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Young and daft.....for those who romanticise their yout... - 12/2/2007 6:50:51 AM   
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When I was a lad I had a right, old time; life was grand, there was football, music, women, beer and just enough money in my back pocket to make the most of it. I was atypical in the sense that I was the only one who had an interest in politics among my group of friends, but life was tip-top, all the same.

So, what were your priorities when you were a young lad? Mine were certainly the aforementioned in the first paragraph. Top of the list was football; women, beer and music were pretty much on an even keel in joint second place.

When you were 18ish and you had 30 quid in your back pocket, what would would you have spent it on?

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RE: Young and daft.....for those who romanticise their ... - 12/2/2007 6:58:52 AM   
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We're a lot alike that way, you and I. Rock concerts, a bag of goodies, beer and / or a bottle of something - something, gasoline for the car (I lived in a rural area) so we could go out cruising for parties, girls or a fight...



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RE: Young and daft.....for those who romanticise their ... - 12/2/2007 7:03:12 AM   
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What a fascinating insight.

When I was 16 I started a weekend job which paid £15-00 for all day Saturday and half the day on Sunday. Some retail, some sales, some loading lorries with a forklift truck and tractor, lots of manual labour shifting quarter tonne rocks and 3 x 2 slabs and 50kg bags of cement, in all weathers. Since this was 1984/85 and my family were one of the victims of Thatcherism, I handed all my pay over to keep the house running and my three younger siblings fed and clothed.

The same work continued until I was 19 and finished with college. The pay rose a little, to £30-00 for the weekend, and then I started full time whilst searching for a career, at £100-00 for the week - 6 and a half days. The economic situation not having altered, all my pay went into the home. I was there until 21, because for the hours and the pay it was still better than most other jobs available under the Tories at that time. When I started my career in transport, my pay as a traffic assistant was actually lower - but with a destination which was better.

The point is that the idea that you had £30-00 in your back pocket at that age says a lot about your experiences in the world and likely explains a lot of your viewpoints expressed here.

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RE: Young and daft.....for those who romanticise their ... - 12/2/2007 7:05:15 AM   
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So, what were your priorities when you were a young lad?


I hope it is ok for a lass to answer...

When I was a very young lass I was into books. I read constantly, and then I got into partying with friends. I was always the one that was kinda "odd" because my vocabulary was not the same as my buddies... who often had me do their homework and laughed at me when we would drink, and how they couldn't understand my "college" talk. So I played blonde for several years... and was often treated like an airhead because my hair color and my breast size.... then when people would talk to me they were often astonished I had brains... this lasted until I had my son... and then my party days were over and I started to give a shit about what was going on outside of having a good time... that happened when I was 21.

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When you were 18ish and you had 30 quid in your back pocket, what would would you have spent it on?




Probably gas money, or a bus ticket, I liked to move around.

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RE: Young and daft.....for those who romanticise their ... - 12/2/2007 7:32:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity

We're a lot alike that way, you and I. Rock concerts, a bag of goodies, beer and / or a bottle of something - something, gasoline for the car (I lived in a rural area) so we could go out cruising for parties, girls or a fight.



True enough, Sanity, lads will be lads anywhere.........most young lads in England are like that, it's our youth culture; although I'd have to say that brawling was never my style. I used to box between years 11 and 15, I liked my violence organised and all in the spirit of queensbury's rules!

Weekends were magic. About 15 of us going down the town on a Friday night to the pubs and a club, most times we'd talk our way into ending up at some girls house....getting a taxi back at 9 in the morning, no sleep, running in the house picking up football boots and gear, straight off to play Saturday morning football....finish about 11.30....quick beer in the pub organising the rest of the day.....home, shower, changed and off to watch a professional football match.....band Saturday night, Sunday in the pub having a few beers....the landlord would put strippers on for us to keep us in the pub buying his beer :-), and throw in a Sunday roast for us, too. My parents didn't see me from Friday to Monday! You've got to be happy with that.....not a care in the world.

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RE: Young and daft.....for those who romanticise their ... - 12/2/2007 7:40:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

The point is that the idea that you had £30-00 in your back pocket at that age says a lot about your experiences in the world and likely explains a lot of your viewpoints expressed here.

E


It's a shame you view this thread as an opportunity to antagonise, E. Come on, leave that for the politics threads.

'Sounds like you worked hard, fair enough. 'Same here, I did pretty much anything I could to earn some extra money in those years, so we're not far off. From working in bars, to working in care homes, to selling ice cream and candy floss on the beach, to temping in factories and warehouses, to scrubbing cars and cutting lawns, grass, trees. You can rest in peace that I earned what I spent.

Also, when I was 18, a pint was less than a quid in Durham....probably 75pish....and it was £3.00 to watch my football club, so money stretched a long way further in those days.

'Tell you what though, I enjoyed it all. The working was spot on...the crack with the lads when a business woman came in to have her car cleaned...trying it on with her and getting no change whatsoever!...arsing around on the factory line etc...all of it was good.

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RE: Young and daft.....for those who romanticise their ... - 12/2/2007 7:42:39 AM   
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Oh NG - this is going to age me but seriously - back in the day when I was 18 - I would never of had £30 (in old money) spare in the back of my pocket - not after rent, bills, and all the things that came with being an 'adult'.
 
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p.s NG on edit -  I just read your above post, and I'm not trying to antagonise just being honest - hope you relaise that.  I was living in London and maybe it's just the North/South divide but £30 pound was a lot in 'those days' and I just wouldn't have had it spare.
 
That said I still got to go out and have a great time at Oscars (metal pub) and down the olde leather bottle.  I so never went to 'the cube' - it was too much a posers club.

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RE: Young and daft.....for those who romanticise their ... - 12/2/2007 7:45:05 AM   
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When I was a child and yes I consider 16 a child even when I was one.  I had a job it paid quite well even for today's standards and minimum wage.  I was in school and taking college courses.
In my free time we used to pile into my car and hit the mountains.  Back then and still today there is nothing more exhilirating to me than hiking up the side of a mountain with nature.

So gas for the car would be my number one answer.  I went through a lot about 200,000 miles a year.  I need money and more money.

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RE: Young and daft.....for those who romanticise their ... - 12/2/2007 7:46:53 AM   
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What's 30 quid's equivalence to the dollar?

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RE: Young and daft.....for those who romanticise their ... - 12/2/2007 7:49:58 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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So, what were your priorities when you were a young lad?


I hope it is ok for a lass to answer...



'Course it is, would be good to here an American girl's perspective.

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When I was a very young lass I was into books. I read constantly, and then I got into partying with friends. I was always the one that was kinda "odd" because my vocabulary was not the same as my buddies... who often had me do their homework and laughed at me when we would drink, and how they couldn't understand my "college" talk. So I played blonde for several years... and was often treated like an airhead because my hair color and my breast size.... then when people would talk to me they were often astonished I had brains... this lasted until I had my son... and then my party days were over and I started to give a shit about what was going on outside of having a good time... that happened when I was 21.



Underestimated eh. Brains, diligence, and chest......some people have their values inside out!

Yeah, I can imagine priorities change when children come on the scene!

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Probably gas money, or a bus ticket, I liked to move around.



Yeah, same here, we tended to go all over the country watching bands and football matches...most of the time we didn't pay for the travel, mind you, and jibbed our way 'round the country, but, young and daft!

Where do you go to, then? 'Just a look around see new places etc?

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RE: Young and daft.....for those who romanticise their ... - 12/2/2007 7:50:09 AM   
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Now?  £30 probably is around $60 -  but rates were different back then and I think the dollar was stronger so that's not much of a good answer to help you really.
 
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RE: Young and daft.....for those who romanticise their ... - 12/2/2007 7:53:28 AM   
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Not that I'm in any position to be nostalgic, but when I was 18, I just transferred to a university, was on My own for the first time, and had Daddy's (that being My real one) money in My backpocket. So things were pretty fucking fantastic. Bought My first vibrator too, and My roommates would wonder why My door would always be locked.

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RE: Young and daft.....for those who romanticise their ... - 12/2/2007 7:55:10 AM   
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Where do you go to, then? 'Just a look around see new places etc?

I lived in Oregon, San Jose, Wyoming, Fresno, Merced, and traveled a bunch of other places before I had my wee one (18 to 21). I still love to travel a lot. It was not so much about where I was going, as much as it was just going somewhere new... I was always thrilled with seeing new things. Now my UM is almost an adult I have begun my to travel like that again... nothing like taking off and not knowing what is going to be there when you arrive? Did I mention I am a thrill seeker? It goes with my masochistic side...lol

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RE: Young and daft.....for those who romanticise their ... - 12/2/2007 8:07:49 AM   
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I'll settle for assuming I had $30 in my back pocket and answer this one.
At 18, this meant I was grabbing my 2 best friends off campus and heading into town as it were.  We woud walk to the center of the little town that was near campus, hit the 24 hr Dunkin Donuts first for coffee and snacks (this was a ritual whenever any of us had money). We would walk down to the "adult" store and amuse ourselfs checking out the newest items they had in... trying to figure out what some of them might be for (we were 18, I was already in the lifestyle, they were both pure as driven snow) and then we would waste whatever time and cash we had left on anything that struck our fancy in the stores on the road we walked home.  There was a music store, a confectionary, a bakery, a comic book and used book store (the usual culprit) and toy store that we passed. Then, back on campus, wed collect al the spoils into one friends room since he had a double room and no roommate, and then go back to sleep to enjoy our new aquisitions in the AM.

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RE: Young and daft.....for those who romanticise their ... - 12/2/2007 8:18:31 AM   
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Young and daft is right.  At 18 I had already been married a year and separated.  No... no children; I didn't have to get married at barely 17, I just did.  Unfortunately, I didn't have that carefree time of life where it was all about friends, music, and enjoying my freedom as "a legal adult".  I also didn't have the equivalent of £30 to spend as I wished... at least not then.

I don't regret it, though.  Everything in my life has contributed to me being who I am now, and I kinda like me. 

The sad part is that I don't have any frame of reference to even imagine what I might have spent that kind of money on if my life had been different when I was young. 

The happy part is that I've come full-circle and have a chance to start over... and this time I'm old enough and wise enough to make the most of it. 

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RE: Young and daft.....for those who romanticise their ... - 12/2/2007 8:19:23 AM   
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Ah the lost days of youth. When I was 18 I was in a weird transitional stage, going from an extremely intense closed learning situation to complete unfettered freedom and not doing very well with it all.My priorities then were drugs, drinking & sex which sounds fun but really wasn't. I was terribly shy and would rather have been home with a book but felt I needed to fit in. The money wasn't an issue, I grew up in an overly privileged home and continued to receive an allowance up to my early 20s.I was looking at colleges and trying desperately to decide what I was supposed to be, something I still havent figured out. Really it was all time wasted for me and I wish I could do that bit of my life over again. But only if I could know then what I know now!

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RE: Young and daft.....for those who romanticise their ... - 12/2/2007 8:26:54 AM   
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At age 18 I wasn't as practical about money as I am today.  But I loved buying clothes, and I was skinny (size 5) and looked great in everything .  I would've spent that cash on some new jeans and tops.


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RE: Young and daft.....for those who romanticise their ... - 12/2/2007 8:32:57 AM   
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Books, books and more books. Still do feel that way.

Erasmus said "When I have money I buy books, if I have a little left over I buy food". Always seemed sensible to me.

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RE: Young and daft.....for those who romanticise their ... - 12/2/2007 8:34:52 AM   
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At age 18 I wasn't as practical about money as I am today.  But I loved buying clothes, and I was skinny (size 5) and looked great in everything .  I would've spent that cash on some new jeans and tops.



That is what boyfriends were for...lol

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RE: Young and daft.....for those who romanticise their ... - 12/2/2007 8:47:16 AM   
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The legal age for going into a bar was 19 here (if you were a male) and it was the same for buying alcoholic beverages in stores, so we had several different plans that we used to get whatever we wanted. False ID cards, someone among us who looked old, certain stores that were loose on the rule... it was like a game. We'd steal it from a certain delivery truck until the driver caught us, and told us we'd have to leave him something good in the cab in return if we wanted him to leave the back unlocked while he was in the store (which we did).

Sometimes we'd head out to the boonies where there were large keggar parties by lakes or rivers with bonfires to see by and to gather around. The cops often showed up after everybody was good and drunk though, scattering everyone and stealing our beer, arresting certain ones... and so we were always trying to find better places - someone's home, or whatever.

American football or baseball was something that was occasionally played but we didn't organize to do it, games erupted spontaneously. We didn't even know that European football existed... the area was rural like I said, so it wasn't convenient to form regular teams except for school sports during only a part of the year.

I hitch-hiked around the USA while young, turned 16 in New Orleans. I joined the Army at 17 and went to Europe and Panama, a few other places. Got in a fight in Edinburgh once, some British soldiers were mad because the Scottish women really fell for us hard. We had pocket money, and American men have a habit of being more... romantic, getting on their knees and saying things like, baby baby, I love you baby, please give me a kiss while the Brits seemed to be a lot rougher with them than that. Or that's what seemed to be the case.

I read a lot, loved science fiction and just plain fiction, and history and science, read the news every day. I worked in a sheet metal shop when I was a teen, usually had money. Drank and otherwise partied far too much, even got addicted. Quit all that though, when I became a father later. I don't know what queensbury's rules are, and we were far from organized. We fought because of the testosterone, and had an unspoken code that wouldn't let us go too far, usually. That was a different time...

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True enough, Sanity, lads will be lads anywhere.........most young lads in England are like that, it's our youth culture; although I'd have to say that brawling was never my style. I used to box between years 11 and 15, I liked my violence organised and all in the spirit of queensbury's rules!

Weekends were magic. About 15 of us going down the town on a Friday night to the pubs and a club, most times we'd talk our way into ending up at some girls house....getting a taxi back at 9 in the morning, no sleep, running in the house picking up football boots and gear, straight off to play Saturday morning football....finish about 11.30....quick beer in the pub organising the rest of the day.....home, shower, changed and off to watch a professional football match.....band Saturday night, Sunday in the pub having a few beers....the landlord would put strippers on for us to keep us in the pub buying his beer :-), and throw in a Sunday roast for us, too. My parents didn't see me from Friday to Monday! You've got to be happy with that.....not a care in the world.


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