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mnottertail -> RE: bush,now the least popular president,in history of the Gallop Poll (11/9/2007 11:00:10 AM)
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I will agree that it is in part incorrect. The use of CPs makes it clear that it will continue stopgap at last years level. Now---supplemental appropriations (which is pretty much how this war in Iraq is funded) are pretty underhanded and despicable methods for a President to make the budget (a point I was making on another thread until you started getting huffy and doing the lying shit...but my take on how the process actually works from what I have seen of it, is very loosely like the law if at all, and certainly nothing like you read about in high school civics)
while there appear to be 12 major bills involved in the budget at present, I will point this out, which essentially makes Sinergys statement 100% correct in it's conclusion and one is left arguing the semantics of it:
"A bridge fund is always possible," said OMB Watch policy analyst Adam Hughes, referring to a measure that would cordon off funds in the defense bill to be used only for war. "But even without it, they would have enough in the budget to sustain what's currently happening."
Moreover, even if no baseline budget money is used for war costs, Congress plans to continue financing the war at the current rate, House Defense Appropriations Chairman John Murtha told the Congressional Quarterly on Wednesday night.
Congress is currently operating on a "continuing resolution," or CR, which allows the war to be funded at the same levels it was funded last year. According to Murtha, Congress plans to renew the CR in mid-November, allowing war spending to continue unabated into the new year.
No proposals to impose restrictions on CR funds have been announced. Last month, a group of Congress members pledged to add provisions for withdrawing all troops from Iraq to any future war funding legislation, but that plan will not apply to the CR, according to a spokesman for Congresswoman Barbara Lee, one of the crafters of the plan. "We're really waiting for the debate on the supplemental to bring that up," the spokesman said in an interview, adding that Lee will probably not vote for the upcoming CR if it includes more funds for war.
Without a specific resolution barring all war funding, it would be virtually impossible for Congress to end the war by the power of the purse alone, according to Larry Korb, a Senior Fellow at the Center for American Progress and a former assistant secretary of defense.........
The above from this site:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/110207J.shtml
It is one of many, but I am probably not going to get in another mordant argument about the fact that by and large the president makes the fucking budget and by and large the congress pretty fucking much has to go along with it, sure they can shuck and juke this and that but they pretty much have to toe the line, and if they dont...then the prez can pretty much cobble available monies from other places in the budget.
Anyway, to avoid any more nitpicking over this shit, you are right, I am lying and congress makes and enforces the budget. the president has nothing much to do with it other than pretty clawless begging and bitching and hoping and praying and wishing..........
You might be able to see where it could be taken that you pointed out to the assembled readers of this thread, many more reading in confused dazes than are posting here that 100% of what Sinergy said in that ENTIRE paragraph was false and misleading.......which of course by your own volition it is not.
Ron
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