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Real0ne -> NY Police Threaten to Frame Protestor as Terrorist (11/4/2007 9:35:05 PM)



Caught on TAPE;

This man identified himself as a police officer and
accused Rudkowski of 'having a bomb' and 'being a
terrorist' to silence his free speech for Larry
Silverstein. It is a serious federal and state crime
to publicly state that someone has a bomb and is a
terrorist when not true-- like extreme example of
yelling fire in a theater-- and needs to be
prosecuted.

Such knowingly misleading and false information is not
only malicious and immoral, but has been made
specifically illegal under the Anti-Hoax Terrorism Act
of 2003-- and expanded for more stringency in 2004 and
the Terrorism Prevention Act of 2006, not to mention
long-standing protections against defamation and
public endangerment. There are also many state and
local laws prohibiting such activity.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6784729690941085123



Above the law?




luckydog1 -> RE: NY Police Threaten to Frame Protestor as Terrorist (11/4/2007 10:29:22 PM)

Actually they never identify them selves as Police officers.  The protestor asks, "why are you calling the Police", at the same time the editor of the film puts in a graphic saying he is NYPD.  The protestor himself refers to the Men in suits as other than Police.  The men imply they work for Larry Silverstein, "Larry doesn't want you here".  Simple minded people will fall for this kind of nonsense.  Just another example that these nut groups have to tell lies to make thier points.  Notice also that part of the encounter is cut out.  What exactly is that the "truuthers" don't want us to see?







Owner59 -> RE: NY Police Threaten to Frame Protestor as Terrorist (11/4/2007 10:39:06 PM)

  I don`t think they were cops.If they were,they`re getting fired,no doubt.

They looked like private security(possibly off-duty/retired cops).God help us ,if they were real cops.

This doesn`t let the nut-job "truth protesters",off the hook.I feel like I want to punch those guys and their weirdness,sometimes.

Popular Science, did a complete debunking of all the 9/11 conspiracy theories.Thank god ,for sane people.




farglebargle -> RE: NY Police Threaten to Frame Protestor as Terrorist (11/5/2007 2:47:24 AM)

Hey, keep in mind, it's in the Bush Administration's best interest to keep the 9/11 conspiracy meme alive.

It distracts people from Bush's collusion with the SAUDI PIECES OF SHIT responsible for the funding, planning and execution of 9/11.

Proof? Well, how many Saudi's have been tried and convicted in Federal Court of conspiring with the 9/11 hijacker?

Material Support of Terrorism is a Crime, and I really, really question ***WHY*** Bush is so damn SOFT ON SAUDI TERRORISTS???

And isn't that enough?





Real0ne -> RE: NY Police Threaten to Frame Protestor as Terrorist (11/5/2007 3:56:07 AM)

Actually lucky the article does not make the claim they identified themselves "on camera", so why are you are making up the illusion that they did you naughty boy.

The threat was heard on tape as claimed.  

This isnt about 911 its about people being framed and having our rights to free speech destroyed by government apologists like you.

By all means if you have proof that they were not police officers or that something is being hidden please feel free to post it.  LMAO

Oh while you are at it would you also release the pentagon videos and OBL's medical records to name only 2?  






Real0ne -> RE: NY Police Threaten to Frame Protestor as Terrorist (11/5/2007 4:04:52 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

I don`t think they were cops.If they were,they`re getting fired,no doubt.

They looked like private security(possibly off-duty/retired cops).God help us ,if they were real cops.

This doesn`t let the nut-job "truth protesters",off the hook.I feel like I want to punch those guys and their weirdness,sometimes.

Popular Science, did a complete debunking of all the 9/11 conspiracy theories.Thank god ,for sane people.



Thats what they are bitching about.  The man making the call in should have been hauled away exactly as they would someone who yelled fire in a theator and they were not.

Again this is not aabout 911, but popular science is owned and produced by the same people who own popular mechanics and they have long since been proven to be nothing more than a hoax in legitimate research circles. 






Real0ne -> RE: NY Police Threaten to Frame Protestor as Terrorist (11/5/2007 4:09:03 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: farglebargle

Hey, keep in mind, it's in the Bush Administration's best interest to keep the 9/11 conspiracy meme alive.

It distracts people from Bush's collusion with the SAUDI PIECES OF SHIT responsible for the funding, planning and execution of 9/11.

Proof? Well, how many Saudi's have been tried and convicted in Federal Court of conspiring with the 9/11 hijacker?

Material Support of Terrorism is a Crime, and I really, really question ***WHY*** Bush is so damn SOFT ON SAUDI TERRORISTS???

And isn't that enough?





Yep and the administration followed the money trail as far as saudi and then looked the other way when the saudis said they cant  look any further.  Instead we bombed afghanastan.






luckydog1 -> RE: NY Police Threaten to Frame Protestor as Terrorist (11/5/2007 9:54:57 AM)

GO back to the OP.....
"Caught on TAPE;

This man identified himself as a police officer "

Except it is a lie.  It was not caught on tape.  Real, I have heard you say that people were terrorists, why are you not in jail. 

Thank you for the vivid example of how you and your "sources" distort things and lie, to make your points.  Apperantly you can't make them with out lying.




Real0ne -> RE: NY Police Threaten to Frame Protestor as Terrorist (11/5/2007 10:06:58 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: luckydog1

GO back to the OP.....
"Caught on TAPE;

This man identified himself as a police officer "

Except it is a lie.  It was not caught on tape.  Real, I have heard you say that people were terrorists, why are you not in jail. 

Thank you for the vivid example of how you and your "sources" distort things and lie, to make your points.  Apperantly you can't make them with out lying.


well i put caught on tape in there in refereence to the "thrust" of the whole point lucky, something you have trouble dealing with.

I have no intentions of writing a philosohical 1000 page discourse to self litigate every poissible contingency that your microscopic mind can conjure up and falsely claim is the thrust of the OP.

You cant get it right on something as small as that surely you wont get it right with more verbage.

In a previous microscope debate of yours I even went so far as to give you the disected language by an grammar teacher in your "pull it" fuck up and if you understood the english language you would have acquiesced but you went on to maintain your position proving that you cannot even understand the english language when put in its most simple broken down terms.

your inablility to comprehend what you read has been well established. I do not make posts on here for the purpose teaching you the english language and how to understand it.   dont worry we all know you are just being a naughty boy.








SoHott -> RE: NY Police Threaten to Frame Protestor as Terrorist (11/5/2007 10:14:23 AM)

wow!




luckydog1 -> RE: NY Police Threaten to Frame Protestor as Terrorist (11/5/2007 10:21:37 AM)

But the thrust was that the man identified himself a police officer, and he didn't.  Someone is lying about it.




luckydog1 -> RE: NY Police Threaten to Frame Protestor as Terrorist (11/5/2007 10:30:09 AM)

Real I have asked a few times for some sort of sourcing on your Heavily EDITED "proof" from an un named Grammar teacher.  You are unwilling to give it.  Is it because it was so edited, or just made up.  I do not know.  I do not care.  At this point it means nothing to me. 

No matter how you parse it, you can only say he said what he actually said.  Any teacher will tell you that, anyone with the slightest bit of honesty.  You can say he meant something else, but in this case it ain't true.....

SO this thread got moved to stupidity, probablya  good choice.




Real0ne -> RE: NY Police Threaten to Frame Protestor as Terrorist (11/5/2007 11:40:57 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: luckydog1

Real I have asked a few times for some sort of sourcing on your Heavily EDITED "proof" from an un named Grammar teacher.  You are unwilling to give it.  Is it because it was so edited, or just made up.  I do not know.  I do not care.  At this point it means nothing to me.

No matter how you parse it, you can only say he said what he actually said.  Any teacher will tell you that, anyone with the slightest bit of honesty.  You can say he meant something else, but in this case it ain't true.....

SO this thread got moved to stupidity, probablya  good choice.




Unlike you I provide more than just my "opinion" and actually supply references.

you make me laugh, you literally never post any sources what so ever yet demand them from others, then when you get them you microscope them to misrepresent the thrust of the point as you have done here.

You know full well that people posting a "snippet" from references are forced to edit only a portion because the full article is NOT allowed on this board, where you immediately go to work and inappropriately chop it up and slander everyone and call them liars.

Any legitimate "professor" will tell you precisely what I gave you as can be seen by your errors and consequent blathering where you set alumbrado up here:


http://www.collarchat.com/m_1331272/mpage_11/tm.htm

If you feel the professor is incorrect by all means lucky post *your* "linguistic evidence".    LMAO






luckydog1 -> RE: NY Police Threaten to Frame Protestor as Terrorist (11/5/2007 1:47:57 PM)

Hey anyone who wants to check can go over my posts, and you will find multitudes of sources and citations.  Just Real telling yet another lie.....

If as you claim the edited thing you posted is from a source, give me the source so I can see the entire thing.  you are far too dishonest (see the start of this thread) to be trusted.

You posted a snippet, now give me the link to see the whole thing.




ameha21 -> RE: NY Police Threaten to Frame Protestor as Terrorist (11/5/2007 1:54:17 PM)

i tried the link but it didnt work....and this is just another example of the facist leanings of some so called 'americans'




Real0ne -> RE: NY Police Threaten to Frame Protestor as Terrorist (11/5/2007 2:17:16 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: luckydog1

Hey anyone who wants to check can go over my posts, and you will find multitudes of sources and citations.  Just Real telling yet another lie.....

If as you claim the edited thing you posted is from a source, give me the source so I can see the entire thing.  you are far too dishonest (see the start of this thread) to be trusted.

You posted a snippet, now give me the link to see the whole thing.


The only one who is dishonest here is you!  You call anyone who disagrees with you a liar and then when people point it out you compile lie upon lie as can be seen by the link I pasted above where I explained in detail how you do it.

DUH!   Did it ever occur to you to click on the link LMAO?






Real0ne -> RE: NY Police Threaten to Frame Protestor as Terrorist (11/5/2007 2:18:27 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ameha21

i tried the link but it didnt work....and this is just another example of the facist leanings of some so called 'americans'


may want to copy it and paste it then into your browser because they all work fine here.




luckydog1 -> RE: NY Police Threaten to Frame Protestor as Terrorist (11/5/2007 2:33:01 PM)

The link to the "grammar teacher" Real. 

And please anyone interested go read his link back to the earlier argument we had, if you want a great example of how Real (and all the 911 was an inside job folks) distort what they see.




Real0ne -> RE: NY Police Threaten to Frame Protestor as Terrorist (11/5/2007 2:57:54 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: luckydog1

The link to the "grammar teacher" Real. 

And please anyone interested go read his link back to the earlier argument we had, if you want a great example of how Real (and all the 911 was an inside job folks) distort what they see.



What for lucky are you going ot do a background check to insure the grammar teacher is a teacher?

If you have your own version of linguistic evvidence to shwo she is in error put it up man! lets take a look.






luckydog1 -> RE: NY Police Threaten to Frame Protestor as Terrorist (11/6/2007 3:01:54 AM)

I have made my point already.  There is a reason this thread was oved to random stupidity.  Anyone reading can review my previous points, and I do not think I need to add anything else.  The original post was not true.  The men never identified themsleves as Police officers, and the protestors refered to them as other than Police.




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