Termyn8or
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I, for one do not believe that morality needs any religious core or any underpinnings of the sort.
I believe there comes a time in life when one wants to be accepted, trusted and liked by others. Don't confuse this with the popularity contests of youth, it is different, very different. I've told people things and have had them storm out the door, only to return later and say "You were right".
Never lie, to lie is to infer that the person you arer lying to has some sort of power over you. For some reason you have to please them. But it always will backfire once the lie is discovered. If the shit is going to hit the fan, spin the fucker up right now and poop on. Don't wait until some unexpected time in the future when you are not ready for the fallout. The truth is still the truth and it always was. Handle it in the here and now, not in the who knows when.
Never steal. I must say there are exceptions to this. Some need to steal to live, others steal for luxury. There are exceptions. If you can steal ALOT, I mean enough to set you up for life, do what you want, but in normal life with your people you generally do not have that chance because they don't have enough.
Almost 30 years ago Dad and I mused about a robbery. He always said don't steal junk. We know plenty of people who went to jail for junk. Even though the booty was nice, I am glad we didn't do it, see we were talking about robbing a bookie. The loot would have been around ½ a million. But then we have to move far away. And for that kind of money, they might have come looking. It came to an agreement that we didn't want to watch our backs for the rest of our lives.
Which brings us to the real reason not to steal. Nothing you can steal is worth the trust you lose. I don't care how much it is, some things are replaceable, others are not.
Never hurt anyone unless they deserve it. I mean that, and I mean be careful about that. Many murders are borne out of misunderstanding. I mean humans turn into animals under certain conditions, and when that happens the fan is on high and the shit will fly.
There comes a time in life when you want to brighten peoples' doorsteps, not darken them. That has happened to most of my crowd. Is that like a rebirth ? Maybe. I never knew anyone who robbed a bookie, but they robbed the runner. Some hijacked truckloads of who knows what. Others have run scams that literally put certain businesses out of business. Big ones.
And I won't even go into the things I have done, just suffice it to say if there was a cop around about 20 years ago I would still be locked up.
Are we all off the hook because we stopped ? I think not. Two things keep me honest, one is that I would not want to be caught. The other is that I would not want it to happen to me. I have implemented that and it is working. I do leave my door unlocked. Some people know what is up here and where it is, could make a nice day's pay out of cleaning me out. Those who would do not know this. Those who know would not do it.
Here is where I will hit your question with a question.
I got this buddy who has been lifting my weed. He does it by slight of hand and my other buddy caught it because of his vantage point, but I now know. You see if you steal from a friend you also put them in a sticky wicket. I do not want to write this guy off, but things are tough and I can't afford to lose anything at the moment.
This guy helps the olman, mows our grass and all that, but every time we go to burn one and he breaks it up and deseeds it he pockets a little bit. This by slight of hand. I couldn't see it because of how the seats are arrainged, but it was brought to my attention. I really don't know what to do ultimately, but for now I have simply removed the opportunity.
You see I am the one who has been ripped off, and now I have to think. And I find it hard to take the moral high ground because of my shenanegins of the past. And don't even think of the past, years ago I would have left the guy dead in a ditch somewhere, but that is not my way. Now.
So now we got a guy who wants to play the game with me. Too bad he did not bring a brain. He has no idea who he is fucking with. I am to the point now that if I've known you for a couple years I could just about make you want to kill yourself. Use your every word against you, and of course add a few of my own.
And I got plenty of ammo on this guy, he is already depressed, it probably wouldn't take much. He has good reason to be depressed, his ex hasn't let him see his kids for years, he was divorced in absentia and can't have a driver's license anymore. I could destroy him with words, and either induce suicide or a new birth of some sort, he is fragile in his current state. He is hooked up with an equally insecure GF who got him a cellphone.
Guys, if a Woman ever offers to get you a cellphone, RUN ! You think a collar is something ? A collar is not shit compared to a cellphone.
So where is my morality ? He rips me off but I do not want to destroy him, it does not warrant that. I could get revenge in notime flat. Why don't I ?
Now that is morality, part of morality is forgivness, because if you are going to avenge every little thing that ever happened to you in life, you will be very busy, and very unhappy. If you even harbor hate, which I have in the past, it makes it hard to concentrate, hard to focus on anything else. It is better to simply refuse to hate.
Same with anger, it does no good to try to control anger. It is much better simply to refuse to get angry. I can prove you can do it, and I do not need cites or quotes, a simple anectodotal situation will suffice. I can prove right here and now that anger is something that you can refuse or accept. I am going to include that because I think it does have a bearing on the subject.
Anger, the feeling one experiences when hurt, defamed or otherwise wronged. It is indeed a natural response, but Men and Women have a grip on it. Let's take the case of slap boxing, or even boxing with gloves. You might get worked up if your opponent gets in on you or otherwise gets the upper hand, but you do not feel anger. That is what both of you are there for, the test of strength, the contest. This is an oponent, whether he is a friend or not there is no anger.
Also take the case of playing with kids. One of them as you wrestle or whatwever, steps on your balls. It HURTS ! Where is the anger ? It is simply not there.
So this pretty much proves that anger is best controlled at it's inception. You refuse it. This is alot more effective than trying to stem it's results later. You simply refuse to get angry. This ability is a prerequisite to being what I and many others call an adult.
First you stop acting on your feelings, later you see there was no need for those feelings in the first place. Once you see that you actualy see other people as people. And you accept their flaws as well, or you walk away.
When you get to the point where you are past those petty emotions and behavior such as that of a little kid, then you need no moral compass. Once you get it through your head that you are living in a society and that other people are people too, you are on the right track.
And the irony of it all, and I usually like irony, is that I do not think morality can be taught. It is learned for sure, but not taught. I am starting to think that it can't be taught. No Bible or law book wil tell you how to live until it is in your own mind to live that way, and neither of those examples are any good. Screw the ten commandments, I would rather live under eight of the nine charges of Odinism.
To boil it all down, everbody thinks that whatever they are doing is OK, otherwise they would not do it. They could be wrecking the country or the environment, enriching themselves off of the public through, but they think that is OK.
And actually having no children I have no vested interest in stopping them. Sorry folks but that is how it is. The problem comes when they try to impose their morals on me. Like gambling. I love to gamble, but you see I do not believe in luck, nor anything for that matter.
When I gamble it is a matter of mathematics and skill. I don't play hunches, I don't have feelings, I don't have favorites. Who the fuck are they to tell me I can't do that ?
In FL they busted a bunch of old Men for playing pinochle for a penny a point. Fuck you, it was MY penny and I shall do with it what I please. Another thing I saw in FL was on the local news - "they passed a law making it a crime to ______", don't remember exactly what it was but holy shit, are you that brainwashed ? That subservient that the government tells you what is a crime ?
A real crime is and always has been a crime. What is not a crime cannot be made a crime by a bunch of suits. They can make things illegal, but they cannot make anything a crime unless it was a crime all along.
I am an outlaw. I am wanted in two counties but fuck them, because I did not hurt anyone. Anyone. I will never surrender nor turn myself in, I simply did not hurt anyone. In the past I had car wrecks, and it was before the mandatory insurance days. And I paid each and every one of them off. With this current shit I hurt noone. No wrecks, I learned how to drive. I didn't hurt anyone. I have no dent on my car, and I haven't even put a littles scratch on anyone else's. So they can go fuck themselves.
That's my morality. And it goes further, you ain't going to let me drive, guess what, I ain't paying your fucking taxes anymore, and I don't. Let them come for me, because all that would mean is they have to clothe me and feed me, and like last time, I will be the best damn jailhouse lawyer they ever saw.
You would be surprised at how many people in jail have no idea of what their legal rights are. But this has nothing to do with morality, as well as who is in jail and who is not has nothing to do with morality.
We are given a skewed and slewed picture of the world by the controlled media. We are told what is right and wrong by them as well as the churches. And now they are telling us it is moral to spend the rent to make our childrens' Chistmas special.
So your landlord doesn't get the rent on time, but he was coming over thinking in his own head that he was going to take that rent and buy his kids a bunch of junk. But he desn't get the money this time. You spent it.
There is so much more to morality than not killing, raping and stealing that I could go on all night. But I won't.
I wish for all of us us be in a safe venue where we can be ourselves. Where you can leave your purse open on the table and someone will gesture that they would like to use the lighter they see in there. Yet they will not go further. You trust them not to go further.
You do not go into my pants when I am sleeping and grab a twenty, you wake me up and ask me for money. Why ? "I want to go down to Honey Hut and get some icecream". Here's a twenty, go, and I'll take some too. Honey Hut is indigounous to Cleveland I believe, and they do not use sugar, only honey. Their icecream is something like thirty-two bucks a gallon. They sell it in pints, half pints and so forth.
I might lay in the bed and just say "It's in my wallet, and get me a pint of honey pecan". Now that I think of it it is more like sixteen bucks a gallon. Whatever it is, it is very expensive.
And never mind those phone numbers and whatever else you see in my wallet. If I wanted to play around I would, but if I made any kind of commitment I would stick to it. Those numbers are not other Women, this is business and you shall not write those numbers down and call to harrass them, you shall not show that mistrust in me. If you do, you are O U T. It is that simple. Of course Women will answer the phone if you call some of those numbers, but that doesn't mean I am boning them. And if you interfere with my business, my morality allows me to kill you. So think twice.
So morality ascends to another level upon the establishment of a relationship. Let me tell you something about that, albeit my opinion, I think it is valid. Any Man who cheats on his Woman is a dog, not a Man. Period. Anyone who makes a commitment to be mongamous and then strays is not a Man nor a Woman. Their word is no fucking good and that is that.
The guy pinching my bag with the two finger shuffle pales in comparison. This is minor. He is going to get officilly caught somehow, and his day comes. But when you make a commitment, you expect more. This is a guy, we do not have that.
But if I say "It's you and me babe" and all the rest comes down, moving in and all that, I expect a Woman, not a dog. and that Woman has every right to expect a Man, not a dog.
Morality is what seperates us from the animals. I like animals. A friend of mine used to have a monkey, but that is before we met. All kinds of animals, except a few. If I want an animal I can go get one, when I want a Woman I did not come looking for an animal.
That is the difference.
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