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Baroque -> Robots Lead Society (11/21/2007 1:02:21 PM)
It's true! Micro robots adapt then influence cockroach society. http://www.inform.com/Free+University+of+Brussels,Jose+Halloy Imagine. What could be the implications? Can robots 'learn' to think? COOL!

CuriousLord -> RE: Robots Lead Society (11/21/2007 1:24:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Baroque What could be the implications? Can robots 'learn' to think? Yeah. They can. The distinction between a human's mind and a robot's is, from a philosophical stand point, arbitrary. There's no such things as souls, so learning isn't some divine characteristic of humans. I believe there's a considerable possibility (60% or better) that, within fifty years, there will be electronic intelligences more self-aware and brilliant than there has even been a human equivalent to. PS- I read one of the articles. It appears that these robots don't truly "think" in the way that one might consider as actual intelligence, but merely simulate it.

luckydog1 -> RE: Robots Lead Society (11/21/2007 1:56:37 PM)
Call me a "luddite", but I am not sure that thinking robots is cool.

CuriousLord -> RE: Robots Lead Society (11/21/2007 2:05:17 PM)
It's not an unreasonable position. Robots are likely to kill off humanity in the not-too-distant future.

EPGAH -> RE: Robots Lead Society (11/21/2007 3:21:18 PM)
Well, many of the methods that make the most sense--if you're only interested in sense and results--are the most "brutal", "cold", "unemotional", and "soulless" methods...Napalm, land-mines, nuclear weapons... Someone else even (re)stated that humans are always seeking to find/create newer, faster, better, more efficient ways to kill themselves off...Machines are meant to help humans, so they might "help" us with that too! Or they may hurt people "accidentally" in their pursuit of a preprogrammed goal (Machine intellect has a singlemindedness that goes WAY past any human "psychosis"!) Then again, isn't it the nature of humans to create monsters...and the nature of monsters to turn against their creators? From Inca mythology about their pots and tools turning against them, to movies like "I, Robot"?[;)]

Rule -> RE: Robots Lead Society (11/21/2007 3:57:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CuriousLord The distinction between a human's mind and a robot's is, from a philosophical stand point, arbitrary. Them philosophers ain't that bright. quote: ORIGINAL: CuriousLord There's no such things as souls, Really? Have you ever looked up its definition in an authoritative dictionary? If not, how do you know what a soul is that you deny its existence? quote: ORIGINAL: CuriousLord so learning isn't some divine characteristic of humans. Indeed. Bacteria are also capable of learning and they do not even have nerve cells, imagine that. And as everybody knows that bacteria have no divine characteristics... (Except life and the ability to make yoghurt and cause diseases - but let's ignore that, eh?) quote: ORIGINAL: CuriousLord I believe there's a considerable possibility (60% or better) that, within fifty years, there will be electronic intelligences more self-aware and brilliant than there has even been a human equivalent to. Perchance... But eventually it will rust. quote: ORIGINAL: CuriousLord PS- I read one of the articles. It appears that these robots don't truly "think" in the way that one might consider as actual intelligence, but merely simulate it. Quite, as it lacks divine characteristics, such as life.

Aneirin -> RE: Robots Lead Society (11/21/2007 4:55:22 PM)
The only thing good about machines is you can pull the plug out. But why are we creating an intelligence to be better than our own? Perhaps so man can be more lazy and let something that does'nt need paying do the work, but it is short sighted I think. The terminator films come to mind.

CuriousLord -> RE: Robots Lead Society (11/21/2007 8:26:34 PM)
..before I respond, were you being funny?

UtopianRanger -> RE: Robots Lead Society (11/22/2007 12:00:01 AM)
quote: Imagine. What could be the implications? Can robots 'learn' to think? I dunno.... but they're also part of a national surveillance apparatus. Read the blogs... There have been many eyewitnesses who've seen weird mechanical-looking, insect-like things flying around during the presidential debates. http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2007/10/09/is-that-a-dragonfly-or-an-insect-spy/ http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/10/dragonfly-uav-v.html - R

Rule -> RE: Robots Lead Society (11/22/2007 2:58:14 AM)
Both tongue in cheek and serious. There is such a thing as a soul; it is one of the four parts of the mind of normal humans. Your pertinent denial of its existence indicates ignorance. Most interesting, UtopianRanger.

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