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RE: Pain...Pleasure? - 11/16/2007 8:19:14 AM   
YesMistressIrish


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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

Labels are important...they let us know a little bit of who we're talking to...and it's important to keep in mind that that particular label should not limit the individual it's being used in reference to but to expand our understanding who that person is.

That being said....my own personal masochistic tendancies are a little off. I get off emotionally and spiritually through pain. And because of that I get off physically. The scenes I love best are the ones I regret asking for while they're occuring. The ones I really don't want to be in in the moment. Before I, if it were in me to do, I'd beg for them...and afterwards I fly and so incredibly sexually charged because of where I was in THAT moment. Because of my emotional and spiritual high. Someone once told me I'm the cathartic masochist.

I think that's VERY different from someone wired another way...to process pain as pleasure. As a sadist...I'd likely lose interest quickly. As a sadist I want to hurt someone who will volunteer to be there...and then go "oh shit!"

And that's my take on it. Thanks for the input everybody!


BoiJen,
 
The parts I highlighted above...
Yum! 
 
Cathartic masochism and being able to get off on it, that's beautiful. I so hope to find a 24/7 relationship with someone who has those delightful reactions and experiences them in a spiritual way. Thanks for sharing what you did.
 
Irish

< Message edited by YesMistressIrish -- 11/16/2007 8:20:20 AM >

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RE: Pain...Pleasure? - 11/16/2007 1:46:45 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BoiJen

Labels are important...they let us know a little bit of who we're talking to...and it's important to keep in mind that that particular label should not limit the individual it's being used in reference to but to expand our understanding who that person is.

That being said....my own personal masochistic tendancies are a little off. I get off emotionally and spiritually through pain. And because of that I get off physically. The scenes I love best are the ones I regret asking for while they're occuring. The ones I really don't want to be in in the moment. Before I, if it were in me to do, I'd beg for them...and afterwards I fly and so incredibly sexually charged because of where I was in THAT moment. Because of my emotional and spiritual high. Someone once told me I'm the cathartic masochist.

I think that's VERY different from someone wired another way...to process pain as pleasure. As a sadist...I'd likely lose interest quickly. As a sadist I want to hurt someone who will volunteer to be there...and then go "oh shit!"

And that's my take on it. Thanks for the input everybody!



Hi BoiJen,
I've bolded parts of your last comment only because, even though read alone they seem contradictory to the rest of your post, taken as a whole they are so true.  I like the pain for itself; I find it cathartic, purging, like a huge stress relief.  Don't get me wrong, it hurts like friggin hell mostly but to be able to accept it and absorb it and just let go with it...ahh, heaven.  Like you, the best scenes are the ones I'm wondering WTF am I doing here?!?  But once the endorphins kick in and I'm floating off, the pain doesn't necessarily become more tolerable or pleasurable but I seem to care less.  If it is kept up or intensified or another implement used, I'll fly completely and at that time it does truly become pleasurable.  Every strike resonates and echoes throughout, becoming literally orgasmic.  Pain processed as pleasure?  It is still pain but it is pleasurable pain.  I have no idea if any of this made any sense. 

From your sadist's point of view, What If:  they volunteered and then said "Oh shit!".  Would stopping make you feel more sadistic, knowing they really did want it even though they are at a rough spot?  Would carrying on (assuming no safe word called) be more sadistic knowing you are getting off on their pain but also knowing that their pain will probably morph into pleasure?  Once they fly and are absolutely getting off, would you stop because the sadism isn't quite there anymore?  Or would you continue knowing they loved it?  I am curious how a sadist's mind would work in these instances.  Hell, I'm curious about everything...lol.

Thank you for a thought provoking thread.

And MistressIrish:  I do hope you find your own 'cathartic masochist'...it can be magic when the right chemistry is there.  Well wishes.

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