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Sundew02 -> RE: Sending out photos to a stranger (7/10/2004 11:11:59 AM)

Laughing, I didn't know that was even a site. I was using it as an example, like w w w. kissmy grits . com. I spaced that out so that it wouldn't be highlighted, that too may be a real site. What I was saying if you only want to look at perfect bodies, with no substance, you can find online pics everywhere. Sundew




iwillserveu -> RE: Sending out photos to a stranger (7/10/2004 11:24:45 AM)

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Laughing, I didn't know that was even a site. I was using it as an example, like w w w. kissmy grits . com. I spaced that out so that it wouldn't be highlighted, that too may be a real site. What I was saying if you only want to look at perfect bodies, with no substance, you can find online pics everywhere. Sundew


And with human skin too?[:D]




ThornBlood -> RE: Sending out photos to a stranger (7/10/2004 3:27:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

Hello,

A photo is not always a good indicator of a person...

http://www.fanta.dk/news.asp?nid=756019C4-33C9-4253-A3C2-1955E12526F6

Sinergy


Well.. I see what you mean [:)]

John




TallDarkAndWitty -> RE: Sending out photos to a stranger (7/10/2004 4:12:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ThornBlood
Well.. I see what you mean [:)]


You do? I didn't...but I did laugh.

Yours,
Taggard




Sinergy -> RE: Sending out photos to a stranger (7/10/2004 7:30:30 PM)

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Well.. I see what you mean


I very seldom see what I mean, but thank you very much.

Sinergy




DrJohnSea41 -> RE: Sending out photos to a stranger (7/11/2004 12:33:54 PM)

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I'm not remotely interested in someone's shell, I want to know who they ARE, not what they look like.

When I'm asked if I wish to see their pics, I politely decline. I have no inner need to see them until after I feel I actually know them a little, and then - only then - do I find it nice to place a FACE to the name. Note the FACE. I care nothing for the body.


That's quite refreshing, although, as we all know, it runs counter to the attitude about 99% of all Americans. In fact, it's disturbingly interesting that numerous studies are showing that personal ads without pictures are slowly dying off. Newspapers report a severe decline in personals submissions, but personals websites in the vanilla world show a similar decline in ads without pictures. I suspect that the simultaneous trends of users becoming savvy with the technology to upload images and the well established fact that users browse ads with images much more frequently is simply pushing non-photo ads aside.

There are obviously many pros and cons to this situation, but I think there is one that isn't usually discussed because its effects are somewhat subtle. Something sociologists are beginning to discover is that "choice" turns out to be a feature in our lives that is not open ended. In other words, it turns out that having too many choices has a negative impact on the chooser just as much as having no choices does. There is presently a lot of evidence which suggests that when presented with a huge range of choices, people have a strong tendency to either make no choice at all, or have considerably less satisfaction and commitment to the choice they do make. In relation to personals, the connection should be pretty clear.

So far, it looks as if the very fact that so many people are online means that our potential "choices" are enormous and by posting images this only spreads the range of choices by the fact that it plays on our very human impulse to fall prey to simple physical attraction. In English, this means that 1) we have LOTS of people to "choose" from and 2) they range wildly from "ugly" to a "10" regardless of the fact that such a choice is subjective. Studies already show that when faced with such diversity of choice, subjects frequently report LESS satisfaction, more frustration and a general degree of happiness LOWER than subjects with much smaller sets of choices. In short, we become overwhelmed by choice and default to more primal instincts to deal with it -- we rank everything! Is it any wonder then, that we see this "tyranny of the beautiful people" where attractive people get so much more mail than unattractive ones, no matter how well written and interesting an ad may be? This isn't just "shallowness" at work -- it is as much symptomatic of the very nature of choices as it is just attraction. It turns out that people behave the same way when they look at websites of objects for sale!

My point isn't that pictures are bad. It is simply that 1) it is inevitable that if you don't show your face you'll be ignored more and more anyway and (ironically) 2) this push towards images actually marginalizes people to a GREATER extent than we saw in the days of text ads! Sort of a Catch-22 isn't it?

What can we do? No one knows yet. So far, just realizing how easily we are manipulated by choices is slow to catch on so the way to break free of the tyranny of our unconscious nature has yet to be explored.

John




kiki blue -> RE: Sending out photos to a stranger (7/11/2004 3:57:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ShadeDiva

Personally ...

.. I don't WANT a picture.

I'm not remotely interested in someone's shell, I want to know who they ARE, not what they look like.


That's how I feel. I want to get to know the person, and you can have 1000 photos of a person, and it still won't capture who they really are.

I don't need pics to start talking to someone. Once I've gotten to know them a bit, and decided I want to keep talking to them, then I may want them.

Besides, I've known quite a few people who send out old photos of themself, which don't reflect who they are now, which is what I'm interested in.

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When I'm asked if I wish to see their pics, I politely decline. I have no inner need to see them until after I feel I actually know them a little, and then - only then - do I find it nice to place a FACE to the name. Note the FACE. I care nothing for the body.


Exactly! I don't respond to men who send me photos of their genitals as way of opening gambit.

"You've got a dick, is that all?"




afmvdp -> RE: Sending out photos to a stranger (7/11/2004 4:38:31 PM)

if someone is unwilling to send a picture, sub or Dom they are likely hiding something. In this tech age there's no one who can't at least get access to a polaroid and a scanner if not a $20 webcam.




perverseangelic -> RE: Sending out photos to a stranger (7/11/2004 4:44:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: afmvdp

if someone is unwilling to send a picture, sub or Dom they are likely hiding something. In this tech age there's no one who can't at least get access to a polaroid and a scanner if not a $20 webcam.


Disgareed. They simply might not want to send a picture. They might feel no need. They might prefer to meet in person to sending pictures which misrepresent. I would have no problem with somoene who didn't want to send me a picture. I'd meet him/her the same way I'd meet anyone- ina public place around lots and lots of people.

Some people just don't like pictures. Some might not want their lifestyle invovlement to be public knowledge. There are hundereds more "they mights" aside from the idea that they are hiding something.




iwillserveu -> RE: Sending out photos to a stranger (7/11/2004 6:15:57 PM)

Dear afmdvp,

Thank you for noting the obvious. Some subs want to hide their identity. How are they supposed to know you are not a 14 year old hacker for the Republican Christian Front.[:)]

That is a joke, but I assure you it is a real concer. (No, not the Republican Christian Front or The Judgemental Aliens Imposing Morality on Unsespecting Humans Muhu Hahaha, inc. part[:)])




afmvdp -> RE: Sending out photos to a stranger (7/12/2004 5:40:15 AM)

Perhaps I am just more stern then. If they choose to come to me, I require certain things. If they are so unsure or afraid and fall into the many "what ifs" or "they mights" as you put it then they are not conditioned enough to work for what I need. I'm an all or nothing person and found that ambiguity only leads to disaray. If they are hiding from me in the begining, who knows what else they might be hiding even after we've begun. You have to first break the shell before you can expect to break the soul. I will agree to disagree with you on this point though as others just may not be as stringent as I am.




TallDarkAndWitty -> RE: Sending out photos to a stranger (7/12/2004 7:45:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: afmvdp

If they are so unsure or afraid and fall into the many "what ifs" or "they mights" as you put it then they are not conditioned enough to work for what I need.


Yep, yep, yep. In this crazy online meat-market, one has to set up certain "filters" or risk being overwhelmed by the sheer volume of possible connections. Getting a recent picture is one such filter. I am out and plan on getting even more out. I simply will not consider someone who is so "in" as to be afraid of sending a picture over the net.

Perhaps I am missing out on some wonderful intellectual exchanges. But that is a gamble I am willing to take.

Yours,
Taggard




afmvdp -> RE: Sending out photos to a stranger (7/12/2004 8:32:57 AM)

Couldn't agree more. I didn't join this site or any other in the past for that matter to have witty banter with a night in front of the computer screen. There are too many psuedosubs out there who enjoy nothing more than begging for more abuse while safely tucked behind their screen name and an internet connection far away from any real discipline at all. Let alone all the men posing as females, whether transgendered or not, and all the preteen marilyn manson fans that read a Poppy Z Bryte book and now they are in search of eternal domination. Weeding through these people by making them jump through as many hoops as possible is only necessary. Whether that be their fear of sending recent pictures or live pictures to actually meeting, even in a public place. It's just a shame really.




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