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My, how you have grown!? - 11/17/2007 11:09:51 AM   
ShaktiWithLingam


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As a slave or submissive, has your definition of what a slave or sub is changed from when you first started out in D/s, O/s or BDSM? How have you changed/grown in comparison to when you first started your slave or sub path?

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RE: My, how you have grown!? - 11/17/2007 11:13:16 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ShaktiWithLingam

As a slave or submissive, has your definition of what a slave or sub is changed from when you first started out in D/s, O/s or BDSM? How have you changed/grown in comparison to when you first started your slave or sub path?

Has my definiton changed? Nope.
Has it evolved? Absolutly

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RE: My, how you have grown!? - 11/17/2007 11:42:31 AM   
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I still do not understand what the difference is, so no, my view of sub/slave has not really changed other than I am more certain than ever that it is really an individual perception...

My own submission has changed quite a bit, been back and forth with it, and determined that I am only submissive in relation to an individual. I am not submissive in any other way.

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RE: My, how you have grown!? - 11/17/2007 12:00:34 PM   
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It's hard to say, how can I separate growth due to simply going through life active and aware of myself versus specific Ds growth? 

When I lived in Ireland for 6 months and came back, people asked "How was it?" as if I could encompass 6 months of a thoroughly life changing experience into an answer to that question. 

Your question is very valid and worth asking, I simply do not think I can answer it appropriately.

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RE: My, how you have grown!? - 11/17/2007 1:15:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ShaktiWithLingam

As a slave or submissive, has your definition of what a slave or sub is changed from when you first started out in D/s, O/s or BDSM? How have you changed/grown in comparison to when you first started your slave or sub path?


Yes. I used to think there was a difference between a slave and sub.

Who knows what I'll think in five years?

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RE: My, how you have grown!? - 11/17/2007 1:43:22 PM   
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Has my definition of my role changed? Sort of yes
Have i evolved into a better sub from when i started? Absolutely with no regrets

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RE: My, how you have grown!? - 11/17/2007 1:44:37 PM   
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I had never considered that part of it would be scouring the house for clothes he takes off and tosses into every corner of the house. He gets hot, he takes off a long sleeve shirt and/or socks and leaves them someplace. Then an hour later when cold he has no idea where they are so he gets new ones, this can wind up using three pairs of socks in a day! No wonder I always am doing laundry.

But basically I was envisioning more fun stuff and less proof reading letters, washing dishes etc.

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RE: My, how you have grown!? - 11/17/2007 1:57:24 PM   
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As my relationship with Master grows and evolves, my concepts of our relationship also grows and evolves.M/s  for us is more defined as things come up. When I first came to Master, I had no disabilities and could function as doing all of the driving, doing long trips and extended play sessions.Now that I have visual issues, I cant drive anymore and I have vertigo of some sort on a constant basis and I have lost all peripheral vison. So we have adjusted accordingly..No biggy I can still think, function, cook, play ect just not to the point where I used to be able to. However the basic foundation of Honesty, Strength, Honor and Integrity are still there...that never changes.

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RE: My, how you have grown!? - 11/17/2007 2:02:55 PM   
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Yes, the loose definitions that I had once included words that described feelings.  The more I learned and thought about it the more flimsy those definitions became.  Now my definitions are about authority and doing someone else's will.  The feelings about that are irrelevant to the concept of submitting for me.  The feelings provide the motivation to submit, but they do not describe what submission is. 

I have spent the majority of my life trying to be a better me.  That did not stop when I became his slave and started a poly relationship.  Now, I have two people to grow with me.

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RE: My, how you have grown!? - 11/17/2007 2:54:31 PM   
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My understanding and perception of what I am and what submission and slavery (though I don't identify as a slave myself) and dominance mean to me have changed and grown dramatically and constantly and I certainly still don't have everything figured out.  Part of the beauty of people is that I never will, because it is so individual, and individuals constantly change and grow!  It isn't about the labels, it is about understanding yourself and connecting with pepople, the lables will never keep up with or encompass that.

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< Message edited by Tigrita -- 11/17/2007 3:05:20 PM >


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