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Canes...and I don't mean the Candy ones. - 12/3/2007 2:08:25 PM

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I love riding crops and now hubby wants to try canes. I am not what would be considered a serious pain slut, so I wouldn't want really nasty ones. Any favorites?

Thanks for sharing!

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RE: Canes...and I don't mean the Candy ones. - 12/4/2007 10:18:17 AM

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The master's touch of the tool is the answer

the tool is useless without it

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RE: Canes...and I don't mean the Candy ones. - 12/4/2007 10:38:01 AM

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Thanks for replying, but can you elaborate? He's good with his tools, but we haven't tried canes yet. Any suggestions?

Can I get some help here peeps? Who uses canes? Can you point me to a favorite site that has good ones to start out with?

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RE: Canes...and I don't mean the Candy ones. - 12/4/2007 11:31:45 AM

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They come in millimeter thickness. I have found the thinner, 9 or 10 mm to whippy and harder to control. I would suggest 11mm.

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RE: Canes...and I don't mean the Candy ones. - 12/4/2007 11:35:29 AM

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quote:

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They come in millimeter thickness. I have found the thinner, 9 or 10 mm to whippy and harder to control. I would suggest 11mm.

Jeff

How does a 10mm feel? I don't like really painful...I like stingy, and I don't want blood drawn.

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RE: Canes...and I don't mean the Candy ones. - 12/4/2007 12:04:03 PM

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I have never felt one.......lol.... it SEEMED stingy......and I don't swing it like a flogger

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RE: Canes...and I don't mean the Candy ones. - 12/4/2007 12:06:01 PM

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hmmm...i like hands, belts, slappers, crops...anything but the cane!!! i especially hate the loop cane...so...naturally it is the one He chooses for punishment...because it hurts and because He loves to see my tears...

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RE: Canes...and I don't mean the Candy ones. - 12/4/2007 3:34:13 PM

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I like rattan or bamboo better than the lexan canes, which have no give. Also, if I am the one weilding them, lexan feels dead, rather than following through with my swing and Master finds the same thing. As to no drawing blood, that depends far more on how the tool is used and what your skin is like, than what the cane is made from. You may wish to try experimenting with it lightly and playfully before it is used in a real scene, to see how you react to caning. I love it, but can't always take much of the cane. I have a friend who cannot be hit with a cane at all unless she wants huge blood-blister and bruise welts and I personally just end up with pretty red and white stripes. Others don't mark much at all.

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RE: Canes...and I don't mean the Candy ones. - 12/4/2007 3:41:21 PM

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quote:

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I love riding crops and now hubby wants to try canes. I am not what would be considered a serious pain slut, so I wouldn't want really nasty ones. Any favorites?

Thanks for sharing!

Hey g, I was petrified of canes forever. This past summer I met someone from here who was an expert in canes and I tried it out. It was awesome, it was a thing flexible bamboo one, very cool. I am not a pain slut either, and it was all in the wrist action...

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RE: Canes...and I don't mean the Candy ones. - 12/5/2007 4:41:25 AM

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Canes are one of those toys that can deliver a very wide range of sensation. From a light tap to a cut you open whallop.

Some generalities:

Thin canes are stingier than thick ones.
Flexible canes sting, stiffer ones thud
Thin canes wrap, thick ones don't wrap much at all
The drum solo on In-A-Gadda_Da-Vida is fantastic to cane to

On materials:

Rattan - The best all around material. Thin and flexible or Thick and stiff rattan comes in many different lengths and thicknesses to suit your style. Rattan has no nodes so the surface is quite smooth. Rattan does not splinter when it breaks and is less likely to leave any slivers in the skin. Rattan is highly porous and requires an occasional moistening to keep it from becoming brittle. Jer's canes leaves the tips of his canes uncoated so you can dip them is some water to do this. If your canes are completely sealed the drying process is slowed but you might consider scraping off the top 1/4" so you can hydrate them.

Bamboo - Stiffer than Rattan with distinct raised nodes along the entire length. Bamboo splinters when broken and can easily leave splinters in the skin.

Lexan or other polycarbonate or acrylic rods - Great smooth surface and good flexibility. Thin rods are stingy but still more thuddy than Rattan due to the higher density of the material. These canes will crack rather than splinter. The smooth surface is easy to clean and disinfect and is suitable for insertion.

Carbon, Kevlar, Graphite etc... - Great flexibility and stiffness. If you do break one the splintering is extreme. The infamous "Evil Sticks" are a great example of how even the smallest of canes can pack a lot of pain.

Wood - Dowel rods in ash, maple, birch or poplar are often used for canes. Thin wood canes are stingy but are prone to breakage. Thick wood canes deliver a lot of thud due to the high density. You can do some very unique things with wood canes if you have a lathe to turn your own. Tapers, undulating shapes etc.

Any thin, roundish material can be made into a good cane. Experiment with which ones you like best.

Our favorites are Jer's Canes and The Evil Sticks

As has already been said its really all about who is holding the tool and how they use it.

Domino

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RE: Canes...and I don't mean the Candy ones. - 12/5/2007 6:09:34 AM

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I think you might find this web site helpful. They have some great spanking toys and a nice paper on "The Art of Caning"
Good luck to you, done right I am sure you will find it awesome.
www.cane-iac.com

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RE: Canes...and I don't mean the Candy ones. - 12/5/2007 11:08:07 AM

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Thank you everyone for the advice. I think I want to know more about Lexar canes.

Can anyone share their first hand experience with them?

Bottoms, how does it feel on your bottom?

Tops, how do you work your bottom's bottom?

Thanks, from the bottom of my heart, my bottom bottom thanks you too.

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RE: Canes...and I don't mean the Candy ones. - 12/5/2007 12:23:33 PM

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Dear gorgeous1, Ladies and Gentlemen,

Taboo4Two did a fine write up on canes and rods matterials.

As for your question about Lexar --IF I am not mistaken, you might be referring to Lexan, which is a clear plastic like matterial made from chemicals which often replace glass as to prevent shattering, e.g. bullet proof payne and or shield for riot police, etc. Lexan can also be in any colors as well--not just clear.

Lexan can be molded into many shapes, to include diameter shafts. House window blinds the plastic rod that opens and closes them and the like; make good canes for use in S&M and or BDSM.

Depending on the diameter, the sting or thud factor will be similiar to any type of rod or cane, regardless if man-made materials or natural. Most man-made materials, like Lexan are more stout and do not 'give' as much as a natural fiber such as rattan, birch, yew, bamboo. So, they will not give with the body and would be very easy to cause deep bruises as it doesn't give but the skin must give all upon impact; whereas rattan would bend and give a bit on impact so its 'living' with your body and springs away from your body mass.

The difference would be Lexan would be like a pillar and rattan like a branch.

Lexan would hit upon impact and travel through into the hip like a dull ache whereas a rattan of the same diameter and length, with the same identical stroke would be more of a momentary sting and radiates the discomfort out and away from the impact site and absorbs. Example, Lexan would be a rock in a pond and you might get big ripples but 5 rings of rippling. Rattan dropped like Lextan would be small ripples but might get 10 rings.

Lexan can come plain shaft, it can also come with a 'twist' in it, much like a old Coke bottle twist. It will add a more bitting edge to the impact. You can perhaps use a #2 pencil and wrap a twist wire, the ones used on trash bags, bread loaf bags or to tie your produce at the grocery store. If you have some play dough, cookie dough or something that will leave an impression, you can press the pencil with wrapped wire in a barbershop pole twist--and see that it edges beyond the whole shaft. Not much different than a fingernail poking straight on but, slightly duller as most twisted Lexan shafts are smooth--not sharp.

Hopefully this will help.

I will recommend canes created and provided by www-CANE-IAC.com -- I find the gentleman keen on the quality of canes and to promote safe uses of all cane and or rod products.

Just some thoughts.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs

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RE: Canes...and I don't mean the Candy ones. - 12/5/2007 12:46:16 PM

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Lady Hugs, thank you! I think I get it now. I think I might have changed my mind now. Maybe rattan would be better.

My husband has used the riding crop as a cane before and I liked it.

My favorite impact toys are a slapper he bought from a tack shop, a leather leash, and ohhhhh....don't even get me started on a wicked drumbeat with two riding crops...hubby used to play the Marimba, and he likes to play a nice little beat on my butt.

So, Lexan is what those annoying ass miniblind rods are made of! I must have a dozen broken ones tossed in the garage!

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RE: Canes...and I don't mean the Candy ones. - 12/5/2007 12:51:31 PM

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Dear gorgeous1, Ladies and Gentlemen;

I like using as little hurt/pain as possible to get the same reaction.

If your Master uses the 'shaft' part of the riding crop, if standard length it can be an 'instant' cane with texture.

My favorite techniques are 'Tipping' which if you can visualize a #2 Pencil in between your fingers and twiddle it and let the eraser bounce on the desk/table freely. This is the most gentle of grips of a cane, which is explained further in a variety of sites, under Google inquiry: Lady Hugs Caning and or www.CANE-IAC.com, which has illustrations--something rarely afforded and might make a bit clearer.

If you like gentle sensations with surprising results--TIPPING on the nipples with two matching canes at matching rythmns--it is a lovely sensation; If you do not have canes--take two unsharpened #2 pencils and with the unsharpened end--tap on top of the nipples. With a loose grip and wood allowed to let energy flow--they will work. Plastic stirs (bar stirs for drinks that are like drinking straw length) work well as an impromptu tool for TIPPING on the nipples.

I also like to warm up a bottom/submissive/slave with a 'scoop stroke' which is a gentle rounded stroke on the bottom, much like a soft spank but--with a cane, rather than a hand and or paddle.

Crops and riding whips that have lost their snapper or cracker; can be turned into canes as well. Old canes used to be made from whale bone but, now Lexan and other giving plastic materials are used. The covering can give a sensation/texture play when dragged over warmed and sensitive skin--Old fishing rods and CB antennas work also. I like aluminum arrow shafts the most as it vibrates so people can see what I speak about in presentations and or demonstrations.

I would like to add--the tools used are usually not the problem. It is the person holding them.
Thin canes look fragile but, they do hurt and hurt deeply when used as a baseball bat or such.
It can never be stressed enough to 'communicate' with the TOP/Dominant/MASTER/MISTRESS what you can handle and how much and where.

Just some thoughts.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs

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RE: Canes...and I don't mean the Candy ones. - 12/5/2007 1:02:27 PM

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Dear gorgeous1,

I highly recommend taking a peek at The Art and Styles of Caning; on www.CANE-IAC.com, where there are illustrations.

I think he will understand percussion and energy travel in skin and will be able to handle the Florentine style of caning and perhaps hold 4 canes at once, 2 in each hand which I have done and demonstrated--to have many sensations out of 4 canes. Just rolling the wrists will control the sequence of the canes hitting your skin.

He may wish to read on body position as to make it as comfortable on you as possible. I have explained how position works also.

I think you will have a wonderful experience with canes.

If tight with funds--due to life in general; I recommend saving for good rattan canes and not buy cheaply made products. You can use oak dowels at the hardware store and take a sponge like fingernail file (ones used for manicures/pedicures that are little blocks with different grit of emory material) and sand it from burrs and knots. You can sand one end round and leave the other flat. Round side is softer than squared off for tipping. I have rattan canes that are over 20 years old and no problems to date. And, I use them often but, I got good rattan canes.

Some fun can be had with two large rolls of wrapping paper. They can be a lot of fun and is a form of caning. Those long rubbery tubes found for pools and in football stands--they are a lot of fun also. This may help take the edge off or some worry off of being caned.

Just some thoughts.

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Lady Hugs

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RE: Canes...and I don't mean the Candy ones. - 12/5/2007 1:45:44 PM

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Once again, thank you for the great advice Lady Hugs! I will definitely bookmark the articles you suggested for hubby to read.

We have been together and playing for 11 years- both started out as novices. We have "practice sessions" where he will practice and we both approach it in a clinical scientific way with lots of feedback. We don't like to spoil a scene with such things, so we do "dry runs". For instance, we bought a NASTY flogger with really thick hard rubber tails...THAT bad boy never made it past the "dry run".

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RE: Canes...and I don't mean the Candy ones. - 12/5/2007 3:39:58 PM

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If you honestly hate pain, then I suggest you go #8 rattan and larger. The thicker sizes get more thuddy, and are less likely to open your butt up like a rotten peach. Absolutely stay away from things like fiberglas or carbon laminate fishing rod cores. You would't be able to stand looking at them, much less the "line of fire" they leave across your skin.

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RE: Canes...and I don't mean the Candy ones. - 12/5/2007 5:21:39 PM

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i thought i would share a bottom's view of caning!

i adore being caned! my favorite is rattan - not sure of the mm of thickness but the thinner rather than thicker ones do it for me!

Canes like that are extremely stingy, and my body processes a cane unlike any other implement. one good solid whip of the cane takes my body several seconds to process...i like to call canes the "gift that keeps on giving" as the pain radiates out.

Therefore, bursts of 2 or 3 quick strokes of the cane during a caning push this bottom toward a lovely endorphine rush! Anything more than a few quick strokes at a time make it difficult for me to process the pain effectively. My body requires some time to absorb and process the strokes.

technique, timing, and finesse is important - i've had Tops cane me and leave nice even red stripes down my ass and thighs...other Tops have left cane "tip" marks haphazardly on my butt and even split my skin. As it's winter for us here in the US, i find it important to drink plenty of water and to use moisturizers on my skin (to keep it from getting dry..which leads to splitting of the skin).

If you like stingy...i think you'd like caning!

(by the way, one of my new favorites is being single tailed; which, unlike the cane, i love fast and furious over my butt, back, and thighs! oooooo la la!!! Talk about STING! YUM!)

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RE: Canes...and I don't mean the Candy ones. - 12/6/2007 12:25:41 PM

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Thanks for the bottom's perspective, bipolar and good girl! I like stingy, and I agree completely...timing is everything. A good warmup and then when the harder strikes come, switching it up. I like getting a good smack that makes me whimper and almost cry "Stop!" and then a soft caress from his hand or the fuzzy paddle, then another one or two good swats again. I love how he knows me so well that he always knows exactly when I have had enough. We DO have a safe word (it's swordfish) but I have never had to use it in almost 11 years. He can just tell by my body language.

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