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takenbyjohnr07 -> For those of You (11/28/2007 10:39:11 AM)
who are looking for the perfectly petite (thin) woman or an adonis and will accept nothing less. Here is my sceerio for You. What if You went on line and there was no picture (pictures were not allowed). You saw a beautiful profile of a person who fit everything You are looking foe. You- E-mail each other and You click. You IM each other and You click. You talk on the phone and it's even better than You could imagine. You set up a meeting. In walks a woman or man who is not bad looking, but kind of plain and could stand to lose a few pounds. They are dressed nicely and have a wonderful warm smile. You get along wonderfully and it's just as great as it was on line. Do You continue with another meeting? Or do You decide to wait until someone better looking comes along?

heartsemerge -> RE: For those of You (11/28/2007 11:13:41 AM)
Do you still find yourself sexually attracted to this person?

toservez -> RE: For those of You (11/28/2007 11:17:55 AM)
No offense because this is like one of those moral dilemma questions but with the question being phrased as to only answer it one way. Most everyone, including me, are of course going to answer your question that looks do not matter by themselves and some will answer looks do not matter as much and list every the important things to them. To expand on your scenario it would also be a trust issue. Did they describe themselves so differently that it was a fraudulent representation of themselves that it could destroy trust. I had a friend who communicated with a person and when they went to meet him found out he was a paraplegic and when she got pissed for the obvious misleading he pulled what you are trying to go after in your scenario. Looks count for most people whether they will admit it or not. It just that looks are not based on a scale of 1 to 10 and setting a goal of a number and above. Looks for most is either the person is attractive to them or not and even this has major variables of all the other qualities. Looks are also subjective. I do not like Adonis type men and find gray hair and a little belly to be very attractive. If looks were all that counts or some near impossible or unrealistic preference that will mean a lifetime of being alone then that is a problem.

BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: For those of You (11/28/2007 11:19:12 AM)
I would continue to develop this and see what happens,it has happen to me..After all great slaves often come in all sizes and colors...

SmokingGun82 -> RE: For those of You (11/28/2007 11:21:10 AM)
As much as I'd love to say "Of course" and say looks don't matter at all, I can't. I'm not looking for perfection- but if I'm not physically attracted to someone, I just can't see it going anywhere. That doesn't mean I wouldn't want to keep them as a friend, or that I wouldn't necessarily be attracted to them- there are too many variables for me to say "Definitely yes" or "Definitely no." I can find something attractive in most people, so I the odds are rather good I'd find something... but if there's no sexual chemistry, it's not working.

takenbyjohnr07 -> RE: For those of You (11/28/2007 11:23:51 AM)
Hi! The post was directed "only" to people who base things on looks and are only looking for attractive people. And yes to the second question All the feelings are still as strong as they were on line.

takenbyjohnr07 -> RE:Bounty Hunter (11/28/2007 11:25:34 AM)
i loved Your post, Sir. Thanks!

toservez -> RE: For those of You (11/28/2007 11:27:15 AM)
quote: Hi! The post was directed "only" to people who base things on looks and are only looking for attractive people. And do you actually think anyone is going to say they are only or primarily basing things on looks outside of maybe people looking for just casual situations?

BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: For those of You (11/28/2007 11:28:46 AM)
Again would one accept the perfect slave with a little extra padding and not quiet the raving beauty,rather then the pretty one with little knowledge in how to serve you...ITS a hard call.I myself have the certain look that flips my switch as does Diane...With this said I wouldn't pass up the perfect fit.. fat or other wise.....

juliaoceania -> RE: For those of You (11/28/2007 11:43:32 AM)
I know this is in the masters forum, but the answer to whether or not I would want to be pursued by someone under these circumstances is "yes", as long as they did not misrepresent themselves... I dislike it when people lie about what they look like, and it is a turn off. I have had this happen to me a few times.

takenbyjohnr07 -> RE:toserve (11/28/2007 11:44:37 AM)
Yes i do. i have unfortunately known people like that. i also know of women who will not even date a man before they know what kind of car he drives and how much money he earns. Usually people who are arrogant enough to do things like that see nothing wrong with it and have no problem admitting it.

takenbyjohnr07 -> RE: RE:toserve (11/28/2007 11:45:58 AM)
No. they did not misrepresent themselves. sorry i forgot to add that. :)

IrishMist -> RE: For those of You (11/28/2007 11:47:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: takenbyjohnr07 who are looking for the perfectly petite (thin) woman or an adonis and will accept nothing less. Here is my sceerio for You. What if You went on line and there was no picture (pictures were not allowed). You saw a beautiful profile of a person who fit everything You are looking foe. You- E-mail each other and You click. You IM each other and You click. You talk on the phone and it's even better than You could imagine. You set up a meeting. In walks a woman or man who is not bad looking, but kind of plain and could stand to lose a few pounds. They are dressed nicely and have a wonderful warm smile. You get along wonderfully and it's just as great as it was on line. Do You continue with another meeting? Or do You decide to wait until someone better looking comes along? What a silly question. Natually, myself being myself...I wait for someone better to come along [8\|]

juliaoceania -> RE: For those of You (11/28/2007 11:49:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: IrishMist quote: ORIGINAL: takenbyjohnr07 who are looking for the perfectly petite (thin) woman or an adonis and will accept nothing less. Here is my sceerio for You. What if You went on line and there was no picture (pictures were not allowed). You saw a beautiful profile of a person who fit everything You are looking foe. You- E-mail each other and You click. You IM each other and You click. You talk on the phone and it's even better than You could imagine. You set up a meeting. In walks a woman or man who is not bad looking, but kind of plain and could stand to lose a few pounds. They are dressed nicely and have a wonderful warm smile. You get along wonderfully and it's just as great as it was on line. Do You continue with another meeting? Or do You decide to wait until someone better looking comes along? What a silly question. Natually, myself being myself...I wait for someone better to come along [8\|] LMAO[:D]

LadyPact -> RE: For those of You (11/28/2007 12:05:36 PM)
I'm sorry to sound so harsh, but this sounds like one of those 'the physical form isn't important' posts. Like it or not, if I don't have the physical chemistry with someone, it isn't worth My time. They may be the greatest person in the world, but if there's no attraction there, it simply isn't going to work out. For a very long time, one of My mottos has been 'not everyone is for everyone one else'. That's true in the physical, as well as mental, emotional, and spiritual catagories. I'm not physically perfect, and I don't expect anyone else to be...... but there does have to be a certain amount of appeal.

charlotte12 -> RE: For those of You (11/28/2007 12:21:11 PM)
Perhaps Body Modification is a kink that you could share? Not to sound harsh but it seems that you are clearly capable of valuing other qualities besides physical appearances. If you find yourself attracted to this person and they to you there might be some fun in a "make-over." I have been slowly changing my image to fit my Master's desires. This walks a very fine line though because asking a woman to change her appearance if she is not already confident and happy in who she is can be devastating. So i would answer that it depends not only on you but on the woman in question. If you would like her to lose a few pounds or do her hair differently but find her otherwise desirable then it will depend on whether this is something that can be done in a healthy manner and that she would find exciting. I am not going to speculate on "most women" or "some women" but say simply from my own personal experience i see quite a transformation in myself when i dress to his specifications. I didn't know i could be sexy like that. I imagine many will not agree with my comments (i wouldn't either if i hadn't found them to be true of myself.) People who "feel" sexy "generally "are" sexy as a result. If i were to feel that Master was disgusted with me and needed to change me in order to be attracted to me i would not be happy. As it is i enjoy exploring ways to make myself more attractive for him. *edited to add that i forgot i was in the "Ask a Master" section. Hope my comments might help anyway.

wildnbeautiful -> RE: For those of You (11/28/2007 12:32:00 PM)
well hmm i have to say two things beauty comes from within and beauty is in the eye of the beholder heh and my dad always told me more cusion for da pushing - lmao- shrugs just my opinion a bbw and proud of it!

Stephann -> RE: For those of You (11/28/2007 3:19:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: takenbyjohnr07 who are looking for the perfectly petite (thin) woman or an adonis and will accept nothing less. Here is my sceerio for You. What if You went on line and there was no picture (pictures were not allowed). You saw a beautiful profile of a person who fit everything You are looking foe. You- E-mail each other and You click. You IM each other and You click. You talk on the phone and it's even better than You could imagine. You set up a meeting. In walks a woman or man who is not bad looking, but kind of plain and could stand to lose a few pounds. They are dressed nicely and have a wonderful warm smile. You get along wonderfully and it's just as great as it was on line. Do You continue with another meeting? Or do You decide to wait until someone better looking comes along? I'll echo charlottes comments (this is something she and I have discussed at length, actually.) I'd continue with this woman, and invest the time and effort to gradually mold her to better suit my taste. I can only assume that if 'all else is perfect' than she'd be as enthusiastic about self-improvement as I am. I would make it very clear that it wasn't because I didn't enjoy her for who she is; and that it would be a committment on both of our part, to make her into someone even more exceptional than she already was. I think that's a powerful dynamic for many relationships; that combined, we become much better people than we were to begin with. Thus, looks really just does deal with polishing the shell; literally improving her clothing, makeup, diet and exercise routine, and working to instill a much stronger degree of self-confidence. I want her to look in the mirror, and have her breath taken away at how beautiful she is, and can be. This doesn't mean making her into someone she is not; it means making her into the best person she can be. Stephan

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: For those of You (11/28/2007 4:20:32 PM)
If they fit for me, then I keep them. If they don't fit, I say no thanks. I reserve the right to be as irrational, shallow, pointless and picky about whatever criteria I choose at whatever particular moment I make my decision. I also accept responsibility for the consequences of those choices.

laurell3 -> RE: For those of You (11/28/2007 4:48:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: takenbyjohnr07 Hi! The post was directed "only" to people who base things on looks and are only looking for attractive people. And yes to the second question All the feelings are still as strong as they were on line. You are assuming "attractive people" means good looking stereotypical skinny, muscular, etc. What attracts us to people is not always just that. Personality, quirks, smile and many other things can be the thing that undoes us as well. However, it is not really unacceptable to say if one doesn't find someone physically attractive they won't date them, that's just life and chemistry, it's not personal and it's not necessarily superficial. I do agree however that to an extent the money thing you mentioned could be.

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