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AMaster -> RE: Why do submissives disappear??? (11/13/2007 8:26:30 AM)

There are those who play games in all lifestyles.  Perhaps they are just out to see how many will answer them.  Possibly some of them are really vanilla and just want the fantasy- when it becomes real, they retreat.  Just like the vanilla world, some are just teases.




sexyred1 -> RE: Why do submissives disappear??? (11/13/2007 8:29:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Blaakmaan

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Why do fish nibble but not bite?


Interesting philosophical question.

I don't know.

But, are we fish?



Apparently so. Thus, the "there are so many fish in the sea out there for you" comments that keep subs and Doms disappearing in the pursuit of that perfect fish.




DiurnalVampire -> RE: Why do submissives disappear??? (11/13/2007 8:30:57 AM)

Subs, slaves, Doms, Dommes, switches...
There are those of every category that disappear after an email or two.
There are some that just never reply, which has its very own ranting post somewhere...
There are others that will make plans to meet and then not show.

You name it, theres a good number of people who fall off the face of the earth no matter how things seem to be going. You may nt have told them what they wanted to hear, and they were not willing to invest time. They may have gotten cold feet, met someone who DID tell them what they wnated to hear...
There are a million reasons why, but al the same effect.  They disappeared. So, rather than looking back and wondering why someone did it, look forward and find someone new. No harm no foul, and consider yourself fortunate they did it before you had much time or enegry invested in a relationship.

DV

I would rather be the fish than the worm... *smirk* and I obviosuly need a nap.




sexyred1 -> RE: Why do submissives disappear??? (11/13/2007 8:31:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Blaakmaan


Actually, that's kind of my point...  Except, in the reverse!

I've been on personals sites in the vanilla world (Yahoo Personals, Black People Meet, etc.), and in my experience that doesn't happen on vanilla sites.  At least, not to this extent.




No way. It happens to everyone I know who is on vanilla sites, match.com, etc. It is not confined to this type of site. Be assured of that.




toservez -> RE: Why do submissives disappear??? (11/13/2007 9:16:26 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Aceton

Yes, dissapearing is an act that knows no social, religious, gender, or racial bounds. At any time, anyone online may suddenly dissapear. This is why the use of the collar has gained prevalence in BDSM society, and why the collar is often locked with a key or combination lock. Some wily subs have been known to slip less secure collars and run about the neighbourhood causing mayem.

Moral of the story: People are weird online. Wait until you can tie them up in person before getting too attached.



I enjoyed reading this greatly and the moral is so dead on.

Both genders and roles have people that disappear from the other side. There are many reasons that most have already been mentioned. Whenever I read threads like this, I just like to point out the fact that there can be so many reasons and to classify them as “fake” or purely wannabes is just probably not a way to learn from our experiences on that side.

As Aceton wrote it is always wise not to get emotionally invested to a person you have not met in person and also met in the plural form.





Dnomyar -> RE: Why do submissives disappear??? (11/13/2007 10:04:33 AM)

Cleste43.  Mmm could it also be that their father or husband walks into the room???  To the op. If the first time bothers you then wait till all the rest of the times. Learn to live with it.




CollegeConundrum -> RE: Why do submissives disappear??? (11/13/2007 11:19:23 AM)

They were all chopped up and found in oil barrels in Kansas City.  [sm=ugh.gif]




LadyLynx -> RE: Why do submissives disappear??? (11/13/2007 12:17:56 PM)

Blaakman, I have had that happen to me on vanilla sites. It has happened to friends too. in fact I remember on one the forum's there was someone complaining about it! Imagine that! lol. :)


OOOOOOOOOO I didn't even notice I had a paddle! weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!




juliaoceania -> RE: Why do submissives disappear??? (11/13/2007 12:23:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Blaakmaan

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ORIGINAL: IdiotMale

As it is in the vanilla world,so to is in the BDSM world.Both subs and doms/dommes sometimes just disappear. Sometimes people just lose interest or discover what they found wasn't what they thought it was...Such is life. I've done it, have had it done to me and I suspect most on here have disappeared at least once in their lives.You thought you wanted a piece of fruit,but at the last second decided on the chocoloate and rightly or  wrongly you never explained why to the fruit...shit happens.


Actually, that's kind of my point...  Except, in the reverse!

I've been on personals sites in the vanilla world (Yahoo Personals, Black People Meet, etc.), and in my experience that doesn't happen on vanilla sites.  At least, not to this extent.

If this "phenomenon" was the same thing as happened on vanilla sites, I wouldn't be surprised by it.  I would have expected it.

But, in my experience, if  a woman contacts me on a vanilla site, and I respond in a moderately civilized and intelligent way (as I always do, of course!), she'll write back and continue the conversation.  Why else would she have bothered to contact me in the first place?

Here, though, it's something else...

Baffles me!



I have had more men poof on "vanilla" sites than on BDSM ones. Dominant men can be overwhelming in their desire to rush to the finish line and seal the deal, in my experience. Vanilla men do not pressure, and in fact they tend to disappear without warning. It never mattered to me that they do this, because before I become involved with a person I consider them a free agent to have whatever sort of interactions they desire... if they do not desire an interaction with me, I do not want an email from them anyways. If I am involved with them, well yes they owe me at least a "goodbye, this is not working for me".

I suppose I do not understand all the expectations that people have of each other over the internet when they are getting to know each other. I have been the sub that poofed before. Usually because I put off emailing a dominant until it felt weird to do so, and the reason I put off emailing them in the first place is because I could feel in my gut it was an interaction that I did not want. I would answer emails that asked "what happened" if I was asked, but I did not feel I owed it to the person, I was being polite but I did not feel as though it was something I should or should not do.

When I was looking I emailed with many dominants and screened them through initial emails, often they did not get past two or three emails back and forth... which is not that much investment in my opinion. I might not continue to stay in touch because I did not like their politics, or because their kinks were not a match for my own, or something about their emails creeped me out... it might be just the vibe I got from what they wrote, and nothing I could put my finger on... but I trust my gut every time.




Searcher38 -> RE: Why do submissives disappear??? (11/13/2007 12:23:39 PM)

I used to see people appear and disapper; then I stopped drinking.




MstrSkyWoIf -> RE: Why do submissives disappear??? (11/13/2007 9:38:44 PM)

There are many reasons this happens one is they are scam artists trying to start up a conversation with a desperate man who will send them money to get out of a bad situation that rally dose not exist. Others leave because they have been hurt by some ass saying he is a Dom or Maser after reading a few books. They put the label on and here I am MasterDomLord LMFAO. So the reason are as varied as the sub the same can be said about Masters.




lateralist1 -> RE: Why do submissives disappear??? (11/14/2007 9:12:53 AM)

Because it's very easy not to think of the person at the end of your computer as a real person.
Computers are very unstable. They go wrong and lose all your contacts.
Same with mobile phones.
Landlines are the only trustworthy form of communication.
Even snail mail gets lost sometimes.
I'm quite happy to give the right relationship years to develop.
With all it's draw backs this is the only way to find the right partner.
And with my luck he's bound to live on the other side of the world.




ELUSIVE1 -> RE: Why do submissives disappear??? (11/14/2007 4:49:47 PM)

life happens....I bounce on and off of here all the time--I never make first contact with Dominants though, and I certainly wouldn't be so rude as to not reply to conversation I started....I have blockedsome when they say or do something that sends red flags up...I am sure anyone who is blocked thinks I disappeared...




Solinear -> RE: Why do submissives disappear??? (11/14/2007 5:18:29 PM)

From looking at many of the sub/slave profiles, I get rather humored by the 'Do-Me' complaints by Domme.  I'm not saying that their claims aren't 100% justified, but it's definitely not a 'male sub' phenomenon.  I think that I disregard at least half of the otherwise qualifying bifem slaves/subs because their profiles actually read something more like "Here are the ways that I demand you use me (all sexual)" while going on for 75% of their profile about it.  This is how I find best to avoid having people disappear (still happens - might be happening right now).  Kinda makes me laugh and think "You're a *slave* - you don't get to dictate anything, if I put a chastity belt on your for the first six months and make you watch me have sex with everyone but you, that's just the way it is".  I don't mind the submissives that have profiles, it's just the 'slaves' that put that stuff in there that has me shaking my head.




LadyLynx -> RE: Why do submissives disappear??? (11/14/2007 5:36:33 PM)

Solinear, while I pretty much agree with your statement,I do want to point out that a slave can still dictate, (to an extent.) where the relationship is going to go.  Of course it goes without saying that there should be a hell of alot of talking before collaring! like if a slave girl has no interest in being shared/loaned out, she needs a Master that wants monogamy.




lusciouslips19 -> RE: Why do submissives disappear??? (11/14/2007 5:37:20 PM)

I saw a journal entry from someone. He actually was listed as someones favorite and blocked by them all at the same time. For no apprent reason. Not everyone here is playing with a full deck. And lots of jokers stack the deck....




lusciouslips19 -> RE: Why do submissives disappear??? (11/14/2007 5:54:15 PM)

On vanilla sites i have had a man wink at me countless times but when I respond to the wink with an e-mail, not answer back. This happened repeatedly with the same man. I finally blocked him. Many are just playing around. maybe because the perfect fish is out there...somewhere. Or they are married and just getting thrills, or just getting thrills by messing with your brain.




juliaoceania -> RE: Why do submissives disappear??? (11/14/2007 6:16:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

On vanilla sites i have had a man wink at me countless times but when I respond to the wink with an e-mail, not answer back. This happened repeatedly with the same man. I finally blocked him. Many are just playing around. maybe because the perfect fish is out there...somewhere. Or they are married and just getting thrills, or just getting thrills by messing with your brain.


Those sites often do not let you email back and forth unless you are willing to pay for the service... they will only allow you to put up a profile and "wink".... so he was not weird perhaps, just extremely cheap[:D]




Solinear -> RE: Why do submissives disappear??? (11/14/2007 8:01:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyLynx

Solinear, while I pretty much agree with your statement,I do want to point out that a slave can still dictate, (to an extent.) where the relationship is going to go.  Of course it goes without saying that there should be a hell of alot of talking before collaring! like if a slave girl has no interest in being shared/loaned out, she needs a Master that wants monogamy.


Yes and no... they can try and make sure that the relationship is going to go in a particular direction.  The best way to do that is to simply pick someone that is looking for what it is that the sub is looking to offer.  Sort of like the "No limits" slaves who really mean "I want someone who has the same limits as me so that I never have to say no".




liminalRapture -> RE: Why do submissives disappear??? (11/14/2007 8:18:09 PM)

I did that to someone once--those little boxes--they were in a row and I clicked the wrong one.  Now granted, I realized it later and fixed it, but I'm not a techie.  I hate my so-called mouse.  So it could have happened just by someone checking one box too many!

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

I saw a journal entry from someone. He actually was listed as someones favorite and blocked by them all at the same time. For no apprent reason. Not everyone here is playing with a full deck. And lots of jokers stack the deck....




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