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60 Minutes: Curve Ball - 11/4/2007 4:29:14 PM

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(CBS) 60 Minutes has identified the man whose fabricated story of Iraqi biological weapons drove the U.S. argument for invading Iraq. It has also obtained video of "Curve Ball," as he was known in intelligence circles, and discovered he was not only a liar, but also a thief and a poor student instead of the chemical engineering whiz he claimed to be.

60 Minutes correspondent Bob Simon's two-year investigation will be broadcast this Sunday, Nov. 4, at 7 p.m. ET/PT.

Curve Ball is an Iraqi defector named Rafid Ahmed Alwan, who arrived at a German refugee center in 1999. To bolster his asylum case and increase his importance, he told officials he was a star chemical engineer who had been in charge of a facility at Djerf al Nadaf that was making mobile biological weapons.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/01/60minutes/main3440577.shtml

This is coming on TV right now, by the way.

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RE: 60 Minutes: Curve Ball - 11/4/2007 7:18:00 PM

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Meh. Many of us knew most of this from the first. Now it's all just dotted i's and crossed t's. Which is good, but too little far too late also.

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RE: 60 Minutes: Curve Ball - 11/5/2007 2:57:47 AM

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Well, no.

Should a prosecutor prove that, say, Rice did not perform her duty under the law, she can be found criminally negligent.

Of course, this is just another piece of evidence in the INTENTIONAL FRAUD committed by the Bush Administration, in their conspiracy to Con Congress into the AUMF-Iraq.

So, you have a LEGAL REQUIREMENT to adequately verify the statements you allege to be true BEFORE you make the statements. Curveball was lying. I don't think, given the pattern of illegal acts, exactly *who* "overlooked" verifying the claims. The pattern itself is clearly indicititave of the alleged crime.

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RE: 60 Minutes: Curve Ball - 11/5/2007 3:04:01 AM

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I can't explain why but I no longer trust 60 Minutes. I used to years ago [and I mean yearsssssssssss lol] but then um.. I was actually ON the program and things got twisted beyond the reality.Yes yes I know 'ratings' and that it is habitual to slant things in certain directions. Hmm I just answered why I don't trust them didn't I? Heh. I used to consider them to be honest and digging into things that few others did. Jeez I feel jaded and it's only 6am haha.

They were the first ones that made me realise that journalists lie. Yeah I was young, this was back in the late 80s.

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RE: 60 Minutes: Curve Ball - 11/5/2007 9:59:36 AM

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Camille, my Aunt got intrviewed on CNN. I watched them do it, and was shocked at how they edited it to change what she said to fit the "template"

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