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bipolarber -> RE: Fucking and domination... (11/13/2007 3:22:59 PM)

Penetration can either increase a person's dominance, or leave it just the way it is. I don't see where taking pleasure from someone else, whom you control, is an act that would somehow decrease their dominance over their sub.

Now, from the sub's point of view (at least from THIS sub's point of view) it's something that very definitely increases the Domme's power. Being taken with a strap on seems to help refine the roles... "I am the one who takes it in, she is the one who takes me as she pleases." Even if it's relatively vanilla fucking, she's still the one who has control.

It's not the fucking itself that defines us as Domme/sub... but rather it's who gets to say when, with whom, for how long, and what you have to do to earn it.



DollysSissyGirl -> RE: Fucking and domination... (11/13/2007 3:34:52 PM)

• The one giving PERMISSION has the upper hand.
• The one giving permission has the final say.
• The one giving permission holds the power.

Penetration is the act resulting from the permission granted.

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ORIGINAL: bipolarber

Penetration can either increase a person's dominance, or leave it just the way it is. I don't see where taking pleasure from someone else, whom you control, is an act that would somehow decrease their dominance over their sub.

Now, from the sub's point of view (at least from THIS sub's point of view) it's something that very definitely increases the Domme's power. Being taken with a strap on seems to help refine the roles... "I am the one who takes it in, she is the one who takes me as she pleases." Even if it's relatively vanilla fucking, she's still the one who has control.

It's not the fucking itself that defines us as Domme/sub... but rather it's who gets to say when, with whom, for how long, and what you have to do to earn it.
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BBWnNC72 -> RE: Fucking and domination... (11/13/2007 3:44:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rubberpet

If Mistress wants to ride me like a bucking bronco, then that is Her choice.  Hell, She has needs, wants, and desires and if She chooses to allow me to satisfy those needs, wants, and desires, then She is still in charge.  Even though I may penetrate Her, I understand and cherish the fact that She is the one who ultimately controls my orgasm.  I may be inside Her, but I look at is as my cock is Her prisoner and She is using it as She pleases.  On one side, we make soft, passionate love.  On the other, we fuck like a couple of wild, animalistic, lust-driven beasts that look like they've been in a streetfight afterwards!

If She decides to take me with Her strap-on, I don't look at it as more dominant.  I look at it as just another way She wants me to bring Her pleasure.  I get my pleasure from pleasuring Her and giving Her multiple, blood-curdling, screaming orgasms to the point She can't walk straight for a while! [:D]




you are a great submissive. love reading your replies to posts.



Kaiynasha -> RE: Fucking and domination... (11/13/2007 3:59:14 PM)

Hell to the no. A cock is a damn cock. Whether it is a submissive cock or a toy cock- I am still Supreme. Even Queen Elizabeth had cock, and at the end of the day, they bowed & submitted before her.

Why must I suddenly be a damn virgin?








LadyPact -> RE: Fucking and domination... (11/13/2007 5:55:10 PM)

I would have to say it doesn't diminish anything.  Considering I am the one in control of who makes the decisions on whether or not someone is allowed to please Me (within limits).  I'm not a monk or a nun.  I'm a Domme who happens to be human and get the same sexual urges as any other female.  I've had both ends of the spectum.  No sexual contact and other situations where the sexual contact was fantastic.  It didn't change anything in the BDSM context.
 
As for the strap-on play, I'd have to say the same thing.  I was still in control if I did it.  I was still in control if I didn't do it.  There wasn't a deciding factor of whether or not it made Me more "Dommely" or not.
 
Sex of any kind isn't the determining factor of a Dominant.  It is, in fact, the Dominant Herself.



AllforFun -> RE: Fucking and domination... (11/13/2007 9:25:44 PM)

HAHA! I think someONE is trying to stir the pot, eh?  I guess it could be genuine curosity, though my expierence with Doms tends to make me doubt it.

I guess to answer your question you would have to answer one of mine. (sorry)

Do you consider the act of penetration an act of dominance? If so, are their instances when you find vanilla sex just as satifying to your Dominant desires as kink? Most would say this alone would not satisfy their dominant nature, why?

Because, as others have pointed, dominance is not decided by sex alone. (though sexual gratification is deeply rooted in Dominance and generates sexual arousal, yada yada yada :) )

When you boil it all down, Dominance is simply control.



Ecossaise -> RE: Fucking and domination... (11/13/2007 10:57:05 PM)

If my sub penetrates me it is because I allow her that privilege. It doesn't change who I am.

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LadyHugs -> RE: Fucking and domination... (11/13/2007 11:15:05 PM)

Dear Master96, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
I believe each Dominant woman wouldd have to answer for their own perceptions on how they feel about sexual intercourse, its positioning during intercourse and or being in the position of applying the 'thrust' during intercourse.
 
For me, I am a Dominant lady.  I am not defined by sexual gender and or sexual intercourse.  Of course at my age, sexual intercourse is the last thing on my mind--I prefer thinking about how to tie a man's genitals into a bow-tie or how many axes, knives and sharps off of their c and b's.
 
Just some thoughts.
 
Respectfully submitted with a bit of wit,
Lady Hugs



MsCfromMelbourne -> RE: Fucking and domination... (11/14/2007 1:25:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Master96


Does using a strap-on with your sub necessarily makes you more dominant?




I had a sub that was really into anal penetration and desparate to "be taken".  He bought me a really expensive strap on and eventually I tested it out

Curiously, I didn't feel dominant at all.  He was a gigantic ex-professional footballer and I really felt like a poodle trying to fuck an Alsatian. 

And a rubber dick has no nerve endings (duh).  So no sensation for me, just pushing  in-out-in-out.....it was all a bit boring after the first 3 minutes. 

It just isn't my kink, sadly.  I guess I couldn't have all of them!!





Master96 -> RE: Fucking and domination... (11/14/2007 2:20:12 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I'm a Domme who happens to be human and get the same sexual urges as any other female.


I'm glad to read this :)


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ORIGINAL: AllforFun

Do you consider the act of penetration an act of dominance? If so, are their instances when you find vanilla sex just as satifying to your Dominant desires as kink? Most would say this alone would not satisfy their dominant nature, why?

Because, as others have pointed, dominance is not decided by sex alone. (though sexual gratification is deeply rooted in Dominance and generates sexual arousal, yada yada yada :) )


Well, I'm human too [sm=wave.gif]. I enjoy vanilla sex. As BDSM isn't about sex only, and sex isn't always kinky for me. Other times I enjoy penetration as an act of domination without other kinks.

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ORIGINAL: AllforFun

When you boil it all down, Dominance is simply control.


And I totally agree :)



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