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Scattering the ashes - 11/18/2007 11:33:57 AM   
TheHeretic


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Status: offline 		       Seems they had a little security scare at Disneyland here recently.  Someone was spotted dumping a mysterious powder on the Pirates of the Carribean ride.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-disney14nov14,0,5347524.story?coll=la-home-center

       I think it is kind of a cool way to memorialize someone.  An old girlfriend took me to a very remote piece of beach once, that was not only one of the most beautiful places I've ever been, but also, for her and her family, a shrine of sorts to her mother.

       Or does it strike you as creepy and weird?

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RE: Scattering the ashes - 11/18/2007 12:28:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		It strikes me as creepy and weird.  Having Y/your ashes scattered on a ride at Disney is sorta demeaning.
 
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RE: Scattering the ashes - 11/18/2007 12:41:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		How is it demeaning? I thought it was neat . I love amusement parks and the idea of floating my ashes from the top of a ride makes me smile.I've requested to be dumped over a particular waterfall in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.IMO keeping Aunt Idas ashes in a jar on the fireplace mantle is creeeeeeeeepy!

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RE: Scattering the ashes - 11/18/2007 12:43:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think scattering ashes according to a deceased directives is a great idea, as long as it doesn't occur on private property without the owner's permission. 

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RE: Scattering the ashes - 11/18/2007 12:51:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't see it as creepy.

However... "It is important to get permission from the owners of private land or the Trust of Parks and reserves, or from local council for parks, beaches and playing fields as scattering of ashes may contravene the provisions of the Clean Air Act, or they may constitute water pollution. Councils and other Government Authorities will set time and place when these activities can be undertaken and can impose other conditions. Disposal of ashes without consent from appropriate authorities may result in legal proceedings to be initiated against the person disposing the ashes."

- http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/public-health/ehb/general/funeral/pdf/factsheet_ashes.pdf

Since Disneyland is very much privately owned land, the person doing the scattering should have requested permission.

At any rate, if Disneyland filters the water - and I'm guessing they really ought to, given what kids are prone to toss into it - the deceased is going to end up partially, if not wholly, removed from the water at some point anyway.


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RE: Scattering the ashes - 11/18/2007 12:57:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		I went on an airplane ride once and helped scatter the ashes of a friends' mother over these mountains:

http://www.chrisxx.com/pages/FreeWallpapers2/Stanley%20Lake.jpg

Our Cessna pilot had experience scattering ashes that way, she had us put remains in a paper bag, tie a rope around the neck of the sack, string it out a back vent type window that only opened at the back of it about two to three inches (exactly like the back windows on old VW Bugs open). Then she had us give the rope a couple of sudden jerks at the right moment, the bottom fell out of the sack, and there she went.



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RE: Scattering the ashes - 11/18/2007 1:04:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		When scattering ashes you should make sure the wind is moving in the right direction so that it don’t blow back in your face. Beyond that I have no advice.

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RE: Scattering the ashes - 11/18/2007 1:15:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subfever

I think scattering ashes according to a deceased directives is a great idea, as long as it doesn't occur on private property without the owner's permission. 


Ditto.

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RE: Scattering the ashes - 11/18/2007 1:17:12 PM   
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RE: Scattering the ashes - 11/18/2007 2:43:39 PM   
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Well I think scattering one’s ashes is GREAT!!
And where a person wants them scattered is only limited to their own unique mind.

I read recently that the guy who invented Frisbees died recently .. and that a son had said that the ashes of his father will be incorporated in commemorative frisbees, which will then be distributed to the family and friends.
( now THAT I found a wee bit on the weird side … lol )

But really … the first thing that comes to my mind if Y/you truly want Y/your ashes scattered somewhere … You’d better have the details worked out, and then put in to an “Attorney” drawn will.
Just telling your friends or family what you want done with your remains upon passing, seldom gets your last wishes carried out.

On the other hand … is it really important what becomes of your remains once you journey on??

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RE: Scattering the ashes - 11/18/2007 8:16:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MadameDahlia 

At any rate, if Disneyland filters the water - and I'm guessing they really ought to, given what kids are prone to toss into it - the deceased is going to end up partially, if not wholly, removed from the water at some point anyway.




         But for those who are left behind, the memories will remain.  Until the ride is torn out to make way for something new, there will be a special significance for them there. 

        My own instructions are along these lines.  I intend for the ashes to be distributed among those closest to me, in as many Ziplock bags or Altoids tins as it takes, and the decision of where to scatter will be theirs, with only the vaguest of guidelines.

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RE: Scattering the ashes - 11/18/2007 8:25:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: osocurious
On the other hand … is it really important what becomes of your remains once you journey on??

respectfully
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All I can come up with is, if you're cremated there's little chance you'll ever be cloned or otherwise have your DNA saved, studied or whatever. Who knows what could potentially be done in the future...

Also, on the off chance that you're murdered most any evidence that your body may harbor would be destroyed on cremation. No chance for a later autopsy if it's needed at a later date.

Really, to me, the method of funeral and the disposal of my remains will be for the living, for my loved ones who I leave behind. It probably won't matter to me.

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RE: Scattering the ashes - 11/18/2007 8:31:02 PM   
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RE: Scattering the ashes - 11/18/2007 8:51:51 PM   
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They can take me to the trash can and put me in landfill for all I care

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RE: Scattering the ashes - 11/18/2007 9:02:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Arpig

quote:

They can take me to the trash can and put me in landfill for all I care

Ditto



       Is that how you would be thought of?  I agree that these bodies are merely vessels, of no use whatsoever after the lights go out, but funeral rites are for those you leave behind.  They might be the oldest rituals our species has, suitable for debate on the 'essence of humanity' thread.

       Would you really wish to leave in such low regard that you go out with the coffee grounds and used kleenex?

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RE: Scattering the ashes - 11/18/2007 10:49:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		We stood on a cliff in the Marin Headlands and watched as a private plane (pilot was on cell phone with me) dropped my Dad's ashes over the Pacific, just outside the Golden Gate.  It was truly beautiful.  I was concerned because it was really cloudy that day and the pilot didn't think he'd be able to make it below the cloud level.  But as soon as he passed overhead, the clouds parted, the sun came out, and we watched the ashen remains of my Dad float through the air and to the water below.  It was the most profound moment of my life. 

A month later I was walking down the beach and as the water came up over my feet, I felt a connection to him.  For my family, it was a beautiful tribute to a San Francisco Naval Lieutenant, and a perfect place to wave him goodbye.

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RE: Scattering the ashes - 11/19/2007 12:38:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Give your body to science then you won't have to worry about remains, and you will be doing a service to humanity - very sub like 

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RE: Scattering the ashes - 11/19/2007 12:44:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		Or you could let someone snort your ashes, like the guys who were burging a house and found a bag of powder. It was the remains of the womans dog and she hadn't bought an urn yet.

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RE: Scattering the ashes - 11/19/2007 1:02:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		i personally have emphatically told my UM not to spend money on disposing of my carcass; refuse to claim the body and let them bury me in potter's field.  A memorial service or obit might be nice, but they don't require the presence of a corpse in any form.
 
On the other hand, it's really my UM's decision, since she'll be the one grieving.  Anything that soothes her is fine by me.
 
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RE: Scattering the ashes - 11/19/2007 1:37:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		There was also a famous musician who snorted his dad's ashes on purpose.
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ORIGINAL: MissMagnolia

Or you could let someone snort your ashes,

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