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RE: ruined - 11/28/2007 8:15:44 PM   
MercTech


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The original poster does have a little but of a point if he has seen some of the things I have.  I still shake my head when I see round scars on lily white flesh from old cigarette burns.  A very attractive lady in southern Florida I knew had had the last joint of each little finger removed as a punishment.

I just don't find leaving scars to be a good thing I guess.

Stefan

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RE: ruined - 11/28/2007 8:22:31 PM   
juliaoceania


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A very attractive lady in southern Florida I knew had had the last joint of each little finger removed as a punishment.



Would it be ok to do this to an ugly person? Or is it only obscene to disfigure and maim pretty people? And how was this done? Surgery or was it an at home do-it-yourself sort of thing?

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RE: ruined - 11/28/2007 8:23:46 PM   
hisannabelle


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Status: offline 		greetings materpain,

i probably fall into the "unattractive" set, and lord knows i signed on for bruises and permanent markings as well (because i love them!) but i don't consider myself ruined. hell, i was the one begging for it. if i have to be ruined, at least i'll be happy. and assuming we part ways or my master passes and i someday end up with someone else...i'd rather have someone who values me for more than just the way i look, and who would respect my current master (as i do), at least enough to not accuse him of "ruining" me.

briefly taking a dip in the shallow end of the dream pool,
annabelle.


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RE: ruined - 11/30/2007 11:14:01 AM   
materpain


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Status: offline 		i'd really like to thank stefan at least someone took it in the spirit in which it was intended. My words may not have been chosen well and i really don't give a damn if i capitalize i or not i have more to consume my time with then the bastardization of the english language to show my place in life. I show my stature by working hard and being true to those i come in contact with . Honestly i have met people from this site before this post that were just horrible people or who had no personality whatsoever it has been the majority of the people i've met recently and i can't possibly find those people attractive it isn't just about looks and even as my likes are more extreme then a lot of you may consider kosher I appreciate a woman who attractive inside and out and i enjoy looking at them and admiring them and i appreciate them giving their very existence to me and serving me in any way requested of them but recently things like that which stefan mentioned and people in the bdsm community performing female circumsitions and at home surgeries with the sole intent to modify their slave and seriously risk their slaves well being are becoming much more common place that's what i mean when i say why are we ruining our slaves. it just seems to me that we've begun to take for granted their servitude and that this thought that they are our property so to speak may be the most dangerous thing we've ever thought because property is also ours to dispose of, furthermore i was always under the impression that in return for a slaves good services we owed them in return protection love and caring this is not a one way street. Maybe i am to old fashioned for this site but i have owned my fair share of slaves and not once have i ever felt as some of you obviously do.

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RE: ruined - 11/30/2007 11:24:34 AM   
charlotte12


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

I feel pretty
Oh so pretty
I feel pretty and witty and gay
And I pity
Any girl who isn't me today
I feel charming
Oh so charming
It's alarming how charming I feel
And so pretty
That I hardly can believe I'm real
See the pretty girl in that mirror there?
Who can that attractive girl be?
Such a pretty face
Such a pretty dress
Such a pretty smile
Such a pretty me!
I feel stunning
And entrancing
Feel like running
And dancing for joy
For I'm loved
By a pretty wonderful boy
GIRLS
Have you met my good friend Maria
The craziest girl on the block?
You'll know her the minute you see her
She's the one who is in an advanced state of shock
She thinks she's in love
She thinks she's in Spain
She isn't in love
She's merely insane
It must be the heat
Or some rare disease
Or too much to eat
Or maybe it's fleas
Keep away from her
Send for Chino
This is not the Maria we know
Modest and pure
Polite and refined
Well-bred and mature
And out of her mind!
Miss America, Miss America, speech!
Miss America, bravo, speech!
MARIA
I feel pretty
Oh so pretty
That the city should give me its key
A committee
Should be organized to honour me
I feel dizzy
I feel sunny
I feel fizzy and funny and fine
And so pretty
Miss America can just resign
See the pretty girl in that mirror there
(What mirror, where?)
Who can that attractive girl be?
(Which, what, where, whom?)
Such a pretty face
Such a pretty dress
Such a pretty smile
Such a pretty me!

I feel stunning
And entrancing
Feel like running and dancing for joy
For I'm loved
By a pretty wonderful boy



West Side Master



You just brought the biggest smile to my face that has been on it all day. Thank you

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RE: ruined - 11/30/2007 11:29:27 AM   
laurell3


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ORIGINAL: materpain

i'd really like to thank stefan at least someone took it in the spirit in which it was intended. My words may not have been chosen well and i really don't give a damn if i capitalize i or not i have more to consume my time with then the bastardization of the english language to show my place in life. I show my stature by working hard and being true to those i come in contact with . Honestly i have met people from this site before this post that were just horrible people or who had no personality whatsoever it has been the majority of the people i've met recently and i can't possibly find those people attractive it isn't just about looks and even as my likes are more extreme then a lot of you may consider kosher I appreciate a woman who attractive inside and out and i enjoy looking at them and admiring them and i appreciate them giving their very existence to me and serving me in any way requested of them but recently things like that which stefan mentioned and people in the bdsm community performing female circumsitions and at home surgeries with the sole intent to modify their slave and seriously risk their slaves well being are becoming much more common place that's what i mean when i say why are we ruining our slaves. it just seems to me that we've begun to take for granted their servitude and that this thought that they are our property so to speak may be the most dangerous thing we've ever thought because property is also ours to dispose of, furthermore i was always under the impression that in return for a slaves good services we owed them in return protection love and caring this is not a one way street. Maybe i am to old fashioned for this site but i have owned my fair share of slaves and not once have i ever felt as some of you obviously do.


OP if one thing about CM is true, if you ask a silly question you get a silly answer.  Your original question was not worded well and implied that somehow unattractive women deserve less than attractive ones.  Obviously that was not your intent as shown here.  However, keep in mind, no one here knows you and words are all we have.  You're not too old-fashioned.  You're posts, thoughts and comments are of course welcome, like everyone else's.  However, keep in mind, many won't share your opinion and snark/criticism/irony/humor always flows rather freely here.

good luck!

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RE: ruined - 11/30/2007 12:02:16 PM   
Mercnbeth


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Maybe i am to old fashioned for this site but i have owned my fair share of slaves and not once have i ever felt as some of you obviously do.


I was hanging on your every word. But you lost all credibility by the last sentence of your post, particularly the underlined and highlighted part. You should consider that perhaps the superficiality of your vision of "beauty" is a cause for your "fair share" being in the past? Your use of past tense is understandable. You've had three pages of mirrors held up reflecting back the reason. Failure isn't necessarily a bad thing; however consistency in failure indicates the problem isn't in the "ruined" slaves on this or any other site.

quote:

why take such a work of beauty and ruin her body for others to look at?
Your vision is 'THE' vision of a "work of beauty"? And that vision is "ruined" when marked?

Marks resulting from a consensual relationship aren't a requirement; neither are tattoos and/or other permanent body modifications. However, the display of marks by people whose activities do include that level of interaction aren't considered by them blemishes. They don't indicate "ruin". For many they indicate the beauty that IS the relationship and are worn and sometimes displayed proudly.

As beautiful and representative of the image you convey in your picture, and you sporting that beard and suspenders ARE a vision of beauty, can you agree that perhaps some viewing it think the hands on hips stance isn't their image of dominance and "ruins" you for consideration? I know - hard to believe huh? Try considering that perspective next time you announce that the pool of people you just dove into with the hopes of making contact is polluted with "ruined" individuals.

Good luck! And if that's not a Halloween costume - Thanks for your service!

< Message edited by Mercnbeth -- 11/30/2007 12:15:35 PM >

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RE: ruined - 11/30/2007 12:04:22 PM   
mnottertail


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RE: ruined - 11/30/2007 12:11:07 PM   
Jeffff


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Jeff

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RE: ruined - 11/30/2007 12:27:41 PM   
Kana


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ORIGINAL: materpain

i'd really like to thank stefan at least someone took it in the spirit in which it was intended. My words may not have been chosen well and i really don't give a damn if i capitalize i or not i have more to consume my time with then the bastardization of the english language to show my place in life. I show my stature by working hard and being true to those i come in contact with . Honestly i have met people from this site before this post that were just horrible people or who had no personality whatsoever it has been the majority of the people i've met recently and i can't possibly find those people attractive it isn't just about looks and even as my likes are more extreme then a lot of you may consider kosher I appreciate a woman who attractive inside and out and i enjoy looking at them and admiring them and i appreciate them giving their very existence to me and serving me in any way requested of them but recently things like that which stefan mentioned and people in the bdsm community performing female circumsitions and at home surgeries with the sole intent to modify their slave and seriously risk their slaves well being are becoming much more common place that's what i mean when i say why are we ruining our slaves. it just seems to me that we've begun to take for granted their servitude and that this thought that they are our property so to speak may be the most dangerous thing we've ever thought because property is also ours to dispose of, furthermore i was always under the impression that in return for a slaves good services we owed them in return protection love and caring this is not a one way street. Maybe i am to old fashioned for this site but i have owned my fair share of slaves and not once have i ever felt as some of you obviously do.



            Dude speak for your self. You want to say I, instead of we, and spout off any nonsense that comes to mind, more power to you, it’s a free country. Once you say we that includes me and I will step on you hard. Don’t throw me any shit about taking servitude for granted. Don’t count me in your little bag of tricks, Speak for you about you by you. Don’t get on any soapboxes and say squat about things you don’t know about, which means me.Questions?

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RE: ruined - 11/30/2007 12:33:05 PM   
peppermint


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Status: offline 		Please excuse me.  You are 25 years old and in your many years of experience you have noticed that more slaves are being physically mutilated presently than in the past??!!   Perhaps you were just too busy growing up to notice what was happening.  May i also suggest that at the ripe old age of 25, you don't brag about having owned your "fair share of slaves."  Saying this only makes me wonder if you take ownership way too soon before getting to know the slave....hence the relationships were not destined for longer than a few months.  Bragging about your past relationships that didn't work out is just a bit tacky. 

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RE: ruined - 11/30/2007 12:36:34 PM   
Jeffff


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RE: ruined - 11/30/2007 12:50:42 PM   
KyttynTheMynx


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ORIGINAL: SirJohnMandevill

The guy criticizes the ladies on the site for being unattractive, yet you could stick dough on his face and make gorilla cookies.* The noive!

Les (Illegitimate son of Alice in Womderland and Alice Cooper


Am I the only one that could barely stifle any kinda giggling when this was read?


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RE: ruined - 11/30/2007 12:54:04 PM   
jennylynnoh


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quote:

ORIGINAL: materpain

i'd really like to thank stefan at least someone took it in the spirit in which it was intended. My words may not have been chosen well and i really don't give a damn if i capitalize i or not i have more to consume my time with then the bastardization of the english language to show my place in life. I show my stature by working hard and being true to those i come in contact with . Honestly i have met people from this site before this post that were just horrible people or who had no personality whatsoever it has been the majority of the people i've met recently and i can't possibly find those people attractive it isn't just about looks and even as my likes are more extreme then a lot of you may consider kosher I appreciate a woman who attractive inside and out and i enjoy looking at them and admiring them and i appreciate them giving their very existence to me and serving me in any way requested of them but recently things like that which stefan mentioned and people in the bdsm community performing female circumsitions and at home surgeries with the sole intent to modify their slave and seriously risk their slaves well being are becoming much more common place that's what i mean when i say why are we ruining our slaves. it just seems to me that we've begun to take for granted their servitude and that this thought that they are our property so to speak may be the most dangerous thing we've ever thought because property is also ours to dispose of, furthermore i was always under the impression that in return for a slaves good services we owed them in return protection love and caring this is not a one way street. Maybe i am to old fashioned for this site but i have owned my fair share of slaves and not once have i ever felt as some of you obviously do.

That brought back memories of reading Faulker's "As I Lay Dying" in high school....

*flashbacks to 'Nam*

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RE: ruined - 11/30/2007 12:59:59 PM   
Kirren


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ORIGINAL: peppermint

Please excuse me.  You are 25 years old and in your many years of experience you have noticed that more slaves are being physically mutilated presently than in the past??!!   Perhaps you were just too busy growing up to notice what was happening.  May i also suggest that at the ripe old age of 25, you don't brag about having owned your "fair share of slaves." 


Amen to that peppermint.

All I can say to any of this, is that at 25 most men only know a shallow superficiality that many of us can not fathom. I did say most, so before you get your boxers in a wad boys, know that I was making reference to the genius that is the OP here.

In all honesty, what right do you, Oh great illustrious, all knowing, all wise and super great OP have to assume that a person is "unattractive" based off of marks given to them either by their owner, or by life in general? I know SEVERAL girls and boys that wear the marks of their Owners proudly. And to the Owner, and the slave those marks are the significant sign of giving of ones body and mind to a point that the forego the idea of pain, and endure what the Owner wishes and do not see it as ruination, but as a mark of a BEAUTIFUL moment in their lives. So who the hell do you think you are to come along, with your what...2-5 years of experience and slam them for that moment? To take that away from them? To mar that, or in fact, RUIN it for them? Those marks bear the memory of a very intense and loving ( I certainly cant say I ever gave any one any kind of mark that I didnt care about) moment in a persons life. An experience that strikes the soul and binds the heart of the person forever.

Your judgemental ideas, and your superficial out look will not take you far in this life style, at least not that I have seen anyway.

Needless to say, I am sure you will make yet another backpeddling statement about how your words just came out wrong, but I think the intent is clear. You came expecting a meat market of half dressed big tittied perfect 10 nymphos, and what you got were REAL women, living this life style in REAL time, not some dynamic invention of what it should be in your misguided little world.

So sorry to disillusion you.

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RE: ruined - 11/30/2007 1:06:32 PM   
peppermint


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I have had over 21,000 women


LMAO!!!  Let's see the OP top that!!!

I'm not sure if even Wilt the Stilt had time for that many...AND...to still practice his bball skills.  Or, maybe he was a ''Wham, bam, thank you Ma'am" kinda guy. 

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RE: ruined - 11/30/2007 1:10:03 PM   
CalifChick


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ORIGINAL: Kirren

You came expecting a meat market of half dressed big tittied perfect 10 nymphos


Well HELLS BELLS!!!!  That's what I came for!!!

Cali

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RE: ruined - 11/30/2007 1:12:35 PM   
juliaoceania


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Honestly i have met people from this site before this post that were just horrible people or who had no personality whatsoever it has been the majority of the people i've met recently and i can't possibly find those people attractive it isn't just about looks


You know, I find that boring people are often bored. People lacking their own personality often cannot spot personality in others... wherever you go, there you are.

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RE: ruined - 11/30/2007 1:30:10 PM   
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thankyou for cheering up my friday afternoon
jefffff after 21,000 women, wilt would be a good name
I have nothing for the OP, but the rest of you tickled my funny bone
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RE: ruined - 11/30/2007 1:39:16 PM   
Jeffff


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