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RE: Taking Charge of a Submissive - 11/12/2007 4:10:41 PM   
Blaakmaan


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ORIGINAL: DMFParadox

How does a dominant dominate.... Dude.  Be honest.  What you're really asking is, "How do I talk to a girl (especially a submissive one)?"

Hey sexrobotninjakitten, how's your Saturday treating you?  (Familiar question.  Start with familiar.  Same breath/PM:) Hope it was as good as mine.  (Say waaaat?  What's so good about your day, Mr. Sir?  Leave bait.)  Three directions from here: 1) you actually had something interesting happen today.  Tell the story.  Leave bait; and after you're done, ask something like, "I feel x about all this... you know?  What do you think?"  Then ask her if she's had anything with x quality like that happen to her.  2) not a damned thing happened today.  So spin that.  "It's been quiet--I'm feeling Zen, you know?  Partly waiting for something to happen, partly just enjoying this.  It's like this totally lazy summer I had one time..."  Also, you don't necessarily have to finish the story.  Pause in the middle and ask her a question; insist, gently, on the answer, and then segue to some other topic before you finish.  This leaves the impression in her mind that she has some question she wants to ask you, without knowing exactly what she wants to ask.  If she says something that pleases you, reward her by giving her the punchline--but before you do, make sure there are other threads already out there to pick back up on. 

Don't go crazy.  This takes practice if you're not familiar with analyzing your conversations and controlling them; but as you continue talking, you'll notice opportunities to practice these tactics.  Use variety; don't say the same thing every time you open a convo.  And eventually you'll hit a topic that the girl will spooge over... let her.  Challenge her opinions ("No way, I can't believe that... what about x?" ) sometimes, and prod her "That's cool, so what happened?" sometimes, and relate to her ("That's like the time I dressed like Oscar the Grouch and she dressed like Elmo, and we had a garbage scavenger hunt in the hood--and I found a complete G.I. Joe set...") sometimes, as long as you're not hijacking the conversation at the wrong moment.  Keep the momentum moving, like music.

Then, to dominate--insert protective gestures, 'gentlemanly' flourishes in a light roleplaying manner, and call her on it in a teasing way if you sense that you can get more respect and submissive gestures in return.  At some points, outright challenge her to obey some silly rule you make up--make it a game.  Like if she typos Sir into Sar, tell her "Ohh, I like that.  It's like Sir with a southern belle accent.  I want you to call me Sar for the rest of the night, it makes me grin."  Etc.  Keep it light, and playful.  Hint that you can ratchet the intensity up, but that you're waiting for her to prove herself to you by playing with you on your terms.  Eventually, she'll give you a BIG sign that she's ready for more intensity; at that point, keep the playful, but add, "this MEANS something..." in the background.  An intense pause, a fiercer reward response for pleasing you, etc. will give her the sense that you're on the verge of actually caring about her and valuing her submission to you.

Edit: I mentioned three directions to go from that standard opening... the third direction is to completely switch tracks after and question her.  "Oh, I wanted to ask you about (x fetish/x body part/x 'nilla activity)" and then, when she responds, ignore her response and go back to your day as if you'd never left that part of the conversation.  Then go back to the sub-topic, then go to another topic, back to her, back to you, back to your day, and then tie it all together meaningfully, as if you'd planned it that way the whole time.  Keep her jumping, just close enough to the edge that she almost but not quite asks you what the hell you're talking about.  Then resolve the confusion for her.  Done right, it's magic; I've had a girl straight-up kiss me for pulling it off when she wasn't watching.  When I asked her why, she said "I just wanted to."... but I knew exactly why.  A good mind**** is a major turn-on.

Past that, you're on your own.  Good luck.


Hey, DMFParadox, maybe you should publish a Dom "how to" book!

In spite of all the "either you have it, or you don't" talk out there, I think that there are probably many guys who "have it" (i.e, the ability to dominate a submissive), but don't have a clue what to do with it (i.e, how to actually dominate a submissive)!

For myself, I know very well how to talk to a woman and draw her out, but the D/s angle-- and moving from the vanilla conversation to dominance--throws me completely!

Thanks for the kind advice!

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RE: Taking Charge of a Submissive - 11/12/2007 4:29:27 PM   
Politesub53


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Blaakmaan

Yeah, I know. The military is clearer (and less risky)!

Ask her to do something like what?

Come to attention and salute?

Give me a specific, if you can.

By the way, this is a long-distance relationship, at least for now...



Nothing beats finding a Mistress who gets you to stand to attention

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RE: Taking Charge of a Submissive - 11/12/2007 5:26:29 PM   
MissSapphire


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A club is a great place to start. Go, watch, listen, pay attention to the dynamics and the underlying currents of Doms and their Subs. Then, if you are lucky enough to meet a Sub that likes you and wants to serve you...

Well...I suppose I should just share my way and if you get something from it, great. When I interview and meet to take on a new Sub, We first meet for a drink or lunch, something very Vanilla and safe. SAFE, I think is the key word here. If we click and have chemistry, then I invite them to go out again. I take them to dinner, we may do some window shopping to share tastes in clothing. I will purchase clothing for myself that my Sub likes when we mutually decide to proceed into a relationship...another key here. EVERY Sub is a human being!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you do not understand that, then you need to high tail it outta here because someone will get hurt!

If I am wearing clothing that is appealing to my Sub, they naturally have even more of a desire to serve me. Don't forget how important attraction, kindness, and chemistry are. I ask what they like Vanilla and BDSM. I am interested in both and we do both. I try to schedule activities that are fun for both of us that are Vanilla. I will also treat my Sub to trinkets, clothing, toys that we select together.

When we enter the Dom world for the first time, we do so at a BDSM club. I ask nothing of them and usually get plenty of servitude. Here is another KEY! Respect has to be earned!!! Especially by your Sub. If I earn the respect of my Sub, I am a successful Mistress. Without their respect for you, there is no hope of anything other than cruelty and eventually resentment.

I always start out slow...spend a lot of time talking...although I may say very little or nothing at all our first night to a BDSM club. I watch my Sub, their body language, which will tell you a lot about where they stand with you. I may begin to give small cues with my eyes or even somethingas simple as hesitating before walking down a flight of stairs. I wait for them to realize that htey need to come back and take my hand to protect me from falling as I glide down. Also watch how they react to the environment around them. Are they cringing when they watch a good flogging? Or are they cringing and looking fearful? Or...are they getting arroused. You can learn a lot about what makes your Sub tick if you just pay attention to their body language.

I realize that these are all very small gestures, but as they say...It is the little things that mean a lot. If you are patient and kind, take your time...training is the easy part. Much of it, once you begin can be done with very little said. Don't forget to ask your Sub if they like and are comfortable with what is happening at all times. I ask if they are ready to be tested. If they are truly my Sub and are ready, they will say yes. If they are not ready and you push too hard too fast, watch the tower crumble before you. You can deeply scar a Sub if you do not take steps to protect them as they protect and serve you. It is a two way street my friend!

Good luck to you!

Mistress Sappphire

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RE: Taking Charge of a Submissive - 11/15/2007 5:50:58 PM   
ABMaster


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As you are getting to know each other, she will let you know in subtle ways how she is feeling about it.

When you sense that the time is right, if there have been no direct signals from her, you might simply ask, 'Are you ready to begin accepting instruction from me?'

If you are meeting in person for the first time, perhaps take a single flower and place it on the table, but don't give it to her. Tell her that, if or when she is ready to begin to submit to you, she may pick up the flower and give it to you. Then forget about the flower and spend quality time getting to know her. She will choose the time to give you the flower, if she is going to. It's a beautiful way for her to tell you when she is ready.

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RE: Taking Charge of a Submissive - 11/15/2007 10:46:38 PM   
DMFParadox


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Oy.  That sounds more like a personal fantasy than a useful tip.

Regarding your response:  Thanks.  I might, after I'm done writing about all the other secrets of the universe--I have a list I'm working down.  Anyway, a clarification.  Talking to a woman is as easy as opening your mouth, and so is drawing her out; I should have straight-up said seduce a woman, which is not the same thing at all.  Standard seduction and the male Dom / female sub dynamic have a lot of commonalities.  And the feeling of being seduced is very much like the feeling submissives of either gender have when they've chosen to submit to another.  Damned near identical, in type if not in degree, as far as I can tell.

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