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Do we need more moderators?


Yes we need more moderatores
  35% (5)
No we have enough moderators
  64% (9)


Total Votes : 14
(last vote on : 8/12/2005 11:04:02 AM)
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imtempting -> Do we need more moderators? (8/10/2005 9:03:05 PM)

Do we need more moderators?
Its not an attack on our current ones but I think with more mods there would be less flames and less questions against the TOS




stef -> RE: Do we need more moderators? (8/10/2005 9:25:26 PM)

They're not going to make you a moderator no matter how any times you do this. Give it a rest.

~stef




imtempting -> RE: Do we need more moderators? (8/11/2005 12:25:18 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sfgrrl

They're not going to make you a moderator no matter how any times you do this. Give it a rest.

~stef


Pmsl if I wanted to be a mod here then id re-join and be picture perfect posts.

Im a member of alot of forums and this is under-moderated. Flames are done alot and the fact of small mods then they cant keep up.

As I said in the other post it will be hard to find some good fair people but would be worth it.

Maybe even source else where.




Lordandmaster -> RE: Do we need more moderators? (8/11/2005 7:58:09 AM)

One of the things I've always like about CM is that the forums are moderated better than at sites like bondage.com. As the number of users and the amount of traffic increases, it stands to reason that more moderators are needed.




smilezz -> RE: Do we need more moderators? (8/11/2005 8:26:56 AM)

Only if people get butt hurt by what others type. Don't like it? ignore it. No big deal actually.

~smilezz~




feline -> RE: Do we need more moderators? (8/11/2005 10:17:41 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: smilezz

Only if people get butt hurt by what others type. Don't like it? ignore it. No big deal actually.

~smilezz~

Yea! what she said.



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proudsub -> RE: Do we need more moderators? (8/11/2005 2:08:22 PM)

quote:

Only if people get butt hurt by what others type. Don't like it? ignore it. No big deal actually.


Good answer!!




dominmd -> RE: Do we need more moderators? (8/11/2005 3:07:32 PM)

Excellent answer. Ignore the problem and the problem will go away.




Craftsman -> RE: Do we need more moderators? (8/11/2005 3:49:52 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: imtempting

Do we need more moderators?
Its not an attack on our current ones but I think with more mods there would be less flames and less questions against the TOS

Flames and flamers need fuel, and that fuel is the reaction of the people being flamed and those who react to the flaming. Take away the re-inforcement that responding to flames gives, and the flame dies for lack of fuel and/or lack of support.

It is very hard to ignore some flames when they are directed at ourselves. If we are Dominants, I think that ignoring flames is part of Dominant Self Control. If we are submissives, then I think ignoring flames places the flames in their proper perspective. In either event, a flame does not deserve any feeding from anyone.

Questions against the TOS by right need to be sent to a feedback forum of some kind. No matter how many moderators there are, none of us can act to interpret TOS. If TOS questions are properly directed, then the existing moderators can handle them.

If it gets to big for the mods to handle, I trust them enough to recognize the problem, and expand their number accordingly. If for some reason that changes, I need to take that concern to the moderators, not to the general membership.

That's my two cents worth on the topic. Your mileage may vary, and that's ok.





Lordandmaster -> RE: Do we need more moderators? (8/11/2005 8:38:21 PM)

I think the "eating cake" thread is a good example of why the site could use more moderators.

Edited to add: It's all well and good to say that we should ignore the flamers, and have thick skin, but when all the flaming pushes people away from the forums--and people have told me that the recent flaming has kept them away--then something is wrong.




MrThorns -> RE: Do we need more moderators? (8/11/2005 11:15:19 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

I think the "eating cake" thread is a good example of why the site could use more moderators.

Edited to add: It's all well and good to say that we should ignore the flamers, and have thick skin, but when all the flaming pushes people away from the forums--and people have told me that the recent flaming has kept them away--then something is wrong.


I'm actually fairly impressed with the mods for not having shut that one down yet. (Although, it's possible that they are just otherwise occupied and haven't gotten to it yet... but I think they may be waiting to see if we will "self-moderate" and solve the problem ourselves by not adding any further fuel to the fire.)

As insulting as that thread has become, there is still an intelligent conversation taking place...once you sift through the name calling and other nonsense. Having more mods is not the solution in my opinion, as some had a tendency to over-moderate and kill a thread because of a simple, civil disagreement. I have no issues in blocking a user or just letting go of a topic. (okay...I DO have issues letting go, especially regarding politics... but I still do it from time to time.)

~Thorns




Lordandmaster -> RE: Do we need more moderators? (8/11/2005 11:39:22 PM)

I agree that over-moderating can be a problem too. But I haven't seen too much of that here.

quote:

ORIGINAL: MrThorns

Having more mods is not the solution in my opinion, as some had a tendency to over-moderate and kill a thread because of a simple, civil disagreement.





UtopianRanger -> RE: Do we need more moderators? (8/12/2005 12:22:42 AM)

When you ask this question, it reminds me of a politician asking the people if we need more laws and police - I say definitely not!

The moderators on this site already do an excellent job. Plus, I've always been one that thinks a little anarchy once in a while is good for the soul.



- The Ranger




brightspot -> RE: Do we need more moderators? (8/12/2005 12:40:35 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: smilezz

Only if people get butt hurt by what others type. Don't like it? ignore it. No big deal actually.

~smilezz~


Yeah, what smilezz, said!
I think Our Mod's do a pretty dang good job.
What do you need to have Micromangement on a Fora[:D]?


*Brightspot




imtempting -> RE: Do we need more moderators? (8/12/2005 2:32:09 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MrThorns
but I think they may be waiting to see if we will "self-moderate" and solve the problem ourselves by not adding any further fuel to the fire.)]
~Thorns


That never happens. People will aways say something unless its blocked or told not too.

Its all good we can block them but what about new people. They would click on threads and see flames against people. Why would they stay?

And micromanagement, if that could happen then there would be no need for mods.




subversiveone -> RE: Do we need more moderators? (8/12/2005 4:25:45 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

I think the "eating cake" thread is a good example of why the site could use more moderators.

Edited to add: It's all well and good to say that we should ignore the flamers, and have thick skin, but when all the flaming pushes people away from the forums--and people have told me that the recent flaming has kept them away--then something is wrong.



I agree with LAM here. It's very annoying when you take the time to write something halfway interesting and someone comes a long and nitpicks it apart without any regard for the gist of post or intention behind it. There are a lot of individuals here that seem to be more about the debate than the discussion. The one that gets my goat never has an original question or post, just jumps on the replies and starts waving their IQ around. However, that doesn't push me away from the forums. I ignore the threads that turn into kindling and the people that seem to have that streak in them. I don't think the mods should have to babysit this thing 24/7. After all, worst case scenario, one might be discouraged from posting momentarily but if they turn tail and run they won't find any safer haven for this sort of discussion.




pinkpleasures -> RE: Do we need more moderators? (8/12/2005 8:30:06 AM)

Anyone of the caliber of ModOne would add value to the site.

pinkpleasures




MrThorns -> RE: Do we need more moderators? (8/12/2005 9:13:31 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: imtempting

quote:

ORIGINAL: MrThorns
but I think they may be waiting to see if we will "self-moderate" and solve the problem ourselves by not adding any further fuel to the fire.)]
~Thorns



That never happens. People will aways say something unless its blocked or told not too.

Its all good we can block them but what about new people. They would click on threads and see flames against people. Why would they stay?

And micromanagement, if that could happen then there would be no need for mods.


I does happen, because it has happened in the past. I recall a lot of posts by certain shit-stirrers that were designed for the sole purpose of starting flames. Some posts were closed by moderators, but that didn't solve the problem. What seemed to solve the problem was that people stopped responding to that person's posts. He/she/it finally drifted off to somewhere else to play their games.

Why will new people stay? Because they realize that there is still a lot of good information here and that they do not have to respond to the flamers.

As for your reference to micromanagement... Huh?

~Thorns




imtempting -> RE: Do we need more moderators? (8/12/2005 9:29:09 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MrThorns

As for your reference to micromanagement... Huh?

~Thorns


Its late, ive had a rough week. Family members having heart attacks like yesterday so be happy im not running around being offense to people.

Its not a cry for sympathy either.




FTopinMichigan -> RE: Do we need more moderators? (8/12/2005 11:11:58 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: imtempting

Do we need more moderators?
Its not an attack on our current ones but I think with more mods there would be less flames and less questions against the TOS


As seen in some threads, it would be wonderful if people could just state their opinion, without attacking the poster for thiers. <g> I don't mind reading heated discussions, or even those that resort to name calling. I feel those that flame are just showing their true self to folks, and if you think about, this is a good thing. Doesn't make them look very attractive, does it?

One of the reasons I voted for "more" moderators, is that lately I've seen quite a few posts held for approvals. With the huge volume of posts I've seen (only started enjoying the Message Boards recently), and the number of posts waiting for approval, I just see this as being indicative of the current moderators having a lot of work to do.

If they feel they (the current moderators) need help...then more modetators may be the answer. IMO, having more moderators won't stop the flames.

K




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