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slaveboyforyou -> RE: Liked Math? Disliked Geometry? Or Vice Versa? (11/22/2007 6:41:56 PM)

I hated both.  I had to take gemoetry in high school, and it was a chore to stay awake.  The teacher was a retired Army colonel that also headed the JROTC department.  He used to slam his pointer stick down on the desk to wake us up, plus he was good friends with my dad.  So I had to actually behave in that class <lol>.  I did learn the entire military phonetic alphabet in there, because he used it when referring to letters in formulas or on graphs.  Math just wasn't my subject.  I was forced to take college algebra, and I had to study my ass off just to make a C.   



popeye1250 -> RE: Liked Math? Disliked Geometry? Or Vice Versa? (11/22/2007 10:20:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

Hated math for the sake of math, now applied math, that was easy and I enjoyed it, Loved trigonometry and geometry,perhaps it is in the seeing of what is going on is the key to it all.

Algebra, er, I could do it, but it was difficult,I could see the use of it, but have never used it, not once and I have been in engineering all my life.

Calculus, aaarrrrrggghhh, the very word brings back yukky memories.


Aneirin, one of my Navy buddys went on to Georgia Tech and got his degree in Electrical Engineering and he told me the same thing you said.
He said he uses geometry, trig and a little calculous once in a while.



MissMagnolia -> RE: Liked Math? Disliked Geometry? Or Vice Versa? (11/22/2007 10:29:13 PM)

I felt a cold shiver run through me when I say the "m" word.

I never once passed maths. Not once. If it's got numbers in it, my eyes glaze over and my IQ drops to 13.

That's why god invented calculators.[:D]



Lumus -> RE: Liked Math? Disliked Geometry? Or Vice Versa? (11/23/2007 12:11:53 AM)

I excelled in Mathematics.  So I can only suppose...

*waves his hand before dcnovice*

This is not the Dominant you are looking for...



DomKen -> RE: Liked Math? Disliked Geometry? Or Vice Versa? (11/23/2007 12:54:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aneirin

Hated math for the sake of math, now applied math, that was easy and I enjoyed it, Loved trigonometry and geometry,perhaps it is in the seeing of what is going on is the key to it all.

Algebra, er, I could do it, but it was difficult,I could see the use of it, but have never used it, not once and I have been in engineering all my life.

Calculus, aaarrrrrggghhh, the very word brings back yukky memories.


Aneirin, one of my Navy buddys went on to Georgia Tech and got his degree in Electrical Engineering and he told me the same thing you said.
He said he uses geometry, trig and a little calculous once in a while.

That's surpassing odd. Circuit design is all about algebra. Ohm's Law is a direct excursion into basic algebra problem solving. So is voltage and current across a transformer. Ditto such a basic thing as finding the capacitor/inductor ratings needed to produce a particular frequency in a signal generator.



Crush -> RE: Liked Math? Disliked Geometry? Or Vice Versa? (11/23/2007 1:10:37 PM)

One of my degrees in Mathematics, so I'm partial to math.  It was actually my trig teacher in 11th grade that brought out the "love of math" for me.   Otherwise, I probably would have been an engineering geek :)

However, the math class that "did it" for me was a graduate course in "Set Theory and Logic."   That's the most fundamental you can get in math...everything else hinges on it.  




Raechard -> RE: Liked Math? Disliked Geometry? Or Vice Versa? (11/23/2007 2:53:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: stella41b
My Maths teacher once asked me to explain 4x + 2y = 36 and I told him it was 'complete gibberish'. I got detention. But I'm right.


4x+2y=36
y=36-4x/2
4x+36-4x=36
4x-4x=0 (x=y)
4x+2x=36
36/6=x
x=6

4*6+2*6=36

and then I got a life.[:D]



popeye1250 -> RE: Liked Math? Disliked Geometry? Or Vice Versa? (11/23/2007 3:25:50 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aneirin

Hated math for the sake of math, now applied math, that was easy and I enjoyed it, Loved trigonometry and geometry,perhaps it is in the seeing of what is going on is the key to it all.

Algebra, er, I could do it, but it was difficult,I could see the use of it, but have never used it, not once and I have been in engineering all my life.

Calculus, aaarrrrrggghhh, the very word brings back yukky memories.


Aneirin, one of my Navy buddys went on to Georgia Tech and got his degree in Electrical Engineering and he told me the same thing you said.
He said he uses geometry, trig and a little calculous once in a while.

That's surpassing odd. Circuit design is all about algebra. Ohm's Law is a direct excursion into basic algebra problem solving. So is voltage and current across a transformer. Ditto such a basic thing as finding the capacitor/inductor ratings needed to produce a particular frequency in a signal generator.



LOL, he doesn't "design circuits."
He owns his own business and has other EE's working for him.



InkedMaster -> RE: Liked Math? Disliked Geometry? Or Vice Versa? (11/23/2007 4:17:07 PM)

I never liked math, algebra, geometry or trig...now I find myself having to use these equations and formulas on a semi regular basis for my work. What a cruel world we live in!



MysticFireTopaz -> RE: Liked Math? Disliked Geometry? Or Vice Versa? (11/23/2007 4:21:32 PM)

I DETESTED geometry with a passion, but liked all of my other math classes including algebra, trigonometry, and calculus.
 
Oh, for theories why....I'm not good with spatial relationships and thought maybe that is why I didn't like geometry.  I was bored senseless and HATED it.  It seemed so different from the other math classes, which I liked.
 
Lady Topaz



Arpig -> RE: Liked Math? Disliked Geometry? Or Vice Versa? (11/23/2007 7:24:50 PM)

I rather liked them both actually...though geometry was more fun overall



DomKen -> RE: Liked Math? Disliked Geometry? Or Vice Versa? (11/23/2007 10:23:48 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Raechard

quote:

ORIGINAL: stella41b
My Maths teacher once asked me to explain 4x + 2y = 36 and I told him it was 'complete gibberish'. I got detention. But I'm right.


4x+2y=36
y=36-4x/2
4x+36-4x=36
4x-4x=0 (x=y)
4x+2x=36
36/6=x
x=6

4*6+2*6=36

and then I got a life.[:D]

bzzt wrong.
You showed your work so you get partial credit I guess.

4x + 2y =36 describes a line on a standard x/y axis graph. The simplest way to describe a line is to identify two points that are on the line and then the line can simply be drawn through those points.

In this case I'll use the simple approach and solve the equation in the cae where x and y are 0.
4x + 2(0) = 36
4x = 36
x = 9
therefore the first point is (9,0)

The second case
4(0) + 2y = 36
2y = 36
y =18

therefore the second point is (0,18)

connect those points on graph paper using a straight edge and you find that every pair of numbers on the line is a valid solution for the equation.



dcnovice -> RE: Liked Math? Disliked Geometry? Or Vice Versa? (11/23/2007 10:28:44 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Raechard

quote:

ORIGINAL: stella41b
My Maths teacher once asked me to explain 4x + 2y = 36 and I told him it was 'complete gibberish'. I got detention. But I'm right.


4x+2y=36
y=36-4x/2
4x+36-4x=36
4x-4x=0 (x=y)
4x+2x=36
36/6=x
x=6

4*6+2*6=36

and then I got a life.[:D]

bzzt wrong.
You showed your work so you get partial credit I guess.

4x + 2y =36 describes a line on a standard x/y axis graph. The simplest way to describe a line is to identify two points that are on the line and then the line can simply be drawn through those points.

In this case I'll use the simple approach and solve the equation in the cae where x and y are 0.
4x + 2(0) = 36
4x = 36
x = 9
therefore the first point is (9,0)

The second case
4(0) + 2y = 36
2y = 36
y =18

therefore the second point is (0,18)

connect those points on graph paper using a straight edge and you find that every pair of numbers on the line is a valid solution for the equation.


Okay, I'm now officially having a PTSD flashback.



Raechard -> RE: Liked Math? Disliked Geometry? Or Vice Versa? (11/24/2007 10:17:16 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen
bzzt wrong.


I think I'll stick to six being the answer to everything as it has served me well thus far[:D].



dcnovice -> RE: Liked Math? Disliked Geometry? Or Vice Versa? (11/24/2007 10:19:13 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Raechard

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen
bzzt wrong.


I think I'll stick to six being the answer to everything as it has served me well thus far[:D].


I thought 42 was the answer to everything.



kdsub -> RE: Liked Math? Disliked Geometry? Or Vice Versa? (11/24/2007 11:14:32 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Yeah, I liked geometry too.
But, from the very first day I couldn't understand aljebra.
The teacher just started writing stuff on the board and just kept going without explaining any of it!
I was like, "what the fuck is this guy trying to say?"
There must have been about a thousand "rules" to follow in aljebra and he just went from one to the next to the next in rapid succession because; "we have a lot of material to cover."
I think that's the wrong way to teach. By the end of the class the blackboards would be full of numbers and equations and everyone would be looking at each other with that "WTF" look on their faces.
Then, on tests I'd solve the problems using simple math and he'd mark my answers wrong because I didn't use "aljebra."
Geometry was different because I could "see" what the teacher was talking about on the board.
Males are more spacially oriented so Geometry is easier and more interesting to us.
I could imagine being an Engineer and using geometry to build a bridge for example.


We may be a little alike when it comes to math… I was good at it but became bored when my teachers got hung up on technicalities instead of real world uses for what we were learning.

I ended up often using math in my job so some did sink in…but I would have been a better student if class had been more practical and less theoretical and technical.

Butch



Raechard -> RE: Liked Math? Disliked Geometry? Or Vice Versa? (11/24/2007 11:57:45 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: dcnovice
I thought 42 was the answer to everything.


6*7=42 Thus 6 is integral to the answer to everything for those in the know.[;)]



corsetgirl -> RE: Liked Math? Disliked Geometry? Or Vice Versa? (11/24/2007 12:26:47 PM)

I liked math better than Algebra or Geometry. Probably because when I was in the 10th grade, this teacher was an old military retired Army colonel who ran the class with an iron fist.  He also had a deskplate on the front of his desk stating "Be Reasonable, Do it My Way!" [:'(]  Back then, if I did not like the teacher, I would not put enough effort into the class!

He also revealed to the class that he would do some leatherwork and looking back at this 30 years ago, perhaps he was a DOM!  I failed that class terribly but made A's and B's in another Algebra class that was taught by a high school football coach who made the class fun instead of going through the lecture route.  I believe this all depends on the teacher and every student is different in learning these things.



seeksfemslave -> RE: Liked Math? Disliked Geometry? Or Vice Versa? (11/24/2007 4:45:53 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Raechard

quote:

ORIGINAL: stella41b
My Maths teacher once asked me to explain 4x + 2y = 36 and I told him it was 'complete gibberish'. I got detention. But I'm right.


4x+2y=36
y=36-4x/2         -------->>>>> wrong
4x+36-4x=36   ie 36 = 36 wot a surprise that is
4x-4x=0 (x=y) or another surprise 4x = 4x
Lost the will to live now
4x+2x=36
36/6=x
x=6
4*6+2*6=36
and then I got a life.[:D]



Solipsistic -> RE: Liked Math? Disliked Geometry? Or Vice Versa? (11/24/2007 11:42:14 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Crush
However, the math class that "did it" for me was a graduate course in "Set Theory and Logic."   That's the most fundamental you can get in math...everything else hinges on it.  


This was the same for me.  It was really a pleasure learning such elegant and basic math in this course and a shame that most people never have the chance because of the typical progression of math taught in schools.



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