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slaveboyforyou -> RE: Multiculturalim is dangurous? (11/29/2007 3:27:42 PM)

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slaveboyforyou:
As long as you base your view of reality on a movie then you will always view reality as such.
thompson


I never said I base my view of reality on a movie.  I think you need to lighten up, old man.  I don't see anything unrealistic about clogged cities and huge urban slums being the result of unchecked immigration.  




LadyEllen -> RE: Multiculturalim is dangurous? (11/29/2007 3:30:35 PM)

Hi NG

Yes - I realise we maybe cant get everyone to take part at this time in our democratic processes. This is why we need to reform our democratic processes urgently as part of a new settlement.

But, this is a wipe the slate clean and start again kinda thing. Only complete and utter fools would not participate, surely? And if they dont participate then they have no business whatsoever in wanting to affect things later or disobey the decisions reached.

If you read what I wrote by the way, I did not say that we should ask for rules, but put rules to the test of approval or disapproval. A simple tick the box exercise, yes or no, a) b) c) sort of affair.

You say the English speak English - and here you are tying yourself into the argument about who is English that you appear to wish to avoid. The fact is, regardless of ethnicity, there is not just English people in England, and there are plenty of places where English is hardly if ever used. The point is that to avoid future disagreements etc over the official language, we need to have English approved as the official language in the new settlement, or another language if that be the choice.

And the point about honour killings - its to prove a point. I would fully expect such a proposal to be rejected, but one never knows - and whats important is that we have an approval or disapproval in the new settlement so that the situation is clear for all.

As for my tit job, I feel it were better to enlarge my own than to make one of you, so I'll leave it at that.

E




NorthernGent -> RE: Multiculturalim is dangurous? (11/29/2007 3:55:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Hi NG

Yes - I realise we maybe cant get everyone to take part at this time in our democratic processes. This is why we need to reform our democratic processes urgently as part of a new settlement.

But, this is a wipe the slate clean and start again kinda thing. Only complete and utter fools would not participate, surely? And if they dont participate then they have no business whatsoever in wanting to affect things later or disobey the decisions reached.

If you read what I wrote by the way, I did not say that we should ask for rules, but put rules to the test of approval or disapproval. A simple tick the box exercise, yes or no, a) b) c) sort of affair.

You say the English speak English - and here you are tying yourself into the argument about who is English that you appear to wish to avoid. The fact is, regardless of ethnicity, there is not just English people in England, and there are plenty of places where English is hardly if ever used. The point is that to avoid future disagreements etc over the official language, we need to have English approved as the official language in the new settlement, or another language if that be the choice.

And the point about honour killings - its to prove a point. I would fully expect such a proposal to be rejected, but one never knows - and whats important is that we have an approval or disapproval in the new settlement so that the situation is clear for all.

As for my tit job, I feel it were better to enlarge my own than to make one of you, so I'll leave it at that.

E


Regarding the tits, the Mods have just knocked at my door, so we'll have to let this tit-for-tat cycle of tit nonsense lie.

Right, let's see.....

1) You want some new rules.
2) You want the people to decide in a democratic fashion.

This is already in place, i.e. the ballot box, and the overwhelming consensus is that we adopt a live and let live attitude.




seeksfemslave -> RE: Multiculturalim is dangurous? (11/29/2007 4:07:38 PM)

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NG
This is already in place, i.e. the ballot box, and the overwhelming consensus is that we adopt a live and let live attitude
.
NG do you really believe this to be true ? 

By the way see how trusting I am I looked at LadyE's profile to see if she had reported having a titt job.

I'm thinking about a nose job




LadyEllen -> RE: Multiculturalim is dangurous? (11/29/2007 4:07:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent
Regarding the tits, the Mods have just knocked at my door, so we'll have to let this tit-for-tat cycle of tit nonsense lie.

Right, let's see.....

1) You want some new rules.
2) You want the people to decide in a democratic fashion.

This is already in place, i.e. the ballot box, and the overwhelming consensus is that we adopt a live and let live attitude.


Glad to hear the Mods are keeping abreast of things and titening up on such comments.

The problem with the existing system to which you allude is, that the democratic system is not working as we have it now - in fact it disenfranchises the people in two ways; first by disregarding majority opinion because one party comes out ahead of the others but with a minority of the vote, and secondly arising from that by discouraging participation in the first place. Truly, in many safe seats a vote for any other party is a waste of time, so why bother?

The democratic system as we have it now is part of the old settlement which worked at one point in time but is no longer suitable. We need a total reform of the whole way our nation is defined and organised and administered. In that light, I dont see what your objections could be, since the monarchy as head of state would be up for approval / disapproval too under a new settlement and this is one of your pet causes.

I'm afraid live and let live is not something we can do, unless we sort out the problems we have. In fact in the context you seem to use it, it infers to me that you dont see any problem at all with the way things are, which to me indicates that you dont really see whats happening around us and totally undermines your views on the monarchy to boot.

E




Politesub53 -> RE: Multiculturalim is dangurous? (11/29/2007 4:10:09 PM)

Hi Stella, well Gaddafi maybe didnt declare war, but he funded a fair bit of terror. As for Kuwait, Saddam would have stayed if there handt been an invasion to force him out. I`m also not sure about Labour causing less unemployment than Thatcher, dont you remember that she got in using the slogan " labour isnt working" ?  I am not sure what you want to know about Enigma, i know the machines for breaking the German codes were stolen by the Poles and passed onto England. I have also acknowledged the debt we owe Polish airman and soldiers in WW2 but dont ask me which thread it was on.




LadyEllen -> RE: Multiculturalim is dangurous? (11/29/2007 4:17:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave
By the way see how trusting I am I looked at LadyE's profile to see if she had reported having a titt job.

I'm thinking about a nose job


For the purposes of clarification, I'm booked for 16th January to arrange an increase in the levels of waste in the EU; this on the opinion of a male acquaintance who informs me that any more than a handful is a waste.

I trust that Seeks interest in a nose job has no relation to the increased depth of cleavage I should have available in future.

E




seeksfemslave -> RE: Multiculturalim is dangurous? (11/29/2007 4:19:33 PM)

Politesub: I dont know what Stella "wants" concerning Enigma either but she is a playwrite and she wants a subsidy as a consequence. She said that in her "I am going to emigrate" post lol

Hope that helps.




seeksfemslave -> RE: Multiculturalim is dangurous? (11/29/2007 4:28:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen
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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave
By the way see how trusting I am I looked at LadyE's profile to see if she had reported having a titt job.
I'm thinking about a nose job


For the purposes of clarification, I'm booked for 16th January to arrange an increase in the levels of waste in the EU; this on the opinion of a male acquaintance who informs me that any more than a handful is a waste.

I trust that Seeks interest in a nose job has no relation to the increased depth of cleavage I should have available in future.E


Good luck LadyE. Bigger up to a point is better.
I am serious about my nose job . I have been waiting for about 3 months for a minor nasal op. I was going to ask about it then.
Its not impossible I have dropped off the NHS's radar.




Sanity -> RE: Multiculturalim is dangurous? (11/29/2007 5:34:54 PM)

That's debatable, thompson. Why don't you start a new thread on early American history and see if anyone bites


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Sanity:
I am sorry...you were not aware that the U.S. had invaded Mexico and took half of their country?  It was in all the history books.  How could you have missed it?
thompson




kdsub -> RE: Multiculturalim is dangurous? (11/29/2007 5:51:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Yes, but some of us actually know what we're talking about.  Have you been to Singapore?  Have you ever even talked to someone from Singapore?  Did you see the sign in four languages?  (That's called "quadrilingual," for those of you without the benefit of a multi-cultural education.)

Or how about Switzerland?  Are you going to find a link telling me that Switzerland doesn't have four languages either?  (Hint: They're French, German, Italian, and Romansh.  Yes, Romansh.)

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

We can all find links



Lordandmaster...I'm not even sure what we are arguing about... I have never been there... you have OK… I believe you when you say they speak all those languages. I never said they didn’t…I only said there SHOULD be a common language spoken to reduce racism. That seems to be the case in Singapore… they have an official language. You brought up Singapore not me…I think a common language in any country would lessen racism

In America I said a common language should be English…I did not say they could not speak Spanish… Hebrew… Farsi…or any other spoken word. Its just that most people in the US now speak English so it would be the easiest to make the official language.

I really don’t know where we disagree or what you are trying to tell me.

Butch




Gwynvyd -> RE: Multiculturalim is dangurous? (11/29/2007 6:07:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

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gwynvyd
Actually I am quite involved in getting better wages for Migrant workers. ( that is why i know they are paid $2 an hour to pick tomatos. ) I live in Florida. We have a huge migrant worker population. There simply are not thousands and thousands of average Americans willing to work out in the heat 95+ F and 90% humidity for $2 bending over and breaking their backs. Hell not even for minimum wage.


The question to ask is why the Florida legislature allows such low paying, possibly illegal, working conditions to exist. NO?
I sense you are emotionally committed to the problem but if you "fly off" on an emotional bender you will achieve very little IMO.



Florida allows it because the Citrus and Sugar lobby are the big boys here. It is our bread and butter besides the tourists. Hell the US Sugar Co. Drained the Evergaldes! Wrecked the whole eco system for thier perfect plots of land. They had high power lobbists pumping the boys in Tallahassee. ( I know a good friend of mine was a lobbist )

I am a passionate person... in my home life, in business, and gods knows in human rights and politics. Passionate does not qualify as an emotional bender. Every one in my company would be wrecks.. and the whole company would go down. LOL Passionate is one of our Keystones. Gods I love my company.

Gwyn,
That Go-getter passionate, type A person who is in the front of the crowd and always stands up and speaks first. *smiles*  




Gwynvyd -> RE: Multiculturalim is dangurous? (11/29/2007 6:39:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GoddessMine

I heartedly disagree. Multiculturalism has value and worth for every community. Many studies have demonstrated that everybody, especially white students, benefitted academically and socially when interacting with students from various backgrounds.

This article is a little old, but still pertinent: http://www.diversityweb.org/Digest/W97/research.html

For Me, I'd really flounder if I had to live in any kind of mono-town.
And biatch, I'M multicultural and god knows I've contributed so much awesomeness to this board.

Love,
GM


Yeppers.. Diversity is important.. and it is about more then just someones language, or skin tone.

If I had to have all white friends I think I would die. Or all black, or all hispanic, or all what ever. I like that I have business partners and friends that are a mix of everything.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiculturalism

Gwyn




Lordandmaster -> RE: Multiculturalim is dangurous? (11/29/2007 8:18:01 PM)

What I am trying to explain is that Singapore is not a good example of a country with a single language.  The official language is Malay because Singapore was originally part of Malaysia, but the other three languages have national status and signs are written in all four languages all over the city.

I'm also trying to explain that Singapore works just fine even though it has four national languages.  Singapore has problems, but multiculturalism isn't one of them.  Like Switzerland, Finland, Ireland, Malta, New Zealand, Peru, the Philippines, and all kinds of other perfectly happy nations, it defies your assertion that all countries should have one national language.  That's what started all this.

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Lordandmaster...I'm not even sure what we are arguing about... I have never been there... you have OK… I believe you when you say they speak all those languages. I never said they didn’t…I only said there SHOULD be a common language spoken to reduce racism. That seems to be the case in Singapore… they have an official language. You brought up Singapore not me…I think a common language in any country would lessen racism

In America I said a common language should be English…I did not say they could not speak Spanish… Hebrew… Farsi…or any other spoken word. Its just that most people in the US now speak English so it would be the easiest to make the official language.

I really don’t know where we disagree or what you are trying to tell me.




kdsub -> RE: Multiculturalim is dangurous? (11/29/2007 9:06:43 PM)

Lordandmaster...I see what you are saying...but I ran a quick search on racism in Singapore and got many hits...I think there are problems there as well... it may have something to do with not understanding each other...run the search. Could be many other reasons I don’t know.

If not directly responsible then I still think it would help if they could understand each other fluently when trying to settle differences.

Again you brought up Singapore but I do understand you are saying there are multilingual states in the world without racism. I am saying …I’m not so sure of that… it is just one more reason for racism and it would not hurt to remove it.

Setting a language for citizenship is not unreasonable to me. Even if rudimentary and oral...but at least enough to communicate.

Remember it is just an opinion…but I don’t think it uninformed or unreasonable.


Butch




EPGAH -> RE: Multiculturalim is dangurous? (11/29/2007 9:12:17 PM)

Are you implying that a common language can be a great unifying factor, and different languages simply divide and confuse, a la the Tower of Babel?[;)]




thompsonx -> RE: Multiculturalim is dangurous? (11/29/2007 9:25:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

quote:

NG
This is already in place, i.e. the ballot box, and the overwhelming consensus is that we adopt a live and let live attitude
.
NG do you really believe this to be true ? 

By the way see how trusting I am I looked at LadyE's profile to see if she had reported having a titt job.

I'm thinking about a nose job

Seeks:
Lady E is going to get a beuwb job.
You are going to get a nose job.
Me...I think I will go get a blow job.[;)]
thompson




thompsonx -> RE: Multiculturalim is dangurous? (11/29/2007 9:33:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

quote:

slaveboyforyou:
As long as you base your view of reality on a movie then you will always view reality as such.
thompson


I never said I base my view of reality on a movie.  I think you need to lighten up, old man.  I don't see anything unrealistic about clogged cities and huge urban slums being the result of unchecked immigration.  

slaveboyforyou:
Is it possible that there could be other causes for clogged cities and huge urban slums besides unchecked immigration?
thompson




seeksfemslave -> RE: Multiculturalim is dangurous? (11/30/2007 7:54:00 AM)

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Today, it is not war of the conventional kind that creates mountains of corpses; it is the frictions of "diversity." The UN did a study of the period between 1989 and 1992, and found there were 82 conflicts that created more than a thousand deaths. Of this number, 79 -- no fewer than 79 out of 82 -- were the result of religious or ethnic hatred within borders. These were fights inside countries, not between them. This is how the world "celebrates diversity", with guns and knives and anything else people can lay their hands on
.

The UN too.he he he he he he he

Dont blame me
For telling the truth to you
With multi cultralism
You'll get a schism
Dont blame me.

Some deny  it, others know it
That...we can see
Its lea...ding to
A big cat...as..tro...phe.

Sung to the 30/40s song Dont Blame Me in any key that takes your fancy so long as you dont mix them up




LadyEllen -> RE: Multiculturalim is dangurous? (11/30/2007 7:57:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

Dont blame me
For telling the truth to you
With multi cultralism
You'll get a schism
Dont blame me.


I agree.

The question then becomes, how do we unify different cultures to unite us as a nation.

Assuming of course, we have dropped the "send 'em 'ome" mentality which is a non starter.

E




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