9
RE: Is it safe for toys to be used on Multiple partners? - 11/5/2007 12:24:39 PM   
latexbarbiets


Posts: 93
Joined: 7/10/2006
Status: offline 		Yeah toys are cheap, I NEVER use my toys on anyone else.

(in reply to MisPandora)
Profile   Post #: 10
RE: Is it safe for toys to be used on Multiple partners? - 11/5/2007 1:12:14 PM   
bipolarber


Posts: 2792
Joined: 9/25/2004
Status: offline 		Oh, and one other thing... even IF the trainee produces a clean Dr's report, that doesn't mean it's going to stay that way. Everytime you add another person to your circle, you multiply your possible disease vectors. (This is a CDC rule of thumb, BTW, not just something I'm yanking out of my butt.) So unless you ALL are willing to get STD blood panels done every three months, or can otherwise PROVE you haven't been screwing around, you'll need to consider making the effort to incorperate full on safe sex paractices into your play.

Remember the game called "six degrees of seperation?" It takes on a whole new connotation when you apply it to STDs.

(in reply to latexbarbiets)
Profile   Post #: 11
RE: Is it safe for toys to be used on Multiple partners? - 11/5/2007 2:06:34 PM   
DianeB269


Posts: 1596
Joined: 10/30/2006
Status: offline 		DO NOT share any sex toys with anyone...It is very unsafe!!!!
I make all my subs buy their own strapons and harnesses. I use them on the sub that owns thems...


Diane

(in reply to Maestro66babycak)
Profile   Post #: 12
RE: Is it safe for toys to be used on Multiple partners? - 11/5/2007 2:30:23 PM   
LadySeraphina


Posts: 931
Joined: 3/28/2006
From: Calgary, Canada
Status: offline 		Personally, I condomize all my toys, whether or not they are used on multiple people. The ones that are used on multiple people are also washed with toy cleaner and hot water, dried, then placed in a UV sterilizer. Frankly, the $250 for a UV sterilizer is well worth it.

The bigger issue you have (okay, your health IS the biggest, in the scheme of things...) is what this fellow is doing in your relationship. I'd say adios, amigo.

Edited: okay, I made it sound like I don't wash ALL my toys. Of course I do, but the multiple-use ones are 100% always placed in the sterilizer.

< Message edited by LadySeraphina -- 11/5/2007 2:31:40 PM >

_____________________________

"Men are like wine. They start out as grapes and its up to the woman to stomp the crap out of them until they turn into something acceptable to have dinner with." -Unknown

www.LadySeraphina.ca

www.SeraphinasToybox.com.

(in reply to DianeB269)
Profile   Post #: 13
RE: Is it safe for toys to be used on Multiple partners? - 11/5/2007 3:47:29 PM   
BootBlackBlast


Posts: 378
Joined: 10/23/2006
Status: offline 		Yeah, I'd seriously reevaluate your decision to be with Master Jerk, if he is opening your perceived closed relationship without discussing it with you and taking your feelings into account.

Sharing toys is a HUGE RED FLAG to me especially when it comes to insertables as I was an EMT and a firefighter. Working for a leading leather online retailer, we always recommend using dedicated toys for each play partner and except for my fluid bonded partner, all of the play I engage in uses silicone, metal, or pyrex insertables. All of which are dishwasher safe and boilable. I surface clean them, soak them in a 10% bleach solution for an hour, and then place them in an extra large pasta pot and boil them, dry them with a clean lint free shop towel, place each one in a ziploc baggy and return them to the toybag. I'm a bit obsessive when it comes to cleaning toys, but I don't want HIV, AIDS, or anything else for that matter. And I don't want my play partners to have them either. And yes I do have numerous play partners who are HIV+.

_____________________________

Leather Rubbin and Dubbin

Bootblack Blast
Mama's Blast

(in reply to LadySeraphina)
Profile   Post #: 14
RE: Is it safe for toys to be used on Multiple partners? - 11/5/2007 3:51:25 PM   
laurell3


Posts: 6577
Joined: 5/5/2005
Status: offline 		The STD test isn't the only issue.  You can get all types of germs and infections from toys and fluids.  Buy your own toys, take them there, take them home, clean them yourself and if this Dom/me doesn't listen to a legitimate health concern...well you know the rest of this don't you?  Take care of you, don't wait for someone else to do it for you.

_____________________________

I cannot be defined by moments in my life, but must be considered for by the entirety of my existence.

When you fail to consider that I am the best judge for what is right for me, all of your opinions become suspect to me.

(in reply to BootBlackBlast)
Profile   Post #: 15
RE: Is it safe for toys to be used on Multiple partners? - 11/5/2007 4:01:55 PM   
MissMagnolia


Posts: 3636
Status: offline 		First let me say this.................. ICK!!!

I'm in agreement. My subs buy their own toys and equipment, and they are only used on them. They are all kept in separate boxes or taken home. I also use a condom on anything that can have a condom on it. Cold water and a bit of liquid soap aint going to sterilise anything.

The more important part of the answer. Are you really sure you want to be with a man who disregards your feelings and health so blatantly? Because it doesn't sound like a good idea.

_____________________________

if at first you dont succeed..then skydiving isnt for you

Resident Whip Cracker AND Resident Orbs Of Joy.


(in reply to laurell3)
Profile   Post #: 16
RE: Is it safe for toys to be used on Multiple partners? - 11/6/2007 10:43:22 AM   
CrypticVisionz


Posts: 18
Joined: 8/16/2007
Status: offline 		If you really want to stay with him, there are definitely considerations that need to be made on his part.  First of all, are you his collared property, or are you two just MOSTLY exclusive?  Secondly, If you still don't want to leave him, I'd make this an excuse (if your financially in the position to do so), to go Toy shopping.  I'd pick up two silicone toys, and make it perfectly clear to him that they are for YOU only.  If you need to hide them when you're not home or whatever, do what you need to do to ensure they are not used on this new trainee.  I understand your fears all too well, Poly, especially non-negotiated poly is a bitch and can have severe reprocussions if it's not addressed immediately.  I was in a poly relationship where the 3rd partner was only mostly aware of our activities, and when it was all brought to light, all hell broke loose.  So I guess your options are, Leave him to his new trainee, or get your own toys and negotiate that his cock is not inserted into this new person. 

(in reply to MissMagnolia)
Profile   Post #: 17
RE: Is it safe for toys to be used on Multiple partners? - 11/7/2007 5:26:49 AM   
John665623


Posts: 161
Joined: 2/25/2005
Status: offline 		I agree with all of the above comments.  Your own toys are best, condoms are second.  It also sounds like you and you dom need to talk about a few things.  Be safe and be happy. 

(in reply to CrypticVisionz)
Profile   Post #: 18
RE: Is it safe for toys to be used on Multiple partners? - 11/8/2007 10:06:46 AM   
vtviceversa


Posts: 41
Joined: 1/13/2004
Status: offline 		I'll just add what others have said:

1. Use condoms on toys, period. Ideally, have your own, but short that, condoms. No condom = no use.
2. Hot water, for pete's sake. That's silly and stupid.
3. Additional cleaning/sterilizing methods.
4. No sharing of porous toys at all.

But I would suggest that being a sub does not mean and should NEVER mean that you somehow have to be submissive about health and safety issues. That's no longer a dom/sub, top/bottom matter, it's a selfish matter - your dom/top is being selfish as well as stupid.

Me? I'd leave.

(in reply to Maestro66babycak)
Profile   Post #: 19
RE: Is it safe for toys to be used on Multiple partners? - 11/9/2007 11:52:29 AM   
ABMaster


Posts: 17
Joined: 3/9/2007
Status: offline 		GEEESH....there are two major issues here, both of which should cause you to pause and re-evaluate your relationship. You're not bound to someone for life, especially if he shows such a wanton disregard for your health and safety.

First of all, you most certainly can get a nasty STD by using a toy that's been inside someone else. You should have your own dedicated toys and, even then, clean them after use with something like 'safe suds'.

If your Master brought another girl into the picture, knowing how you feel about it, he is not showing you the respect and consideration that you deserve, especially when health and safety issues are concerned. Regardless of how you initially defined your relationship, the moment that your health and safety are jeopardized, you need to take immediate action to protect yourself, even if that means fleeing from the man. The duty of every Master is to protect his girl from harm, and he is not living up to his responsibility here, no matter how he might rationalize his behavior. If he persists in exposing you to these dangers, RUN.

(in reply to Maestro66babycak)
Profile   Post #: 20
Page:   [1] 2   next >   >>
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Bondage Gear and Apparel >> Is it safe for toys to be used on Multiple partners? Page: [1] 2   next >   >>
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.078