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luckydog1 -> I can't believe how badly Bush has Fu^&*ed regarding N Korea (11/12/2007 5:27:24 PM)

US led teams are actually on the ground in N Korea, physically dismantling the Nuclear facilities, which will take at least one year to restart now.  
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/click/rss/1.0/-/2/hi/asia-pacific/7079620.stm 

N Korea is even publically thanking the USA and pledging to help us fight  terrorism.   http://en.rian.ru/world/20071109/87371260.html

It's far too soon to call it Glasnost, but N korea is taking steps towards opening up
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/08/AR2007110802191.html

After Bush has allowed Pakitan to get and test the A bomb(oops that was Clinton).  Bush successfully defused a very dangerous stand off involving tit for tat nuke explosions between Pakistan and India, broke up the AQ Kahn network, and has the only active Muslim Nuke stockpile under a pro US Gov.  Or Libya, Bush really fucked that up BigTime.  Oh wait, Bush got full complaince from Libya, and they have given us incredibly valuable help. 




Owner59 -> RE: I can't believe how badly Bush has Fu^&*ed regarding N Korea (11/12/2007 5:47:04 PM)

 Going back to the "Clinton Policy", has paid off well.




luckydog1 -> RE: I can't believe how badly Bush has Fu^&*ed regarding N Korea (11/12/2007 6:51:17 PM)

That Relativism on display again, why does the left cling to it so.  Goepolitical/Strategic relativism even.  Oh well it helps Republicans.  So you are pretending that having the IAEA putting cameras in is the same thing as the US led teams physically breaking the stuff, which will take a year to restart.  Awesome.  And you are ignoring the thawing relations between N Korea and the Entire World, as well as South Korea, where was any of that in the Clinton Policy of Appeasing the viscious little dictator? 

I think the Clinton Policy was clearly displayed in Pakistan.....




popeye1250 -> RE: I can't believe how badly Bush has Fu^&*ed regarding N Korea (11/12/2007 6:58:10 PM)

Does this mean we can bring the Troops home from S. Korea now?




SimplyMichael -> RE: I can't believe how badly Bush has Fu^&*ed regarding N Korea (11/12/2007 6:59:00 PM)

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB6/index.html

quote:


[image]http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB6/doc.gif[/image] 22. State Department Briefing Paper: “The Pakistani Nuclear Program,” June 23, 1983 (SECRET).
Source: Declassified in response to a Freedom of Information Act request
The State Department reports that there is “unambiguous evidence that Pakistan is actively pursuing a nuclear weapons development program.” It says that the U.S. has information indicating that Pakistan began to develop a nuclear explosive device “soon after the 1974 Indian nuclear test.” Pakistan has obtained technology for its research in Europe, using procurement agents and front organizations. The U.S. has also concluded that China is assisting Pakistan’s nuclear program: it believes that they have cooperated in the production of fissile material, and possibly also in “nuclear device design.” (During the 1980s, the U.S. was criticized for providing massive levels of aid to Pakistan, its military ally, despite laws barring assistance to any country that imported certain technology related to nuclear weapons. President Ronald Reagan waived the legislation, arguing that cutting off aid would harm U.S. national interests.)


Your arguments are brilliant but your facts aren't well, facts...

Edited to add" Relativism THIS about Raygun.  So a minute ago you were bitching that that fuckup Clinton was responsible for Pakistan's bomb, now that I had to tell you it not only happened under Raygun but Raygun at best turned a blind eye I bet you can hear a pin drop the silence will be deafening as "dear god we can't attack Raygun"!




luckydog1 -> RE: I can't believe how badly Bush has Fu^&*ed regarding N Korea (11/12/2007 7:09:31 PM)

Pakistan did not build and detonate a nuclear device under Reagan simply m. 

How do you even compare the 2. 




SimplyMichael -> RE: I can't believe how badly Bush has Fu^&*ed regarding N Korea (11/12/2007 7:15:13 PM)

Because unlike you my grasp of history is deeper than the cereal box you got yours from.

The fucking bombs were built LONG before they were detonated.

Or are you so naive as to think Israel doesn't have one because they haven't detonated one yet?

You are the right wing equivalent of fargle, shrill, shallow, and ignorant.




subrob1967 -> RE: I can't believe how badly Bush has Fu^&*ed regarding N Korea (11/12/2007 7:21:01 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

Because unlike you my grasp of history is deeper than the cereal box you got yours from.

The fucking bombs were built LONG before they were detonated.

  Yeah, in fact according to the article Pakistan started
quote:

soon after the 1974 Indian nuclear test
  Which I believe was about 6 years BEFORE Reagan's administration.




dcnovice -> RE: I can't believe how badly Bush has Fu^&*ed regarding N Korea (11/12/2007 7:22:35 PM)

Why do these watersports threads keep winding up in Random Stupidity? It makes it hard to find the games.




TheHeretic -> RE: I can't believe how badly Bush has Fu^&*ed regarding N Korea (11/12/2007 8:06:31 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Does this mean we can bring the Troops home from S. Korea now?



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listen or download here
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In a bar in Itaewon
Down from Old Yongsan
On a barstool she flashed me her thang
Well i thought i'd get closer
So i stumbled over
sit down and asked her its name
(pookie)
When the drink overtook her
she said i'm a hooker
but you can just call me Miss Lee
so i gave her a 20
she gave me 14.07 back
this is what happened to me:
You picked a fine time to burn me Miss Lee
4 days to port call and a case of VD
but i had a good time
i lived through a short time
this time its herpes type 3
(type 3?)
Picked a fine time to burn me Miss Lee
As i sit in this bar room
gotta go to the bathroom
lord it hurts so bad when i pee
(aghhhhh!)
what she did to my wienie
i outta kick her kundingie
if i could just find that Miss Lee
then the post Sgt. Major
He made me a wager
that i couldnt that i couldnt catch his Miss Kim
So i'm going out tonight
If my wallets just right
then i'll give my herpes to him!
You picked a fine time to burn me miss Lee
4 days to port call and a case of vd
but i had a good time
i lived through the short time
this time its herpes type 3
(thats 1 and 2 together)
Picked a fine time to burn me miss Lee
Picked a fine time to burn me miss Lee
You picked a fine time to burn me miss Lee
or che or cho or chong or kong or wong or ?




pahunkboy -> RE: I can't believe how badly Bush has Fu^&*ed regarding N Korea (11/13/2007 4:57:14 AM)

Stop the world I want to get off.




solitudesmiles -> RE: I can't believe how badly Bush has Fu^&*ed regarding N Korea (11/13/2007 5:03:04 AM)

lol me 2




pahunkboy -> RE: I can't believe how badly Bush has Fu^&*ed regarding N Korea (11/13/2007 5:06:00 AM)

The 2nd coming of Christ could come within the hour. I still would not change that I voted against bush!   Naturally I want what is good for folks.   But he is so in bed with the corporatists.




Yedi -> RE: I can't believe how badly Bush has Fu^&*ed regarding N Korea (11/13/2007 8:33:43 AM)

y will admit that Old Ronald Wilson Reagan may have made some errors at times ... but to blame him is still silly Even that paper said off the Cuff that Gerald Ford was the one responsible for the original blind eye which of cource The Peanut man Carter continued but hell if were going to lay blame 9lets go back... How about the original Manhaten Project there you go




luckydog1 -> RE: I can't believe how badly Bush has Fu^&*ed regarding N Korea (11/13/2007 9:46:10 AM)

Pakistan did not get the centrifuges untill 1992, and had no bombs before then simply micheal,  despite the insults you throw.  Feel free to give any source for your information that they got them in the early 80s.  Also you are ignoring the fact that Pakistan has changed governemnt via Coup and Revolution a few times over the past 40 years.




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