RE: How Much Control Does A Dominant Really Have? (Full Version)

All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Ask a Mistress



Message


Gwynvyd -> RE: How Much Control Does A Dominant Really Have? (11/28/2007 7:49:21 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sammiebabygirl

One day, Ms. Gwyn, I will show you my T.I.T.S. [sm=evil.gif]

jen


*chuckles*

Gwyn




Gwynvyd -> RE: How Much Control Does A Dominant Really Have? (11/28/2007 7:55:19 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SunNMoon

quote:

ORIGINAL: rubberpet

I feel that no matter how dominant someone is, the sub is ultimately in control.  It is up to the sub whether they choose to obey or not.  If the sub chooses not to obey his/her dominant, the dominant ultimately has no control.  The sub who chooses to obey gives up control to the dominant of their own free will.  It is simply a matter of obedience.  The sub won't do anything he/she doesn't want to do.  In other words, the dominant only has the amount of control that the sub allows.

Just my opinion.


I very much agree with RubberPet. That it is the free will of the sub that with each action they are giving up control. Without there choice the dom is powerless, they have no control over the sub.



*nods* Dom/me, sub... vanilla or not. It does not matter. If someone does not wish to change they simply wont. However if they do wish to change or grow having a Dom/me there to help guide and focus them is helpful to some subs.

Just like I love to have a personal trainer some times helping me.. and motivating me to push myself farther. Hell a lot of people from where I come from have "life coaches" *chuckles*

Some times we need that lil cheerleader on the sidelines rooting for us.. and our success. Though women tend to want someone to listen and comiserate.. not come in and take over. *smiles*

Gwyn




kc692 -> RE: How Much Control Does A Dominant Really Have? (11/28/2007 7:55:44 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Machts

I can control the hunger she has for what I offer her.

And deep hunger goes a long way towards sating obedience.

I have found this as a simplicity.......women I have known felt thier submission more in thier bellies-than in thier heads. You have to know what to feed.


Amazing that someone can manage to try to sound so educated and literate while hiding behind this nick with no profile to be found.  I would also hope that while making such vain attempt to be verbiose, spelling would be checked.  Amazing, your posts under your other nicks usually make for a much better read.




kc692 -> RE: How Much Control Does A Dominant Really Have? (11/28/2007 8:02:31 PM)

To the OP

A physical reaction is uncontrollable and therefore, in my opinion, not a controllable behavior.  A physical reaction that intense is one I actually like to have fun with, for example see just how extreme I can make that Tourette's get!!!!![sm=tongue.gif]

Other behaviors I help control, reactions I just like to exploit!!!




Stephann -> RE: How Much Control Does A Dominant Really Have? (11/28/2007 8:51:55 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SunNMoon

quote:

ORIGINAL: rubberpet

I feel that no matter how dominant someone is, the sub is ultimately in control.  It is up to the sub whether they choose to obey or not.  If the sub chooses not to obey his/her dominant, the dominant ultimately has no control.  The sub who chooses to obey gives up control to the dominant of their own free will.  It is simply a matter of obedience.  The sub won't do anything he/she doesn't want to do.  In other words, the dominant only has the amount of control that the sub allows.

Just my opinion.


I very much agree with RubberPet. That it is the free will of the sub that with each action they are giving up control. Without there choice the dom is powerless, they have no control over the sub.



This illustrates the difference between authority transfer, and the illusion of authority transfer.

Some people actually do transfer that authority; others simply like to play pretend.

Stephan




Machts -> RE: How Much Control Does A Dominant Really Have? (11/28/2007 8:56:17 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kc692

quote:

ORIGINAL: Machts

I can control the hunger she has for what I offer her.

And deep hunger goes a long way towards sating obedience.

I have found this as a simplicity.......women I have known felt thier submission more in thier bellies-than in thier heads. You have to know what to feed.


Amazing that someone can manage to try to sound so educated and literate while hiding behind this nick with no profile to be found.  I would also hope that while making such vain attempt to be verbiose, spelling would be checked.  Amazing, your posts under your other nicks usually make for a much better read.


laughs, and how much do you expect from a guy who comes to a message board for entertainment? Especially here..Einstein?[:D]




RumpusParable -> RE: How Much Control Does A Dominant Really Have? (11/28/2007 8:57:25 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kc692

To the OP

A physical reaction is uncontrollable and therefore, in my opinion, not a controllable behavior.  A physical reaction that intense is one I actually like to have fun with, for example see just how extreme I can make that Tourette's get!!!!![sm=tongue.gif]

Other behaviors I help control, reactions I just like to exploit!!!


LOL!  This was part of my thoughts, too.  I'd get a kick out of seeing just how bad and strange it would get as I kept tickling haha.




Lashra -> RE: How Much Control Does A Dominant Really Have? (11/28/2007 9:05:09 PM)

I believe that you can attempt to modifiy behavior, however if the sub is not willing to put forth a great effort it will not be successful. Truth is this, you cannot force anyone to do anything against their will if they deadset their mind against it. So unless that person really wants to change that behavior there is nothing that a Dominant can do.

~Lashra




slavegirljoy -> RE: How Much Control Does A Dominant Really Have? (11/28/2007 9:18:11 PM)

Amen Brother Stephan!  This is, to me, the primary reason why some people simply don't believe in the possibility of TPE relationships.  When i chose to enter into a TPE relationship with my Master, i handed over to Him all rights to the decision-making power over me and my life.  i gave Him the ownership rights over me and He is the One who decides when and to what degree i can exercise any free will of my own, including when i can use the bathroom.  There is plenty that i do that i don't enjoy doing and that i would rather not do.  i do it, not because i want to but, because i do whatever my Master tells me to do.  It never enters my mind to disobey Him.  If i wasn't going to obey Him, i wouldn't have become His slave.

He had originally said that i could choose to release myself from my enslavement to Him and leave whenever i wanted.  Two nights ago, He told me that He was rescinding that option.  That made me very happy.

slave joy
Owned property of Master David

quote:

ORIGINAL: Stephann
quote:

ORIGINAL: SunNMoon
quote:

ORIGINAL: rubberpet

I feel that no matter how dominant someone is, the sub is ultimately in control.  It is up to the sub whether they choose to obey or not.  If the sub chooses not to obey his/her dominant, the dominant ultimately has no control.  The sub who chooses to obey gives up control to the dominant of their own free will.  It is simply a matter of obedience.  The sub won't do anything he/she doesn't want to do.  In other words, the dominant only has the amount of control that the sub allows.

Just my opinion.


I very much agree with RubberPet. That it is the free will of the sub that with each action they are giving up control. Without there choice the dom is powerless, they have no control over the sub.


This illustrates the difference between authority transfer, and the illusion of authority transfer.

Some people actually do transfer that authority; others simply like to play pretend.

Stephan






sammiebabygirl -> RE: How Much Control Does A Dominant Really Have? (11/28/2007 9:24:22 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: RumpusParable

LOL!  This was part of my thoughts, too.  I'd get a kick out of seeing just how bad and strange it would get as I kept tickling haha.


Oh boy!! If I ever find myself in a room with Gwyn, kc and yourself, I am in so much trouble. [:o]




chathamvahere -> RE: How Much Control Does A Dominant Really Have? (11/28/2007 9:26:47 PM)

How much control hmm?? As much as the submissive is willing to give:)




kc692 -> RE: How Much Control Does A Dominant Really Have? (11/28/2007 9:28:52 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Machts

quote:

ORIGINAL: kc692

quote:

ORIGINAL: Machts

I can control the hunger she has for what I offer her.

And deep hunger goes a long way towards sating obedience.

I have found this as a simplicity.......women I have known felt thier submission more in thier bellies-than in thier heads. You have to know what to feed.


Amazing that someone can manage to try to sound so educated and literate while hiding behind this nick with no profile to be found.  I would also hope that while making such vain attempt to be verbiose, spelling would be checked.  Amazing, your posts under your other nicks usually make for a much better read.


laughs, and how much do you expect from a guy who comes to a message board for entertainment? Especially here..Einstein?[:D]


Touche, smiles... was wondering if my other impressions of you were wrong, didnt realize this was a type of  LROD alter....secret is safe with me, lol!!!!

Disclaimer;  No I did NOT mean in any way this is LAM, it's not!! 

Hell, wouldn't want Ron or LAM to try to get that wrestling match LAM and I had scheduled a while back going again, lol!!




RumpusParable -> RE: How Much Control Does A Dominant Really Have? (11/28/2007 9:29:04 PM)

Hehehe, I'll be in the Finger Lakes Region next week....




kc692 -> RE: How Much Control Does A Dominant Really Have? (11/28/2007 9:30:16 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: RumpusParable

quote:

ORIGINAL: kc692

To the OP

A physical reaction is uncontrollable and therefore, in my opinion, not a controllable behavior.  A physical reaction that intense is one I actually like to have fun with, for example see just how extreme I can make that Tourette's get!!!!![sm=tongue.gif]

Other behaviors I help control, reactions I just like to exploit!!!


LOL!  This was part of my thoughts, too.  I'd get a kick out of seeing just how bad and strange it would get as I kept tickling haha.


It's amazing how "bendy" they can get, isn't it???[sm=banana.gif]




RumpusParable -> RE: How Much Control Does A Dominant Really Have? (11/28/2007 9:32:03 PM)

lolol!  And so pink in the face!!




kc692 -> RE: How Much Control Does A Dominant Really Have? (11/28/2007 9:35:10 PM)

Yanno, Rumpus, we are close enough we need to make plans to meet, and maybe do some co torture.....sammiebabygirl, when did you say you were planning on travelling, lol?????




RumpusParable -> RE: How Much Control Does A Dominant Really Have? (11/28/2007 9:38:22 PM)

Would definintely be up for it!  I think we'd have a lot of fun together, kc!




kc692 -> RE: How Much Control Does A Dominant Really Have? (11/28/2007 9:54:29 PM)

Well, if she doesn't come down here, or if you wind up meeting her up there, and it takes a while for her to get down here we may have to find a willing victim to hold us over!!![;)]




sammiebabygirl -> RE: How Much Control Does A Dominant Really Have? (11/28/2007 10:02:42 PM)

OMG!!! What have I started? [sm=ofcourse.gif]
 
jen




FullfigRIMaam -> RE: How Much Control Does A Dominant Really Have? (11/28/2007 10:04:41 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: RumpusParable
They're one and the same in most, and this, examples.  What is a dominant to do if you cannot find a way to control this?  Wave a magic wand?

At best, they can gag you which covers the response but doesn't stop it.

When it's something a sub can't or won't change about themselves, it comes down to compatibility... and that doesn't sound like it's an issue in this particular instance.
I agree with this...  I can think of very few things that cannot be changed if the desire to change/please is genuinely there, and there is honest effort on the sub's part.   Those things that I imagine are near to impossible to will oneself into changing, are things that I think ought to be discussed when talking compatibilities and getting to know one another.   M 




Page: <<   < prev  1 [2] 3   next >   >>

Valid CSS!




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy
3.027344E-02