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ORIGINAL: breatheasone

Yeah I'm with you...I HATE saying words like "pussy"  "cock" and stuff like that...but I do it because its the language of the land so to speak....

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

I don't view what it is that we do as dark and twisted. It isn't that my mind prevents me from seeing it in its true light. I do see it in the true light. Just as some people love tabasco sauce on everything including scrambled eggs, others won't eat the least bit of spicy food.

I can dream of being tightly bound and used until I cry from catharsis and exhaustion. I can also dream of a plate of semi-boned quail served at a Girasol in Manhattan. They are both simply tastes that appeal to me.

And those who take pride in being "darker and more devious" I think are pretty immature.

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ORIGINAL: SirJohnMandevill

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ORIGINAL: breatheasone

Yeah I'm with you...I HATE saying words like "pussy"  "cock" and stuff like that...but I do it because its the language of the land so to speak....

This thread fascinates me. I never realized there are (apparently) quite a few subs with this mindset.

My former sub still has this problem when we talk as friends. Even when she wrote to another sub whom I had suggested contact her for her impressions of me, she used euphemisms.

Live and loin, I guess!

Les (Purveyor of Fine, Handcrafted Kink) 

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ORIGINAL: adoracat

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ORIGINAL: SirJohnMandevill

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ORIGINAL: breatheasone

Yeah I'm with you...I HATE saying words like "pussy"  "cock" and stuff like that...but I do it because its the language of the land so to speak....

This thread fascinates me. I never realized there are (apparently) quite a few subs with this mindset.

My former sub still has this problem when we talk as friends. Even when she wrote to another sub whom I had suggested contact her for her impressions of me, she used euphemisms.

Live and loin, I guess!

Les (Purveyor of Fine, Handcrafted Kink) 

oh gods, its true.  there is a wonderful movie called "Boys On The Side".  in one scene, one of the characters tells the other one to say the dreaded "c-word"  she finally does..and the first woman tells her "you didnt say it! you breathed it!"

its a hard thing to do.  my mama brought me up to NOT talk like a sailor (especially relavant because my father is retired navy) and wanted me to be ladylike and yet submissive at the same time.  i manage nicely for the most part.  at the same time, Daddy wants me to tell him what i want/need, in the bluntest terms possible...and i blush and stammer and he finally tells me to close my eyes and whisper in his ear, which i can still barely manage.

kitten, who wasnt allowed to cum till she agreed she was Daddy's well-beloved cunt

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

I don't view what it is that we do as dark and twisted. It isn't that my mind prevents me from seeing it in its true light. I do see it in the true light. Just as some people love tabasco sauce on everything including scrambled eggs, others won't eat the least bit of spicy food.

I can dream of being tightly bound and used until I cry from catharsis and exhaustion. I can also dream of a plate of semi-boned quail served at a Girasol in Manhattan. They are both simply tastes that appeal to me.

And those who take pride in being "darker and more devious" I think are pretty immature.

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ORIGINAL: exogenous

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

I don't view what it is that we do as dark and twisted. It isn't that my mind prevents me from seeing it in its true light. I do see it in the true light. Just as some people love tabasco sauce on everything including scrambled eggs, others won't eat the least bit of spicy food.

I can dream of being tightly bound and used until I cry from catharsis and exhaustion. I can also dream of a plate of semi-boned quail served at a Girasol in Manhattan. They are both simply tastes that appeal to me.

And those who take pride in being "darker and more devious" I think are pretty immature.

I don't quite get this statement (bolded). In what way is it immature to be proud of being dark and twisted (the OP did not write "devious"). 

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I also don't think he was using 'dark' and 'twisted' in a negative sense more of a 'not socially accepted' sense.

 
I understand this statement. I admit that I still have some hang-ups about desiring things that may be viewed as taboo, all the while yearning to fulfill them. I have no trouble with participation, just trouble in speaking of those certain things. With my former Dom, he loved the way I blushed and squirmed about vocalizing my thoughts and feelings about more intense types of play or scenes. I think that made it more appreciated, though, on both our parts. For me it was a humiliation factor which was a struggle but, in turn, very freeing. For him it was a trust factor, in that I was able to share those supposed "naughty secrets".
 
Regarding revealing my wants, desires, and fantasies, it was much easier for me to write them and share them in that manner, first. Yet, I still tended to squirm when he wanted to discuss such things after he'd read them, especially when he had me read my prose out loud to him.