Seminars to Aid Illegals to Avoid Arrest

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pinksugarsub -> Seminars to Aid Illegals to Avoid Arrest (11/29/2007 1:34:59 PM)
Contreras-Edin says 200,000 immigrants were deported from the interior of the country last year. The INS says these seminars, in which Contreras-Edin teaches both legal and illegal immigrants they have rights against search and seizure, self-incrimination and other things, are aiding illegals to continue breaking the law. What do Y/you think? Should illegals be taught what rights they enjoy to help aid them to avoid the INS? http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=16727309&ft=1&f=1 pinksugarsub

EPGAH -> RE: Seminars to Aid Illegals to Avoid Arrest (11/29/2007 1:42:08 PM)
Sounds like a great idea for a sting...Invite all the illegals to one place, then nab'em all, rather than having to hunt them down one-by-one! Since it is a seminar FOR ILLEGALS, doesn't that run afoul of a few Federal laws, mostly the ones about sedition and treason? I have to say, this is just mind-blowing, a class FOR criminals, rather than just ABOUT them!

kittinSol -> RE: Seminars to Aid Illegals to Avoid Arrest (11/29/2007 1:51:25 PM)
There we go again...

popeye1250 -> RE: Seminars to Aid Illegals to Avoid Arrest (11/29/2007 2:04:53 PM)
Yeah, how about a class for bank robbers? Epgah, that would come under "harboring" I think. Illegal aliens really don't have any "rights" in this country. Any "rights" they have would fall under our criminal laws like the right to an attorney etc.

mnottertail -> RE: Seminars to Aid Illegals to Avoid Arrest (11/29/2007 2:08:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: EPGAH Sounds like a great idea for a sting...Invite all the illegals to one place, then nab'em all, rather than having to hunt them down one-by-one! Since it is a seminar FOR ILLEGALS, doesn't that run afoul of a few Federal laws, mostly the ones about sedition and treason? I have to say, this is just mind-blowing, a class FOR criminals, rather than just ABOUT them! look, why waste the time? Just stand outside the fuckin seminar and card them like a highschool dance.........you ain't Kojak

pinksugarsub -> RE: Seminars to Aid Illegals to Avoid Arrest (11/29/2007 2:25:12 PM)
i did sorta wonder how they organize and advertise these seminars....and why INS doesn't just raid them? pinksugarsub

mnottertail -> RE: Seminars to Aid Illegals to Avoid Arrest (11/29/2007 2:29:59 PM)
It's got me wonderin', that's for sure, I can't see why they wouldn't try it and see what the SC says if there is a bitch. MenInBlack

kittinSol -> RE: Seminars to Aid Illegals to Avoid Arrest (11/29/2007 2:30:56 PM)
I have a suggestion: since you are so interested, why don't you investigate yourself and raid these 'seminars' (though something tells me the story hugely inflated the importance of such gatherings) with a couple of friends, some banners and a demonstration licence?

OrionTheWolf -> RE: Seminars to Aid Illegals to Avoid Arrest (11/29/2007 3:26:18 PM)
Since the government cannot legally ask a citizen to produce ID, except under specific circumstances, it is difficult to ask for a Green Card in a public situation such as a seminar. You can hold employers responsible, but neither party is going to do that. They do not conduct stings, for the same reasons they do not build a fence, that money has already been appropriated for. Orion

kittinSol -> RE: Seminars to Aid Illegals to Avoid Arrest (11/29/2007 3:33:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf Since the government cannot legally ask a citizen to produce ID, except under specific circumstances, it is difficult to ask for a Green Card in a public situation such as a seminar. Orion And that's a very good thing too.

popeye1250 -> RE: Seminars to Aid Illegals to Avoid Arrest (11/29/2007 3:42:51 PM)
Yup, that would be called "Harboring" under the U.S. CODE, Title 12. and it's a federal felony offense! So, that means this guy can be arrested at anytime once he committs that crime.

OrionTheWolf -> RE: Seminars to Aid Illegals to Avoid Arrest (11/29/2007 4:00:14 PM)
Yep it is. quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol quote: ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf Since the government cannot legally ask a citizen to produce ID, except under specific circumstances, it is difficult to ask for a Green Card in a public situation such as a seminar. Orion And that's a very good thing too.

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