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Termyn8or -> RE: Why ? (11/25/2007 9:13:24 AM)
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So many cans of worms, so little time.
Let's touch on the Arabian incident for a moment. She talked to the media against court orders, and her sentence was increased. OK fine, but what was the original sentence for ?
What's more, how is it that in an Arab nation they are not executing the rapist ?
If it is to be a male dominated society, doesn't a certain level of responsibility fall on the males ? Like don't go out raping Women ? First of all I think rapists should be executed, everywhere.
But I don't hold that viewpoint for the reason you might think. It is not the trauma to the victim, in fact, I could go so far as to say so what. Somebody stuck something in your hole you didn't want, boo hoo. Traumatic yes, I agreee and sympathize, but you can get over it, some don't, but most do. That is not what I am talking about.
What I mean is that the type of person who would rape anyone needs to be permanently excised from our society. I don't want that kind of animal on the planet with me. If you look at a Woman as a receptacle for your penis, how do you look at me ?
You see it is time for a new morality, because the old one simply isn't working. If a society is male dominated, fine. Being a Man I can understand that, more on that later, but for now I say I don't see how Arabs in this case don't see rape as one of the most eggregious of crimes, not only by it's nature, but because of the abuse of power it entails. How is it this guy only gets a couple of years ?
Are my beloved extremists going soft ?
The fact of the matter is that Islamic religion is just as flawed as the others. There are biological facts that make the Man dominant to the Woman. This is never addressed in any religion.
Dammit I am hijacking myself again.
Man was put in a superior position to Women by nature. No book, no Bible, Koran, nothing of the sort. When mankind started to civilize he started cohabitating with Women. Now let's get a picture of the situation here eh ? No Enfamil, no Similac, no diapers even.
As primitive as can be. Now procreation is of course of prime importance, and certain body functions have made Man physically stronger than Women. Of course this disparity is receeding in the modern age, but it is not completely gone.
The fact of the matter is that Women bear the children, and even though those among the healthier can continue to work up until "labor day", which is a good thing, the pregnant Woman must be defended.
It all worked, as nature does when allowed to take her course. The Woman bears the child and gives birth. Also the breasts that feed said child are on the Woman. Therefore what happened is that Women got into the role of caring for the children, instead of plowing fields or hunting.
Therefore the Man had to do it, and as a result became stronger physically. Face it, it would be impractical for a Woman to go hunting and plowing, only to be interrupted for the many feedings. Being in the house more, she adapted. As a result Women were not as strong physically, and from strength comes power.
Not that she was lazy, by no means. However lifting pots and pans and such did not bring the physical strength that her mate possesed. So in time this physical strength became an asset to the Man, and made him more appealing to the Woman. In turn, even though she did not lay brick, plow the field and hunt down dinosaurs (jk there), she was still fit. She did not sit on her ass all day and stayed trim.
This made her more desirable to the male. In turn, human psychology came to some conclusions, that a big strong strapping Man was what a Woman wants, and a Man has to have someone to protect. Not that Men would seek the frail or the weak, in fact I would guess it is quite the opposite. You want her to be strong, to be ble to hold up her end of the deal, the deal of survival.
And there is always the fact that neither Man nor Woman can survive without the other. Sure you can live your life alone, but there is no procreation, and without procreation, none of us would be here today.
What many of us do now perverts nature. That is a fact. I might wear a chastity belt, you might get more turned on by a whipping than sex. This is all counter-reproductive. Is it wrong ?
Well my opinion on that is equally controversial. Back when there were ten people or so on this Earth, anything that did not make babies would be wrong. At a time like that we, as a SPECIES is fighting for survival. But now with overpopulation and the world barely able to feed itself, I see kink as a natural reaction.
I am fully aware of how ironic that is, to say what I have said and then declare kink to be natural, but that is the way I see it. The traditional roles I of which spoke of are being erased, the human race, as a whole, knows we have too many people. The entire human race has responded to the problem, and found ways to get off without procreating.
But back to the OP, my boss has let me drink and smoke at work. Why ? To him it is a compromise. He doesn't like it, but to keep me happy, oh well. He realizes that no power is absolute. He realizes that although he is the leader, the owner of the company, there are other people involved and he can't make it without those people, of which I am one.
So the Man in days of yore would strive to please his Woman, try to make her happy, and bask in that family environment once his tasks for the day were done. He was the boss, but deferred to her if he was smart when it came to certain matters. That is what I am talking about NOT ABUSING POWER. That is a hard thing to do for some.
Imagine yourself living in a log cabin somewhere out in the sticks and some robbers come along. You say "Woman, get my gun, and fast". That is not abusing power, that is using power. That means drop the kid on the floor if necessary, but if I don't get that gun fast enough we all could be dead. That decision is made by a Man.
Perhaps I shoot a couple of the marauders, who want to steal our livelyhood. Perhaps they come back, and then I have to kill them all. I think she will be happy to be alive and see that all of our children are OK. You would think eh ?
There is nothing more dangerous to a thief than a Man who knows how to shoot and is low on bullets. Even a gang of thieves. And then if he falls, hopefully he has taught his Woman how to shoot and can successfully defend the kids. And she will if she can, believe me, if there is a threat to the kids, or UMs in this forum, she will become more of a Man than you will ever see.
Teach her to shoot, even knock her around, but not in anger, to prepare her for such an eventuality. Make her strong. Never abuse, and never strike in anger. This is the important part. If you go to a Dojo (a martial arts teacher) and he hits you is that abuse ? I think not.
If money hadn't taken control this planet could be a utopia. But as it stands now if I were on the Enterprise, I would not even consider bringing my loved ones here.
I hate to bring up a TV show, but the original Star Trek had alot of lessons. Hypothetical in nature of course, but they brought up some very interesting points. Kahn : "yes there have been technological advances, but improve Man, and you gain a thousandfold". Then the Organians, we simply are not going to deal with this. Then a planet at war fought with computers, people willingly walked into disintegration chambers. Gene Rodenberry was a fucking genius IMO, and brought so many points up, even tribbles. Why can't I have a tribble ? Well there is a very good reason for that.
Rodenberry seemed to have a special insight, he brought in so many different angles, or tangents in life. When you learned about different races' morality and values, even though they were all fictional, it would wake your mind up. You would think. Nothing today even comes close to being as inspiring in that respect.
OK lessee here, I have hijacked myself twice in one post. Anyone care to try to top that ? You opinions, as always, are welcome.
T
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