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WOW! More specific questions about branding.... - 11/17/2007 7:35:04 PM   
TexasMaam


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I'd like to thank all of those who posted their responses to My previous Branding thread.  I was surprised, and touched, by the many sincere contributions to the board!  Thanks to each of you!

I'll answer a few questions that came up and then I have some more questions for you.

My submale and I have found a jewelry design that we like very much, it's a Celtic protection knot, a stylized triquetra, within a circle, and manthing wants to be branded with some modified version of that symbol - he has not asked for My initials or any other personal identifiers.  I believe he also would like to come up with a branding system that would be in demand for BDSM use.

We've been talking about several ways to brand, and My own experience is with a brass brand immersed in liquid nitrogen then applied to the skin - a freeze brand.  It was many years ago and it was a very simple, open design that did not lend itself to blotching. 

The brand manthing wants would be very blotchy, because of the triagular corners within the knot, it would just turn out blobs on the corners of the triquetra and probably anywhere the lines overlapped.  So freeze branding with that symbol is out of the question.  We're back to square one, sketching out some other modified designs that appeal to both of us.

The idea of the cauterizing pen is a great one, it would give us a chance to see how a given design would work out.  I'll be working on a few designs and I'll let you know how that progresses.

Thanks again for the very insightful responses as to motive, effect, and emotional impact....  I am so grateful that all of you took the time to write.  I see that I have some very pointed in depth conversations ahead with manthing.  Your responses have given Me some important starting points from which to launch some very meaningful dialogue.  Thanks to all!

Now, for brand questions:

What size is your brand?  Height X width or diameter, etc?  1inch? 1 1/4 inches? 3 inches? 

Did it blotch?  (Blotching is where the lines are not well defined due to scarring over elements of the lines or designs.) 

How many points were there to your brand?  (For example, the letter 'M' has three points with two open lines.  The letter "C" has no points, only an open circle.  The letter "T" has two points, one on either side where the lines intersect.  The letter 'N" has two points, one at the top and one at the bottom of the 'N'...)

What other characteristics of the branded design itself do you feel were important to your satisfaction with the finished look?

How do you explain this brand to anyone other than your 'One' if and when they see it?  Family, physicians, friends?

Have you ever regretted getting branded?

Have you ever regretted getting tattooed?

Have you ever had a brand removed?  (Dermabrasion can remove some light brands, heavier scarred brands I don't know...)

Where is your brand? Arm, Hand, Thigh, Buttocks?

Thanks in advance, I'll answer any curious questions but I rarely login during the week, you'll have to check back for my replies!

All the best,

TexasMaam





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RE: WOW! More specific questions about branding.... - 11/17/2007 9:52:28 PM   
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I have two brands and one combo brand/cutting.  The two brands are ironically enough..the letter M.  I have one on the back of my neck.  That one is a perfectly form letter it is about half inch wide.  The other is on my left upper arm and it did keloid badly..upper arm tissue on me tends to do that and may on most people.  You can see the M shape on the arm but it looks bad.   The combo is a yin/yang and it is on my left buttock.  That is about three inches.  It has faded more than the other marks did but a bit of slapping makes it show. :)  

I have had no regrets for getting the brands.  They are simply roadmarks of where I have been.

Anyone who sees the bad one I tell straight out it was a brand that went bad..got infected and keloided. 

I do not want them removed or altered and is a negotiation point I stand my ground on when I talk to potential new Dominants.  My last Lady respected my wishes when we entered into our power exchange since the marks were all from a previous Lady before her.

I do hope you know it is not reccomended that you ever do any cutting or brand in one sitting where the skin is burned/cut to where any point of it is totally surrounded by that cut/brand.  This tends to make the inner patch of skin more prone to rotting away.  Any circular or closed in mark should be done in a series of sessions.   This is how I was taught and how my yin/yang was done.  I am sure there are much more knowledgeable people out there who can chime in on this issue.

My brands were done with a cauterizer pen. 

I wish you the best in your explorations in this area..for me it is one of the highlights of my life in this thing we do and was very spiritual for me as well.

Regards,
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RE: WOW! More specific questions about branding.... - 11/18/2007 12:48:11 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: TexasMaam
What size is your brand?  Height X width or diameter, etc?  1inch? 1 1/4 inches? 3 inches? 

I feel so MANLY getting out the ruler to measure myself! *chuckle*

My left brand in 5.5 inches long and 1/2 inch wide and consists of 39 dots. The right is 6.5 inches long and 1/2 inch wide and consists of 49 dots.

quote:

Did it blotch?  (Blotching is where the lines are not well defined due to scarring over elements of the lines or designs.) 

How many points were there to your brand?  (For example, the letter 'M' has three points with two open lines.  The letter "C" has no points, only an open circle.  The letter "T" has two points, one on either side where the lines intersect.  The letter 'N" has two points, one at the top and one at the bottom of the 'N'...)

None of these apply as mine is a series of dots (it's in braille).

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What other characteristics of the branded design itself do you feel were important to your satisfaction with the finished look?

It's important to me that the individual dots are distinct. Be prepared that a cauterizing pen will give an oval dot. I also want them to scar until they're raised, which, for me, means doing the branding several more times. They've been done twice so far...no raised dots yet, but at least they're white now. I don't keyloid well, which is good for the surgery scars, but not for branding or scarification.

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How do you explain this brand to anyone other than your 'One' if and when they see it?  Family, physicians, friends?

It's just a body mod like a tattoo. Did you see my tattoos???

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Have you ever regretted getting branded?

No. I love them.

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Have you ever regretted getting tattooed?

No. I love them, too.

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Have you ever had a brand removed?  (Dermabrasion can remove some light brands, heavier scarred brands I don't know...)

No.

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Where is your brand? Arm, Hand, Thigh, Buttocks?

Right forearm and left forearm. I can post the link again if you wish.


I can't remember if anyone mentioned that the lines or dots will "spread" as they heal. So, you don't want to do something truly intricate. If you have an intricate design, consider a cutting.

Master Fire

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RE: WOW! More specific questions about branding.... - 11/18/2007 1:10:38 AM   
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I have a suggestion and just so I don't get into problems with animal enthusiat try using a dead chicken as I have heard there skin is comporable to ours. Only problem with that is though that you will not see how it heals and there lies the problem with the animal activists. If this is an answer to how the brand will look try it  however you want to.

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RE: WOW! More specific questions about branding.... - 11/18/2007 9:23:22 AM   
TexasMaam


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Thank you, yes I did see your link.  I always enjoy your posts, and appreciate the info.  Love the new pic, by the way, but then, I thought the other one rocked, too!
TM

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RE: WOW! More specific questions about branding.... - 11/18/2007 9:53:45 AM   
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Mine is about 3" x 3", on my left breast, in the shape of the Zodiac symbol for Scorpio. It is done in all curves, i guess the only thing you'd call a point would be the arrow on the end? There are two areas that are "blotchy"- one where the tail of the symbol runs into my armpit, which was subject to more motion as it was healing, and one at the top where i believe it was burned slightly deeper. i did a lot of research on branding before having it done, and made sure that the design would lend itself well to being done as a brand. It was done by the same person who did MasterFireMaam's brand.

i haven't shown it to any physicians yet. Strangers have not commented on it to date; i never ask for clarification on whether they're staring at the brand or my nipple jewelry. My family is kind of weird... they saw it, asked what it was. i said "A mark" and left it at that. They didn't ask any more questions. My wife thought this was hilarious. But that's how we roll- don't ask, don't tell.

No regrets, no attempts to remove. Have only had it since April of this year, had been planning it for about 6 years on and off.

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RE: WOW! More specific questions about branding.... - 11/18/2007 10:24:53 AM   
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quote:

I have a suggestion and just so I don't get into problems with animal enthusiat try using a dead chicken as I have heard there skin is comporable to ours. Only problem with that is though that you will not see how it heals and there lies the problem with the animal activists. If this is an answer to how the brand will look try it  however you want to.


Our necks are comparable to chicken skin, rest of the body isn't. My tattoo artist was hesitate about putting my first tat on my neck, he says that it's alot harder to do on the neck cause of this reason. I'm no expert on this, that's just what he was telling me.
 

As for the original questions... I have no idea how big my tat is by measurement. It covers my shoulders, most the shoulder blades, comes around to the front of my chest and meets in the middle... (2 dragons with a lock) ... Soon the tails are going to wrap around my neck holding the key. Then the color needs to be added still.
 
Do I regret.. hell no.. Granted it came out lot bigger than I had planned... but regret... Never..
 
Wish to remove it? .. Hell no.. Not like I have the money to do that anyway..
 
How to explain it.. well My parents already know about it, know what it means. As for his parents and other people that don't accept tats and such way of life... for the moment.. just hiding from them lol.

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RE: WOW! More specific questions about branding.... - 11/18/2007 6:40:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: spiritd1

I have a suggestion and just so I don't get into problems with animal enthusiat try using a dead chicken as I have heard there skin is comporable to ours. Only problem with that is though that you will not see how it heals and there lies the problem with the animal activists. If this is an answer to how the brand will look try it  however you want to.


I don't think animal activists have a problem with what people do with corpses...it's how and why they become such that they protest. Don't kill a chicken just to test branding and you'll be fine.

Master Fire


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RE: WOW! More specific questions about branding.... - 11/18/2007 8:44:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TexasMaam
What size is your brand?  Height X width or diameter, etc?  1inch? 1 1/4 inches? 3 inches?


I have no sense of space, but I think its a couple of inches tall and two and a half to three inches long.

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Did it blotch?  (Blotching is where the lines are not well defined due to scarring over elements of the lines or designs.)


No, but it did spread quite a bit and we did plan for spreading, so that wasn't a big deal.  The design (the letter M, his last initial) is still completely clear.

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How many points were there to your brand?  (For example, the letter 'M' has three points with two open lines.  The letter "C" has no points, only an open circle.  The letter "T" has two points, one on either side where the lines intersect.  The letter 'N" has two points, one at the top and one at the bottom of the 'N'...)


Three points.

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What other characteristics of the branded design itself do you feel were important to your satisfaction with the finished look?


I tend to avoid talking specifics about the brand, but basically it was partially the way he did the brand as well as the way I took care of it after the fact I think helped make sure that the design was clear, intact, and enduring.

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How do you explain this brand to anyone other than your 'One' if and when they see it?  Family, physicians, friends?


I explained it to my mother as a body mod.  Other than that I didn't feel the need, nor has there really been an instance where I've had to explain it.

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Have you ever regretted getting branded?


Nope.

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Where is your brand? Arm, Hand, Thigh, Buttocks?


On my right buttock towards my hip.

C~

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