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The central witness in a California lawsuit against AT&T says the government is vacuuming up billions of e-mails and phone calls as they pass through an AT&T switching station in San Francisco, California.

Mark Klein, a retired AT&T technician, helped connect a device in 2003 that he says diverted and copied onto a government supercomputer every call, e-mail, and Internet site access on AT&T lines.

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It's so that they can stop future 9/11 attacks. Some say that's not important, others say it is.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

You don't seem to know anything about it.

In reality they used machines to "listen" for key words, in order to narrow things down - and it's all information that's crossing international borders, primarily relating to terrorism.

It's so that they can stop future 9/11 attacks. Some say that's not important, others say it is.

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ORIGINAL: CuriousLord

Intelligence deputy to America: Rethink privacy

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The central witness in a California lawsuit against AT&T says the government is vacuuming up billions of e-mails and phone calls as they pass through an AT&T switching station in San Francisco, California.

Mark Klein, a retired AT&T technician, helped connect a device in 2003 that he says diverted and copied onto a government supercomputer every call, e-mail, and Internet site access on AT&T lines.

Is this suggesting that the government is tapping and recording calls/emails universally? Because, I have to admit, that's more than just a little creepy.

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Is this suggesting that the government is tapping and recording calls/emails universally? Because, I have to admit, that's more than just a little creepy.

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In reality they used machines to "listen" for key words, in order to narrow things down - and it's all information that's crossing international borders, primarily relating to terrorism.

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ORIGINAL: EvilGenie

They are not recording it all. There is a building which resembles a shopping mall in stature where a computer nearly that size is housed. This computer scans for keywords used repeatedly by either people speaking internationally or here in the US. It is programmed for terrorist talk key words and others that regard terrorist organizations. These words must be repeatedly detected over a span of time in order for it to red flag the speakers.

Please don't ask where my information is from though I will say that I have one cousin in one organization and one in another. I also paid attention to the information presented when this computer was unveiled years ago from many impartial sources. Frankly they don't give a rat's flying testicle about we boring people out here carrying on conversations, even pervy ones (adults only)!

Be Well,

EG

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

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ORIGINAL: EvilGenie

They are not recording it all. There is a building which resembles a shopping mall in stature where a computer nearly that size is housed. This computer scans for keywords used repeatedly by either people speaking internationally or here in the US. It is programmed for terrorist talk key words and others that regard terrorist organizations. These words must be repeatedly detected over a span of time in order for it to red flag the speakers.

Please don't ask where my information is from though I will say that I have one cousin in one organization and one in another. I also paid attention to the information presented when this computer was unveiled years ago from many impartial sources. Frankly they don't give a rat's flying testicle about we boring people out here carrying on conversations, even pervy ones (adults only)!

Be Well,

EG

You are not discussing the current program, covered by EFF v. AT&T.

In the current instance, SPLITTERS are placed on the NETWORK BACKBONE, and ALL TRAFFIC copied to US Government and /or US Government Contractors computers for storage and analysis.

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

      It all goes through the big filters, Fargle.  Of course, the drug dealers are talking about about 'movies' and 'shoes' and the smart-asses are asking Grandma how her plutoniun garden is doing this year.

     

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ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet

Knowledge is power. The more you know about anything and everything about everyone, the more you have the upper hand. That's how Uncle Sam stays on top.

When you're the ruler or leader over everyone, you have to have an ace in the hole. After all, many always want to bring down number one.

When it comes down to human nature, it's natural to assume we're being spied on. After all, most of us are tempted/curious to spy. Imagine actually having the means to do it 24/7.

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ORIGINAL: EvilGenie
Yes I know all about the SPLITTERS. However my point still stands that they don't give a flaming whatever what we 'average Joes' are talking about and since I am not a terrorist or criminal they can listen to me and my husband in Morocco (me in the US temporarily) say I love you and speak in Arabic all they want. [:)]

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ORIGINAL: EvilGenie

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ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet

Knowledge is power. The more you know about anything and everything about everyone, the more you have the upper hand. That's how Uncle Sam stays on top.

When you're the ruler or leader over everyone, you have to have an ace in the hole. After all, many always want to bring down number one.

When it comes down to human nature, it's natural to assume we're being spied on. After all, most of us are tempted/curious to spy. Imagine actually having the means to do it 24/7.

And let us not forget the large number of 'home grown' who also wish to bring the US down.