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Real0ne -> 20,000 More Good Reasons to Stay in Iraq (11/24/2007 3:23:54 PM)


20,000 vets' brain injuries not listed in Pentagon tally






Termyn8or -> RE: 20,000 More Good Reasons to Stay in Iraq (11/24/2007 3:56:44 PM)

The link worked but gave me no text.

Anyway, it doesn't matter, every Man Woman and child in Iraq is dead sooner or later due to the use of DU weapons.We have yet to see the results. They best keep Ron Paul out of the Whitehouse or there will most likely be a very serious investigation.

Do you understand ? Any of you who have relatives serving in Iraq, you are going to watch them die of cancer, get it, got it ? Good. I am sorry, but I didn't do it.

Look up depleted uranium weapons and it comes clear. The effects might not show up right away, but they have pretty much killed a generation almost. I want to go to hell just to see the MFs burn. I'll take mine as long as they get their's.

There is no cure poissible as the carcinogen is impossible to remove from the body. Have a look see at the deformed babies born in Iraq, and don't get overwhelmed by the deja vu when you start seeing it here. Of course it will not be in the controlled media, but within your own family you might have the misfortune to know about it. It would probably be better if every soldier serving in Iraq simply gets a vasectomy. The "fallout" from this shit will take decades to manifest.

But then nothing is new in the world, from Bikini Atoll to the desert, they never cared about the grunt doing the dirty work. They PURPOSELY blew off a nuke in the presence of US soldier just to see what happens. They PURPOSELY gave sufferers of syphillis a placebo just to see what happens. This is all documented fact for anyone who has not been living in a vacuum or on the moon or something. I refuse to pander to those who require an http or something to prove these things, they have been common knowledge for decades.

So what makes anyone think they are going to start caring now, all of the sudden ?

However I am starting to think it is time for a reference base. Real and I and a few others should maybe put together a comprehensive database. Warning, if we do this it will shatter your illusion of freedom, and destroy your "patriotism" in it's current form. Possibly even your religious faith if any. It did mine. Man's inhumanity to Man is a subject that is practically inexhaustable. Sometimes I wonder why we bother.

I know this much, I would be much happier not knowing what I know. I could be in my own little world playing a video game, and thinking that life is a game. I am overwhelmed by it, and can just barely cope with it. Every bit of joy I get out of life is hard earned.

I am shortly going to be on my way to the Saturday night jam session with two guitars, an amp and a really kickass electric piano. We are going to forget about all this shit for a few hours. But I will be back, and things will be the same.

I ran across part one of the Protocols in the bathroom bookshelf. Yesm there was a reason some people called the bathroom a library. I have reread it, and the words ring truer than they ever have.

T




OrionTheWolf -> RE: 20,000 More Good Reasons to Stay in Iraq (11/24/2007 5:24:40 PM)

So what did those studies about DU being used in Kosovo turn up?

To the OP, hell they cannot even guarantee the correct figures from Vietnam, this many years later. Every administration has kept the closet closed on the treatment of Vets, within the VA, and the figures about casualties from any conflict. Everything else should be suspect as well. I doubt any of us will ever know the truth.

Orion




Real0ne -> RE: 20,000 More Good Reasons to Stay in Iraq (11/24/2007 5:38:09 PM)

20,000 vets' brain injuries not listed in Pentagon tally
By Gregg Zoroya, USA TODAY

At least 20,000 U.S. troops who were not classified as wounded during combat in Iraq and Afghanistan have been found with signs of brain injuries, according to military and veterans records compiled by USA TODAY.

The data, provided by the Army, Navy and Department of Veterans Affairs, show that about five times as many troops sustained brain trauma as the 4,471 officially listed by the Pentagon through Sept. 30. These cases also are not reflected in the Pentagon's official tally of wounded, which stands at 30,327.
HIDDEN WOUNDS: Marine didn't recognize signs of brain injury The number of brain-injury cases were tabulated from records kept by the VA and four military bases that house units that have served multiple combat tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. One base released its count of brain injuries at a medical conference. The others provided their records at the request of USA TODAY, in some cases only after a Freedom of Information Act filing was submitted.

USA TODAY ARCHIVES: Brain injuries from war worse than thought The data came from: • Landstuhl Army Regional Medical Center in Germany, where troops evacuated from Iraq and Afghanistan for injury, illness or wounds are brought before going home. Since May 2006, more than 2,300 soldiers screened positive for brain injury, hospital spokeswoman Marie Shaw says.
• Fort Hood, Texas, home of the 4th Infantry Division, which returned from a second Iraq combat tour late last year. At least 2,700 soldiers suffered a combat brain injury, Lt. Col. Steve Stover says. • Fort Carson, Colo., where more than 2,100 soldiers screened were found to have suffered a brain injury, according to remarks by Army Col. Heidi Terrio before a brain injury association seminar. • Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton, where 1,737 Marines were found to have suffered a brain injury, according to Navy Cmdr. Martin Holland, a neurosurgeon with the Naval Medical Center San Diego. • VA hospitals, where Iraq and Afghanistan veterans have been screened for combat brain injuries since April. The VA found about 20% of 61,285 surveyed — or 11,804 veterans — with signs of brain injury, spokeswoman Alison Aikele says. VA doctors say more evaluation is necessary before a true diagnosis of brain injury can be confirmed in all these cases, Aikele says.


Soldiers and Marines whose wounds were discovered after they left Iraq are not added to the official casualty list, says Army Col. Robert Labutta, a neurologist and brain injury consultant for the Pentagon. "We are working to do a better job of reflecting accurate data in the official casualty table," Labutta says. Most of the new cases involve mild or moderate brain injuries, commonly from exposure to blasts. More than 150,000 troops may have suffered head injuries in combat, says Rep. Bill Pascrell, D-N.J., founder of the Congressional Brain Injury Task Force.
"I am wary that the number of brain-injured troops far exceeds the total number reported injured," he says. About 1.5 million troops have served in Iraq, where traumatic brain injury can occur despite heavy body armor worn by troops. Share this story:





Termyn8or -> RE: 20,000 More Good Reasons to Stay in Iraq (11/25/2007 7:30:07 AM)

Hate to say it, but if they joined the military their brain was not working anyway.

T




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