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RE: JUST about the kink, or... - 11/10/2007 12:21:15 PM   
SirJohnMandevill


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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

And half the males who actually DO make an effort to show that they aren't just following their cocks around have only the thinnest veneer of control which is easily ripped aside at a moment of frustration.



I must be in the other 10 percent, then. My former sub and I were married, albeit not well, to our respective spouses. We knew up front we weren't going to have a LTR, only play when and where we could find it. But that didn't stop us from forming a deep emotional bond, and we remain good friends to this day, even though she is out of the lifestyle.

FWIW, my philosophy is that I want to know a sub as a person before I play with her, even casually. Just my way of doing things. Your milage may vary.

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RE: JUST about the kink, or... - 11/10/2007 12:35:45 PM   
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Unfortunately people attach odd labels to people once they are informed that someone is not "normal". Yet you'd be shocked that, behind all the veneers, many may share your beliefs. Perhaps you're intimating with the wrong people.

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RE: JUST about the kink, or... - 11/10/2007 12:51:23 PM   
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I've run into this problem here as well, which sometimes confuses me. At times, it makes sense - people are here looking for kink, so they only wanna talk about the kink. Other times, it really confuses me, because you'd think that here, of all places, people would get that and be a bit more comfortable with their 'status' as kinky.

Any advice on talking to folks on here, where my kinks are already bared for all to see?

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RE: JUST about the kink, or... - 11/10/2007 1:07:38 PM   
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fast reply-
From a Man's perspective-
I get it, applecandy, you want friends who can see you as a person, but also have no strings attached sex...but you want them to be friends, when it suits your need, and sex partners, when it suits your need.

Man Behavior 101 "Never Toy With A Rutting Bull"

Trouble is, Men don't really work that way. I wish we did, but we don't.
Is our sexuality so trivial, so minor that it can be kept easily under control, leashed like a timid kitten, only brought out when it is convenient for us to toy with, then put away when it suits us?

Speaking as a Man...sexuality is so powerful, so primal, such a commanding drive, that once you cross that Rubicon of signalling your availability, it crowds out any other desire. When a Man is seeing you as sexually available with no-strings-attached, it literally means He can reach orgasm with you, whenever and however He wants- without any hard work or effort, whether it is at a time of your choosing or not.

You see sexual pleasure and deep friendship as interchangeable desires- but Men don't. Asking a Man to keep His sexuality surrendered to your whim and desire is not only insulting, it is futile.

If you want to be a platonic friend, great...I am a perfect gentleman with the women I work with, every day...if you want a lover/boyfriend/husband, great...Men can do that, with a lot of hard work and effort....but if you signal your no-strings-attached sexual availability, don't be surprised if even as you are chattering on about your feelings, to find yourself pushed over the arm of a couch and mounted from behind by the raging beast that you yourself unleashed.



At a local BDSM club one night, we assembled a panel of Doms... female and male... and the topic of discussion was "What are the differences between what males and females look for in a potential partner?"
 
It was rather interesting... The women were requested to answer first and a long discussion went on about what qualities they look for in a partner.... manners.. intellect... maturity... service...the way they initially approach them.... whether they are interested in them as women, and whether they can connect with them on an emotional level that is satisfactory to both.... etc., etc., etc....
 
Then they asked the male Doms.  The three of them looked at each other... the first one said, "The first thing I look at in a partner is tits."  The second one said... "I look at her and assess... Am I going to get laid?".... The third one said, "Hey... what can we say... women want all those things to know if they want to get to know someone better.  For Us?   Hell... it's all about moisture and friction.  Any man who says the thoughts of sex aren't foremost on their minds is only trying to fool himself.  Our mentality is usually that of cavemen.  If we can't kill it or eat it then we want to fuck it."
 
To say the least, it caused a good deal of laughter, however, as the discussion progressed it was brought out how frustrating it is when two such opposing motivators collide.
 
DISCLAIMER:  I don't necessarily agree with the comments made by those men.... I am just sharing it with you due to the tenor of this thread.
 
 

< Message edited by MystressDream -- 11/10/2007 1:09:27 PM >


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RE: JUST about the kink, or... - 11/10/2007 1:10:04 PM   
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Yeah but there are lots of egos and abusers here in the cybercosm of reality. Hey, we all have personalities but, in forums like this, kink takes the tops. If you're seeking mutual respect, this may not be the best place to find it. Everyone has their own intersts and specialties. Not everyone respects yours or your right to be who you are.

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RE: JUST about the kink, or... - 11/10/2007 1:44:09 PM   
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Regarding the OP, I've only ran into this maybe a handful of times in my life.  The vast, vast, VAST majority haven't been like that....  and those that have been I already knew before they found out/I told them I am bi and/or kinky were either idiots, only after sex, or both.

Generally, you can see them coming before the subject even comes up.

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RE: JUST about the kink, or... - 11/10/2007 2:01:13 PM   
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I am one it is not the first thing i look for. Comming from the rock n roll lifestyle where partes are a ton and drunks are not fun. I want a human being someone that gets what it is to belong and be apart of someones life. Security in a relationship which is myth these days. Knowing that i can trust the person i am with.  someone who understands the world in simple terms

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RE: JUST about the kink, or... - 11/11/2007 1:09:35 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64

I am one it is not the first thing i look for. Comming from the rock n roll lifestyle where partes are a ton and drunks are not fun. I want a human being someone that gets what it is to belong and be apart of someones life. Security in a relationship which is myth these days. Knowing that i can trust the person i am with.  someone who understands the world in simple terms


And it is men like you that many women I know look for.  <smile>

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RE: JUST about the kink, or... - 11/17/2007 6:52:56 AM   
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What you describe sounds much like my relationship with my 'friend with benefits' (I am, if it's not glaringly obvious from my photo, married). We hang out a lot, talk about our lives, music, films. Sometimes, when we manage to get it together, we have sex. About 70% of the time we have sex, she also ends up scratched and bruised.

Your photo really appeals to my 'girls with glasses' kink btw.

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RE: JUST about the kink, or... - 11/17/2007 7:32:21 AM   
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Could it be you are sending a mixed message - You engage in casual play -which is fine - not a judgment, then you also want the friendship afterwards. One of the benefits of dating and casual sex is that you don't have to enter into any relationship or 'friendship' . It is what it is - casual play. 

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RE: JUST about the kink, or... - 11/17/2007 8:39:33 AM   
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Food for thought ... it is said if you don't set expectations high then no one will  rise to meet them.
We won't play with anyone that are not friends of ours or friends of friends that we have meet before and are getting to know as friends. We have made some friends that are even more special to me than ones I've had since high school. We entered into the lifestyle not looking for others to play w/ but other like minded people. Some of our friends play w/ the same sex but it was never put out there when we met ... we only found out later thus our friendship was never based on there sexual preferences. The info was not hidden but just never put in the for front of there conversations. That way you see the person first; then there sexual being second.
This lifestyle for us is not about extra sex ... it's about the D/s and with some physical play.
 
In this journey of life you can never have to many friends.
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