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scottjk -> Completely baffled on this one... (11/13/2007 3:40:40 AM)
Maybe I'm reading this too literally, maybe I don't have enough information to come to a rational conclusion, but I've actually come across a sub's profile that basically states, and I'm paraphrasing here, "Use me, abuse me, make me your toy, make me cum for your pleasure, but no sex." And following up after that is, basically an instruction that once she crawls in your bed and spoons with you, you'll molest her, get her off and then kick her out. Erm... is this the definition of a cuckhold Dom????? I'm not much for discussing labels, honestly, Top, Dom, Sadist, Master, sub, slave, masochist, it's all the same to me, really. I'm just thinking, "Wow!" I know she's getting piles of emails of deluded Doms thinking that they can change her mind, and I know there are plenty of Doms out there willing to take a swing at her for the sake of the sadism or thier nature of being givers, but even that has it's limits in my mind. :) Yes, I'm baffled. Perhaps a bit limited in capacity, but everyone has thier flaws. (chuckle) Anyone care to take a swing at this curiosity?

MRandme -> RE: Completely baffled on this one... (11/13/2007 3:54:35 AM)
A cuckhold is a man whose wife has other lovers and he knows or allows it. i believe in reference to kink it would mean he watches them and/or helps them. As for this girl's desires, i'm sure there are those who will take her up on it. g

Rover -> RE: Completely baffled on this one... (11/13/2007 4:01:16 AM)
Sounds to me as though she wants to live out a very specific fantasy role play. Which has nothing whatsoever to do with being a submissive. John

TNstepsout -> RE: Completely baffled on this one... (11/13/2007 4:48:48 AM)
Well that's pretty funny. I'd say she's the one who's a little confused.

Celeste43 -> RE: Completely baffled on this one... (11/13/2007 4:55:13 AM)
Is she looking for a relationship or just play partners? Because some people do play without sex.

SteelofUtah -> RE: Completely baffled on this one... (11/13/2007 6:00:52 AM)
Not knowing the profile I can't see for myself only take from what you said. The only thing I can say for certain is that everytime I think I have the flowchart down someone goes and finds a New Error or a New Connective Link. Again ONLY going by what you have said it would seem she has a VERY detailed limit when it comes to sex. Is this strange for a Sexually driven Male or a Sexually driven female to understand, I would assume so. Now ask those in the S&M community (again not everyone is thge same but here is the best place to find a similar situation) how many bottoms are able to get a BETTER sexual release from thier play then they get from intercourse, I assume you would get varied responses, but I am sure you would find some people who get sexual gratification on a St. Andrews Cross that they could never get from a Cock, or a Pussy. That said, I am curious as to if you were willing to ask her her reason for not wanting to engage in sexual coitus and perhaps get a better perspective on the girl, because in all honesty there is a person out there with an exact direct answer and that is the girl in the Profile in question. I think the Pesudo-Lable of Cuckold or Cuckolded Dom is not accurate as has already been pointed out, I believe a better Pesudo-Lable would be Non-Sexually Stimulated, Erectile Defiant, Testosterone Controled, Labidoless Dom. I sadly to say could not apply, The blue balls would cause a Postal type accident in a matter of days. Just my two cents in a sea of pocket change. As Always Steel

bipolarber -> RE: Completely baffled on this one... (11/13/2007 6:22:51 AM)
Actually, the play she is suggesting is not all that uncommon. It's a variation of the "I want to be used, and then tossed aside" school of submission. Not unlike guys who want their Dommes to use them as sex toys, without any of the uncomfortable post-coitus pillow talk, or snuggling. Just come in, use me, and leave. People who find satisfaction in this kind of play are usually erotisizing the objectification angle: they look at themselves as more of a masturbatory toy than a complete human lover. So it has a few connections to humiliation play as well. Not my kind of thing, at least not a steady diet of it, anyway. But I can see the attraction of it to some people.

miladyh -> RE: Completely baffled on this one... (11/13/2007 6:29:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: scottjk I'm just thinking, "Wow!" I know she's getting piles of emails of deluded Doms thinking that they can change her mind, and I know there are plenty of Doms out there willing to take a swing at her for the sake of the sadism or thier nature of being givers, but even that has it's limits in my mind. :) Yes, I'm baffled. Perhaps a bit limited in capacity, but everyone has thier flaws. (chuckle) Anyone care to take a swing at this curiosity? Have you tried simply sending an email explaining that you are curious about what it is she seeks as her profile has you a bit baffled?

Dnomyar -> RE: Completely baffled on this one... (11/13/2007 6:35:40 AM)
I have met a couple of women like that from CM. Like bipolarber said. They want to be just used and move on.

chellekitty -> RE: Completely baffled on this one... (11/13/2007 6:56:35 AM)
FR do you have any idea how evil it is for a Dom to do that to a girl? get her off over and over and over and then kick her out without getting off himself because she hasn't earned that....its pure evil.....omg....gets frustrated all over again just thinking about it...sadistic bastard....

LATEXBABY64 -> RE: Completely baffled on this one... (11/13/2007 7:22:45 AM)
OH NO you said the WORD LABELS beware the fashion Nazis and drive by posters will gobble you up ROFL

MisPandora -> RE: Completely baffled on this one... (11/13/2007 12:53:38 PM)
Quick answer: DO-ME BOTTOM.

scottjk -> RE: Completely baffled on this one... (11/13/2007 1:21:32 PM)
(chuckle) What you see is what I got out of her profile. And no, I didn't mystype it, she's the one that gets the orgasm, not the Dom, so I don't see how she get's used, other than to cop a feel. I did write, and I was very polite and showed genuine interest, (since I am interested) but I honestly don't expect any kind of answer at all. :) I confess, I'm a skeptic. chellekitty? My idea of evil is to get you off over and over and over for a few hours, toss you away and use another girl in front of you while making you watch. ;) I see NO reason for self deprivation if I don't have to in this respect. Muahahahaha!

pinksugarsub -> RE: Completely baffled on this one... (11/13/2007 2:42:45 PM)
Laffs; reminds me of the famous Dear Abby column in which some 75% of women said they'd rather be cuddled than made love to. Maybe she's vanilla, lmao. pinksugarsub

scottjk -> RE: Completely baffled on this one... (11/13/2007 3:00:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pinksugarsub Laffs; reminds me of the famous Dear Abby column in which some 75% of women said they'd rather be cuddled than made love to. Maybe she's vanilla, lmao. pinksugarsub I'm having a bit of a sidebar about it. It's possible her limits don't include oral service, but because I often see women declaring oral IS sex, and men declaring oral ISN'T sex, (My vote is the relationship itself is sex, so neener!) I'll have to assume oral is probably out. :) Who knows? It just seems a bit one sided. If I were to step up, I'd almost consider establishing a rate structure for such 'services'.

MzMia -> RE: Completely baffled on this one... (11/13/2007 3:10:03 PM)
I see many profiles in which male submissives TELL Dominants that they will not have sex. I also see profiles in which the male submissives, TELL Dominants that they will not be their boyfriends, and they do not want the Dominant to fall in love, etc. Amusing at best, when the submissive tells the Dominant what the nature of the relationship will be!!

MrrPete -> RE: Completely baffled on this one... (11/13/2007 3:15:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: chellekitty FR do you have any idea how evil it is for a Dom to do that to a girl? get her off over and over and over and then kick her out without getting off himself because she hasn't earned that....its pure evil.....omg....gets frustrated all over again just thinking about it...sadistic bastard.... My idea of sadsim is making a woman cum over and over until she says enough . . . THEN Mount her. her screams are delicious.

Manawyddan -> RE: Completely baffled on this one... (11/17/2007 6:39:23 AM)
I very rarely bother to cum when I play, saving that for people with whom I am emotionally intimate. As a casual partner, I would likely be very compatible with the woman (except for the 'leave' part, I'd rather hang out and drink wine and talk about books, or something).

diaperboy99 -> RE: Completely baffled on this one... (11/17/2007 6:48:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MzMia I see many profiles in which male submissives TELL Dominants that they will not have sex. I also see profiles in which the male submissives, TELL Dominants that they will not be their boyfriends, and they do not want the Dominant to fall in love, etc. Amusing at best, when the submissive tells the Dominant what the nature of the relationship will be!! Not really.... if a sub or slave is seeking a Dom(me) or Master/Mistress for a LTR then it is best that both parties know what the other wants up front. If the Dom does not want a sub or slave that has the wants or needs of the sub or slave they are talking to, then they simply do not take them on, same goes for a sub or slave agreeing to be own by a Master or Mistress who has different interests from their own.

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