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Captive Scenario Questions - 12/9/2007 2:29:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Alright ladies, I have a few serious questions about something me and my mistress are planning for a long weekend.

Now we're planning a bit of a scenario, an interrogation type event. The goals are set for both of us, for her she must somehow find a way to break me and get me to divulge information about the locations of two items which I will have hid around her house. If she manages to get both items, eitehr by gaining info from me or even finding them on her own, she wins.

My goals are of course, to resist whatever physical and psychological torments she has in mind and to not give her information about the item's location, I also have the ability to reapply any psych wartfare against her as a captive, including false information and attempting to incapacitate her. An alternative goal is that I also have the ability to attempt escape, if I manage to get free I must then reach a certian area where there will be a specified marker,when I reach the marker it counts as escape. Should I resist interrogation for the time alloted or sucssed in escaping, I win.

This stems form me wanting to be a SERE Specialist in the Air Force, so I figured a little bit of resistance training wouldent be so bad while still a civilian, consider it a bit of a primer.

There are a couple rules we've come up with so far of course. She can hurt but she cannot go so far to induce an injury. Also she cannot use a specific fear against me, the reason for this being that since the instructors for the "real" thing wouldent know about it so why would she? Also there cant be damange to personal property, like she cant go and take a baseball bat to my car or let her cats devour my nikes or whatever else like that in an attempt to get me to talk.

Now this is still a little bit of play so we dont have to go too far, but there are a few things i've been trying to figure out in the planning that I have to admit i'm becoming slightly stumped on, which is I need a few more minds thinking about it.

For one, what do we do about bathroom use? I mean I doubt having to take a shit will be very safe or non-messy when i'm "restrained" so I need some help with that.

I prolly have some more issues but really thats the one thats on my mind right now.

< Message edited by Rumtiger -- 12/9/2007 2:32:02 AM >

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RE: Captive Scenario Questions - 12/9/2007 2:32:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Why can't she just handcuff you and accompany you to the bathroom like one would a prisoner?

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RE: Captive Scenario Questions - 12/9/2007 2:34:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		I guess she could, but keep in mind while handcuffed I can still make an attempt to escape and anything else, so I guess it depends if she wants to take that risk.

of course I guess it could also depend on how bad I gotta go.

if you put yourself in her position, try to think "captive" not "sub". I'm going to attempt to foil, decieve and maybe even attack her at every opportunity present to me, the rules and well...procedures for things should reflect this.

and if not well, I guess there can be a bit of an honor system, but it feels like a bit of a cop out for me.

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RE: Captive Scenario Questions - 12/9/2007 2:41:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't know if handcuffs would work since you have the option to 'incapacitate her'.

You could use an enema prior to the weekend (which should keep your bowels cleaned for at least a full day perhaps two) and she could always permit you to urinate in a jug or something then pour it down the toilet.

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RE: Captive Scenario Questions - 12/9/2007 2:48:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		I kinda thought of something similar as preperation, taking an immodium should help a bit with dueces, and its alot more preferable to an enema (prolly need it the meds anyway).

However I would still need a backup plan and procedure just in case. She will likely try to use food deprivation on me including sleep dep and open air exposure. So I dunno if I have to worry about new stuff coming out.

And of course theres always the urine thing...I guess the jug idea could work, but i'd like some more ideas as well. Just to keep the options open.


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RE: Captive Scenario Questions - 12/9/2007 2:53:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		A studded cock leash with the handcuffs should deter any thoughts of escape

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RE: Captive Scenario Questions - 12/9/2007 2:55:10 AM   
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RE: Captive Scenario Questions - 12/9/2007 3:51:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		I see it this way. She can take you to the bathroom just as one would a prisoner, restrained however she deems fit. And you can try to escape while you are being escorted, if you'd like.
But if you do, you'd damn well better succeed, because she ain't gonna untie you to let you go potty again.


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RE: Captive Scenario Questions - 12/9/2007 4:20:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		yeah I know...thats a bit obvious

which is why I'm asking if there where any ideas for any other alternatives, what methods would YOU use if you where in the same position that my domme would be.

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RE: Captive Scenario Questions - 12/9/2007 10:36:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hmmmm.... take you to a bathroom?  Giving you the opportunity to overpower her and escape?  I don't think so.  Sounds like a good diaper time to me.  Add humilation to the mix and see how long you tolerate it.  Hell... I would make you drink water and offer you food constantly throughout the weekend.  See how long you want to sit in that diaper.
 
If she is good at administering pain, this interrogation scene could end faster than you think it will.  It will all come down to how seriously she takes it.  If it's a game, then it could be a long weekend.  If it is a conquest for her, you could be singing a song sooner than you think.  Electro torture comes to mind...... does she own a cattle prod?  <grin>
 
You are lucky SHE is the one you have set this up with.  Otherwise you could be in for an interesting time.  If you honestly think this little game will help prepare you for the military, think again.... unless she is into things like water boarding.

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RE: Captive Scenario Questions - 12/9/2007 10:53:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am thinking a true interogation what would the captor do ? would they give you a bathroom break in the midst of a torture interogation ? would they say you have to go to the bathroom then go .I have seen forced enemas used , cathiders ,or if your not medic trained  used a diaper . or go  in your pants , i bet after a while the information would flow freely if your wearing your own filth .How real and evil do you want it to be ?if you think she is or can be overpowered easy then i bet she could also gather some kinky pals to help in this .
Dream makes some very good points .as do the other posters  here . But you could also  do a forced fasting for a couple days  liquid type diet will also clean you out with no need to worry about launching any submarines .

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RE: Captive Scenario Questions - 12/9/2007 5:07:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Frankly, i think a toilet seems much too civilized for a good captive torture scenario 
Hands cuffed in front, connected tightly to a waist belt. Feet cuffed on a short hobble chain, possibly with a second chain going up to the waist belt to keep you bent over. Squat over a bucket. If you've had a particularly messy dump, cleanup could be done with a hose, toilet brush, or whatever (or not).
If you're bound to a chair, standing, or whatever, she could hold and point you into a bucket or jug of some sort- having somebody else hold you while you try to pee can be intimidating.
Especially if she decides to whip it up towards your face in mid-stream
But, for liquid evacuation, it really wouldn't require you to be freed at all. It would be awkward if you're bound in a normal chair, but i'd want a split-leg chair for a scene like that anyway.
Dommes aren't the only ones who think about this sort of thing, yanno

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RE: Captive Scenario Questions - 12/9/2007 5:15:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		civilized maybe...but I sure wouldn't back away from the challenge because you "might" overcome me.  Trust me, someone that knows you and uses the right tools can bring you to your knees quite easily. 

I'm not sure I agree severe pain is the best way to get the information, especially for a masochist or someone used to receiving severe pain.  Sex and denial would get me talking quite a bit quicker personally.  Treating me kindly rather than mistreating me would as well.

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RE: Captive Scenario Questions - 12/9/2007 5:37:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Rumtiger

For one, what do we do about bathroom use? I mean I doubt having to take a shit will be very safe or non-messy when i'm "restrained" so I need some help with that.


Well, my first thought and comment on this is that forcing someone to break bathroom training is sometimes a very good tool in breaking down their will over time.  So having you do this messily and restrained may be perfect for her, depending on what course of action she has planned.

Another is that it's entirely possible to do hobbled, it just takes a while to get to the toilet.  Depending on how your hands are restrained you may or may not be able to clean yourself.  This lends her the additional tool of hosing you down afterwards, either in the tub or in the yard dependent on your privacy level at her house.  Or keeping you dirty afterwards...

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RE: Captive Scenario Questions - 12/9/2007 6:04:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Why not just strap and bind subject to a toilet and do the whole interogation there  potty problem solved .Now all you have to worry about is curing the numb butt ,oooh well better give up that info quick before the thighs and feet grow numb too .

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RE: Captive Scenario Questions - 12/9/2007 6:08:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		how can you have such a part in engineering your own fantasy and still take pleasure in it?
like saying you want to be raped, then assisting in the arrangment of a "perforance" of your fantasy?

takes all the authenticity out of it.         


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RE: Captive Scenario Questions - 12/9/2007 8:14:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		who said it was my fantasy?

It's really more of a game or an exersize. Just to see if possible to try it, like I said before, dont think of it as play with a domme and sub.

As for methods used, I'm sure she'll be using physch along with physical, I dont know nor am I supposed to know.

As for how serious she's going to be about it, I guess thats up to her, I know i'll be serious about escaping and resisting. 

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RE: Captive Scenario Questions - 12/9/2007 8:53:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is an interrogation scene with potty breaks??? What??? Frankly I just used the nice little humiliation of using a bucket or diapering said subjct.

A good long enema cleaning befoire hand works as well. If it's truly an all out interrogation scene then you'll only be getting bread and water anyway so there won't be much there to be evacuated to begin with right? I think perhaps worrying more about how you're going to be able to urinate after being kept well hydrated during the interrogation would be much more useful. Although a full bladder can be quite a useful interrogation tool! Just my thoughts.

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RE: Captive Scenario Questions - 12/9/2007 8:54:47 PM   
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quote:

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This is an interrogation scene with potty breaks??? What???


thats why i'm asking people....

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RE: Captive Scenario Questions - 12/9/2007 11:45:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		oh yeah, and thank you to everyone who helped me a bit, i'm sure with this little brainstorm we'll be able to come up with a final solution.

I'll make sure to post back here if I run into any other snags.

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